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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
The 'mucil mixes well with Cuervo 1800.
- tangent_man

Pls don't mix drugs with alc ty
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:32 PM ET
The 'mucil mixes well with Cuervo 1800.
- tangent_man


Cuervomucil
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
http://instagram.com/p/q7H7y2mQ9B/?modal=true
monty burns
Location: wake forest, NC
Joined: 10.18.2005

Jul 26 @ 8:47 PM ET
nice thread and memories from everyone. I guess i'm the old coot here, my first memory was reading about their first 2 games (Oct. 1967) in the Inquirer, both loses on the west coast. the short column covered both games since they were out west and no one really knew who they were.
my first live game was their 2nd home game on 10-22-67 against the california golden seals, it was a 5-2 victory and our seats cost $2.00 in the upper deck behind the goal. the spectrum, with its partially assembled scoreboard was beautiful. it was the neatest place an 11 year old had ever been to.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:47 PM ET
It's a shame this thread got like 100 comments.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:51 PM ET
It's a shame this thread got like 100 comments.
- Giroux_Is_God


I can fix that.


Andrew MacDonald is a 7th defenseman. Vinny Lecavalier. Corsi, Corsi, Corsi
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:56 PM ET
I can fix that.


Andrew MacDonald is a 7th defenseman. Vinny Lecavalier. Corsi, Corsi, Corsi

- Jsaquella

NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT

I can say with certainty that I've read more long comments today than I have all other days I've been here combined
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:04 PM ET
I can fix that.


Andrew MacDonald is a 7th defenseman. Vinny Lecavalier. Corsi, Corsi, Corsi

- Jsaquella

You guys hate this word to? It has become an unspeakable on the Rangers thread
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:07 PM ET
You guys hate this word to? It has become an unspeakable on the Rangers thread
- TPC


Some do, others recognize it as a handy tool to help evaluate teams and players.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:09 PM ET
Some do, others recognize it as a handy tool to help evaluate teams and players.
- Jsaquella

People have been using it to compare Anton Stralman to Drew Doughty
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:11 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Saturday Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


i've shared this before in here in bits and pieces i'm sure, but my first flyers memory was my first live nhl game. march 24, 1980 at the spectrum vs. the ny islanders. i was 7 years old. the game was just barely a month past the miracle on ice, which was my first exposure to the game at all. my dad had a businesss associate who lived in cherry hill, and had season tickets about 6 rows behind the flyers net, just to the left. i don't recall specifically if i was aware of the flyers before that night or not, but i assume so since my neighbor with whom i watched the olympics was a big rangers fan.

not surprisingly, the flyers lost that night 5-2, which i discovered years later was one of only two home losses they suffered the entire season, having gone 36-2-2 at the spectrum. i was also completely unaware of their 35 game unbeaten streak which had ended just a short time before.

i was a big football fan, but had never been to a professional sports event - and the experience was awe inspiring and overwhelming. i remember so many details from that night about the building, the fans, the sounds and smells (most of which were awful). my dad bought me a flyers puck, which i proudly showed off at school the next day. i was disappointed philadelphia lost that night, but i became an instant flyers fan and have never looked back. from that point through the end of my high school years my brother and i would get to about 5 games a year, and i particularly remember from the ages of around 10-15 actually getting depressed when the 3rd period started because it meant the game would soon be over and i wouldn't be back for a month or two or three, which was an eternity. if the flyers lost....forget it...the ride home was pure agony. i would be so upset. my poor dad...deserves a medal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:12 PM ET
People have been using it to compare Anton Stralman to Drew Doughty
- TPC


That'd probably qualify as misuse of the stat, sure. Nobody here takes it to that extreme...also most of us here who use it for analysis realize that it does have it's limits.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:12 PM ET
You guys hate this word to? It has become an unspeakable on the Rangers thread
- TPC

Ignorance is bliss man.

