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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:55 PM ET
Nick Cousins, Taylor Leier, Brandon Alderson...mostly 3rd liner/depth types. Leier really came on his last two years in junior. They got a couple kids this year in the draft, Nicolas Aube-Kubel a speedy and skilled little guy and Oskar Lindblom, who they feel is a steal for thee 5th round. Unsure if any are ready to step in yet

Fortunately, they still have Couturier & Schenn who are still very young, as well as Simmonds and Voracek who are still under 26. I'd like to see a bit of shuffling up front, to improve the 5 on 5 play. The only two lines that really did OK at 5 on 5 were Giroux's and Couturier's ( and the latter's is based as much on usage as it is on performance)

- Jsaquella

Still pisses me off Couturier fell to you guys at 8, what a frankin steal. Every time I read a trade rumor with him in it I laugh, why would the Flyers be that dumb? haha
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:55 PM ET
akeson. jason akeson. middle name: art ross. prepare for the fury.
- hammarby31

Akeson had a snipe in game 7 last year...for that I hate him already
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:56 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRVXzQ3YuNM
- Crimsoninja

Wow. He can go (frank) himself with a rake.

I understand everything now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:56 PM ET
Seems like it's a common thread here...was Chelios cheap or something? Or just good?

Or both?

- Giroux_Is_God


He was nasty. I disliked him because he was a great player, but chippy. His assault on Brian Propp turned it to hatred
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Not really. All our young forwards are on the team already. The closest player that fits your description is Akeson I'd say.

However, that could change quickly with this Hayes saga

- Giroux_Is_God

I don't know if its me but this Hayes kid comes off as a douche. Chicago is a great organization. It seems like he won't sign because he wants a guaranteed top 9 role. Why don't you try and earn it first kid.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Still pisses me off Couturier fell to you guys at 8, what a frankin steal. Every time I read a trade rumor with him in it I laugh, why would the Flyers be that dumb? haha
- TPC

Believe me we say the same thing.

Both about him falling and his name in rumors
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Akeson had a snipe in game 7 last year...for that I hate him already
- TPC


good. let the hate flow through you.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Wow. He can go (frank) himself with a rake.

I understand everything now.

- Giroux_Is_God


you've never seen or been aware of this incident until now?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:58 PM ET
I don't know if its me but this Hayes kid comes off as a douche. Chicago is a great organization. It seems like he won't sign because he wants a guaranteed top 9 role. Why don't you try and earn it first kid.
- TPC

You're completely right and your logic is valid. Some see it that way.

Personally I want the flyers to go after the kid. See if he can put his money where his mouth is
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:58 PM ET
I don't know if its me but this Hayes kid comes off as a douche. Chicago is a great organization. It seems like he won't sign because he wants a guaranteed top 9 role. Why don't you try and earn it first kid.
- TPC


i agree...but he's a kid still. he can outgrow being a douche.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:58 PM ET
you've never seen or been aware of this incident until now?
- hammarby31

Honestly, no
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
Still pisses me off Couturier fell to you guys at 8, what a frankin steal. Every time I read a trade rumor with him in it I laugh, why would the Flyers be that dumb? haha
- TPC


There's some pissed they didn't take Dougie Hamilton...I get that to some extent, because he's gonna be a beast. But Couturier had 39 points being used in such a defense first role, it's ridiculous.

I saw an analysis on his usage and there was nobody getting the amount of minutes he got, with such a disproportionate amount of defensive and neutral zone starts, in the NHL.

They need to start letting him play more on the PP and in a more offensive role. I really think he could be a Bergeron type guy
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
Wow. He can go (frank) himself with a rake.

I understand everything now.

- Giroux_Is_God

Im sure you've seen the video of Hextall leaving the crease and attacking him.
that was why.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
Honestly, no
- Giroux_Is_God


so then you haven't seen the hextall response at the end of the game then either.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 10:00 PM ET
I don't know if its me but this Hayes kid comes off as a douche. Chicago is a great organization. It seems like he won't sign because he wants a guaranteed top 9 role. Why don't you try and earn it first kid.
- TPC


Yeah, but he's a big, skilled kid who will have a reasonable cap hit(with deferrable bonuses) for 3 years
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:00 PM ET
You're completely right and your logic is valid. Some see it that way.

Personally I want the flyers to go after the kid. See if he can put his money where his mouth is

- Giroux_Is_God

I mean no doubt. If you can add his skill level to your depth you do it. Just the kid rubs me the wrong way, but if the Rangers signed him I wouldn't hate it haha
J-Zing92
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lansdale, PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jul 26 @ 10:01 PM ET
I was lucky enough to have my first game be the Jiri Dopita 4 goal game, my mother got me tickets for my 16th birthday. I've always had a soft spot for dopy since
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:01 PM ET
i agree...but he's a kid still. he can outgrow being a douche.
- hammarby31

Agreed
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:01 PM ET
so then you haven't seen the hextall response at the end of the game then either.
- hammarby31

end of the series you mean
pretty sure it was a few games later
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:02 PM ET
I was lucky enough to have my first game be the Jiri Dopita 4 goal game, my mother got me tickets for my 16th birthday. I've always had a soft spot for dopy since
- J-Zing92

Jiri "the best player not playing in the NHL" Dopita
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:03 PM ET
good. let the hate flow through you.
- hammarby31


The dumbest things pisses me off haha. Him high sticking Hagelin in game 1 that led to 2 straight powerplay goals gave me high hopes for the kid
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:04 PM ET
Yeah, but he's a big, skilled kid who will have a reasonable cap hit(with deferrable bonuses) for 3 years
- Jsaquella

Yea you are right. Any organization would be dumb not to bring him in.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:04 PM ET
end of the series you mean
pretty sure it was a few games later

- Crimsoninja


yes. both.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:05 PM ET
Honestly, no
- Giroux_Is_God

By the way I am trying to get my friends to check out Supernatural. None will bite so far.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:05 PM ET
The dumbest things pisses me off haha. Him high sticking Hagelin in game 1 that led to 2 straight powerplay goals gave me high hopes for the kid
- TPC


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