Just lurk for a week. If you make it that far
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:13 PM ET
i've shared this before in here in bits and pieces i'm sure, but my first flyers memory was my first live nhl game. march 24, 1980 at the spectrum vs. the ny islanders. i was 7 years old. the game was just barely a month past the miracle on ice, which was my first exposure to the game at all. my dad had a businesss associate who lived in cherry hill, and had season tickets about 6 rows behind the flyers net, just to the left. i don't recall specifically if i was aware of the flyers before that night or not, but i assume so since my neighbor with whom i watched the olympics was a big rangers fan.

not surprisingly, the flyers lost that night 5-2, which i discovered years later was one of only two home losses they suffered the entire season, having gone 36-2-2 at the spectrum. i was also completely unaware of their 35 game unbeaten streak which had ended just a short time before.

i was a big football fan, but had never been to a professional sports event - and the experience was awe inspiring and overwhelming. i remember so many details from that night about the building, the fans, the sounds and smells (most of which were awful). my dad bought me a flyers puck, which i proudly showed off at school the next day. i was disappointed philadelphia lost that night, but i became an instant flyers fan and have never looked back. from that point through the end of my high school years my brother and i would get to about 5 games a year, and i particularly remember from the ages of around 10-15 actually getting depressed when the 3rd period started because it meant the game would soon be over and i wouldn't be back for a month or two or three, which was an eternity. if the flyers lost....forget it...the ride home was pure agony. i would be so upset. my poor dad...deserves a medal.

- hammarby31



That's great, and I'd expect it from you.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:14 PM ET
That'd probably qualify as misuse of the stat, sure. Nobody here takes it to that extreme...also most of us here who use it for analysis realize that it does have it's limits.
- Jsaquella

Yea understandable. Another reason it is daily argued is trying to defend the Tanner Glass signing since he was at the bottom of the league in Corsi last year.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:15 PM ET
Ignorance is bliss man.

Just lurk for a week. If you make it that far

- Giroux_Is_God

I can't stay away from this site...guilty habit, even in the offseason
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:17 PM ET
This will be a fun thread. Thanks, Bill and also to those who post, it will bring up a lot of memories.

My first recollection was watching an afternoon game on TV between the Canadiens and Chicago during the 71 finals. I think someone at my father's office had taken him to a Flyers' game earlier in the season and he got hooked enough to get a 14 game ticket plan for the 71-72 season.

I don't remember which game I first went to but my guess would be between the Leafs, Bruins and North Stars. I was in 1st grade. Clarke and Favell were my favorites. I got to see between 4 and 6 of the games. My souvenirs from that season were a puck (I love the smell of a hockey puck, weird, I know), a mini stick and the Mylec Tony Esposito mask. All three are probably still at my parents' house. There was a feature in the programs that had a photo of a fan in the stands. Late in the season was a photo of a child wearing a Mylec mask. My gut tells me it is of me. I did get to go to the game against the Blues where they went into the stands after someone dumped a beer on Al Arbour at the zamboni entrance (the next year they changed the visitor entrance to be along the bench). Not understanding French and not hearing the names, for several months, Jaques Plante was Jakwes Plant. I remember the excitement of the big trade with the Kings that season and the news of Bruce Gamble's heart attack.

The lasting impact of that season was that the Flyers were abandoning the game plans going into the 72-73 season and only having single game or season tickets. My father decided to base his decision on whether the team made the play-offs. Going into the last game in Buffalo, the team was battling the Penguins for the final play-off spot. Gerry Meehan scored with 4 seconds left in the entire season and knocked the Flyers out. I was watching the game with my dad and I cried for about a half hour. We still curse that day as we would most likely still have those tickets. I hate Gerry Meehan.

- GeorgeBailey





i could be you. we're all so tortured.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:20 PM ET
Yea understandable. Another reason it is daily argued is trying to defend the Tanner Glass signing since he was at the bottom of the league in Corsi last year.
- TPC


A lot of 4th liners are sporting bad possession numbers, my objection to Glass would be a purely visual one. I don't think he's a good player. He's got toughness, but he takes some dumb penalties and he's not an especially skilled guy, not somebody who can slide up and down if injury or other circumstance requires it.

Of course, he didn't really hurt the Pens during the regular season, and there's teams that made it deep with guys like him onboard.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:21 PM ET
I can't stay away from this site...guilty habit, even in the offseason
- TPC


Yeah, it's like black tar heroin, only less healthy
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:23 PM ET
Last line https://twitter.com/David...92736118870532097/photo/1
- wilsonecho91


omg, that's pure gold.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:24 PM ET
A lot of 4th liners are sporting bad possession numbers, my objection to Glass would be a purely visual one. I don't think he's a good player. He's got toughness, but he takes some dumb penalties and he's not an especially skilled guy, not somebody who can slide up and down if injury or other circumstance requires it.

Of course, he didn't really hurt the Pens during the regular season, and there's teams that made it deep with guys like him onboard.

- Jsaquella

Yea I agree. I wouldn't mind him on a 1 year deal, it just drove me crazy they gave him 3 years. The Rangers signed him to replace Dorsett, and since they were able to turn Dorsett into a 3rd rounder, I guess the value isn't that bad. He is coming off a bad year. Just gotta hope for the best I guess.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:26 PM ET
Yeah, it's like black tar heroin, only less healthy
- Jsaquella

It is one of the few things that helps me get past the 9-5 work day.

You guys feel confident going into next year? I think the division is wide open
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:29 PM ET
i've shared this before in here in bits and pieces i'm sure, but my first flyers memory was my first live nhl game. march 24, 1980 at the spectrum vs. the ny islanders. i was 7 years old. the game was just barely a month past the miracle on ice, which was my first exposure to the game at all. my dad had a businesss associate who lived in cherry hill, and had season tickets about 6 rows behind the flyers net, just to the left. i don't recall specifically if i was aware of the flyers before that night or not, but i assume so since my neighbor with whom i watched the olympics was a big rangers fan.

not surprisingly, the flyers lost that night 5-2, which i discovered years later was one of only two home losses they suffered the entire season, having gone 36-2-2 at the spectrum. i was also completely unaware of their 35 game unbeaten streak which had ended just a short time before.

i was a big football fan, but had never been to a professional sports event - and the experience was awe inspiring and overwhelming. i remember so many details from that night about the building, the fans, the sounds and smells (most of which were awful). my dad bought me a flyers puck, which i proudly showed off at school the next day. i was disappointed philadelphia lost that night, but i became an instant flyers fan and have never looked back. from that point through the end of my high school years my brother and i would get to about 5 games a year, and i particularly remember from the ages of around 10-15 actually getting depressed when the 3rd period started because it meant the game would soon be over and i wouldn't be back for a month or two or three, which was an eternity. if the flyers lost....forget it...the ride home was pure agony. i would be so upset. my poor dad...deserves a medal.

- hammarby31

I'm sorry but I had to laugh that you saw 1 of the 2 regulation losses in the entire season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:29 PM ET
Yea I agree. I wouldn't mind him on a 1 year deal, it just drove me crazy they gave him 3 years. The Rangers signed him to replace Dorsett, and since they were able to turn Dorsett into a 3rd rounder, I guess the value isn't that bad. He is coming off a bad year. Just gotta hope for the best I guess.
- TPC


It's a familiar song here. We did the same with Jody Shelley, good guy worked hard, didn't really hurt or help the team, but 3 years at $1.1mm was not especially good asset management/cap value for him. I'm more annoyed at how it gets blown out of proportion, but it still wasn't a great contract.

Glass is probably a better player than Shelley, but it's a similar thing.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 26 @ 9:30 PM ET
You remember quite a bit, don't you? I'm not sure you've burned as many brain cells as you claim...
- tangent_man

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