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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jul 26 @ 8:22 AM ET
Should have went the Stamkos jersey route, like the rest of us.
- systemtool

Meh, I have until 2016.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:24 AM ET
1 guy argues he isn't a goal scorer, he's an assist guy. The next guy says he is a goal scorer.
- LeafsBlueline


He can do both pretty well. He hit 10 goals and had 31 points last year and wasn't even on the teams first powerplay unit. Chill brogina, chill.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:48 AM ET
Can someone please explain to me the love for Gardiner? Some leaf fans talk about him like hes the next drew daughty. Don't get me wrong, I dont think he's horrible but no one can argue, he's an undersized d-man, who doesn't throw hits, and has an avg slap shot...what's all the excitement about? His point totals aren't impressive...I just dont get it
- LeafsBlueline


See #8 on this list:

http://www.extraskater.co...ason=2013&sort=cf_pct_rel

TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jul 26 @ 8:49 AM ET
oh and the smack you in the face the minute you start thinking
the way to get around that is not to think.






Well thats what The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says.

- dmnted

Good book.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:09 AM ET
Anybody using Wins vs Losses to assess Reimer need to smell the Stee's Morning Brew

Marc







Andre




Fleury





140 wins past 4 seasons, Henrik Lundqvist 132


Fleury >>>>>>>> Lundqvist


that is all.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
It's all reimers fault

@SkinnyPPPhish: Bernier sv% post Oly (11gms): .904
Reimer sv% post Oly (12 gms): .909
RT @DamoSpin "Reimer's inability to fill for injured Bernier...

- burn


Bernier was playing with a hernia after the Olympics, so that comparison is quite flawed.

As for it being "all reimers fault", both directly, and indirectly, it was. He played awful in the stretch, and the team in front of him had zero confidence in him, so they weren't scoring.

I think one (the other being they like him as a person, which is understandable) of the main reasons people (like Mirtle) are defending Reimer is they feel that acknowledging Reimer's poor play in the stretch somehow negates their argument that the Leafs were statistically pre destined to fade in the second half due to their poor possession numbers.

While they are correct about those poor numbers, and the team's need to address them, they would lend more credibility to their statistical assertions if they were willing to take into account other factors that influence results, like horrific goaltending for example.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
Good book.
- TML60


The wife picked up Kings Mr.Mercedes. Looking forward to that read. Love me some brain candy now and then.
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jul 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
Anybody using Wins vs Losses to assess Reimer need to smell the Stee's Morning Brew

Marc







Andre




Fleury





140 wins past 4 seasons, Henrik Lundqvist 132


Fleury >>>>>>>> Lundqvist


that is all.

- AdamFrench

Also... MAF - 1st overall. Lundqvist - 205th overall.

Ergo...

Fleury >>>>>>>> Lundqvist

MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:15 AM ET
Also... MAF - 1st overall. Lundqvist - 205th overall.

Ergo...

Fleury >>>>>>>> Lundqvist


- Not_Stee

Stee
Did you get your hockeybuzz shirt in the mail
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jul 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
Stee
Did you get your hockeybuzz shirt in the mail

- MTL1

Why would I?

I believe the only thing I won is a free ST.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
Why would I?

I believe the only thing I won is a free ST.

- Not_Stee


And my heart.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
Why would I?

I believe the only thing I won is a free ST.

- Not_Stee

Oh gotcha
I got the tshirt for final 8 - arrived a couple days ago
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
Bernier was playing with a hernia after the Olympics, so that comparison is quite flawed.

As for it being "all reimers fault", both directly, and indirectly, it was. He played awful in the stretch, and the team in front of him had zero confidence in him, so they weren't scoring.

I think one (the other being they like him as a person, which is understandable) of the main reasons people (like Mirtle) are defending Reimer is they feel that acknowledging Reimer's poor play in the stretch somehow negates their argument that the Leafs were statistically pre destined to fade in the second half due to their poor possession numbers.

While they are correct about those poor numbers, and the team's need to address them, they would lend more credibility to their statistical assertions if they were willing to take into account other factors that influence results, like horrific goaltending for example.

- The Shrike




Bernier didn't have a hernia in all pre Olympic Games.

Saying that the team had no confidence in reimer and that is why the scoring dried up is beyond flawed. The reason the scoring dried up is because rc started playing kessel line against the other teams top lines. Blaming the goalie for the team not scoring is beyond ridiculous. Reimer wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. He was facing nothing but breakaways and odd man rushes. The team in front of him was playing like crap.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
And my heart.
- systemtool

*stock audience sound of black ladies saying "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"*
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
Ottawa is teeming with talent
- TravisYost


Am I missing something?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
Leafs have a great goalie situation going into next season. I don't know why anyone is complaining.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
*stock audience sound of black ladies saying "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"*
- AdamFrench


An integral part of all this.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
Bernier didn't have a hernia in all pre Olympic Games.

Saying that the team had no confidence in reimer and that is why the scoring dried up is beyond flawed. The reason the scoring dried up is because rc started playing kessel line against the other teams top lines. Blaming the goalie for the team not scoring is beyond ridiculous. Reimer wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. He was facing nothing but breakaways and odd man rushes. The team in front of him was playing like crap.

- burn


Yet when they played in front of a healthy Bernier, they were fine.

Must just be a coincidence.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
Can someone please explain to me the love for Gardiner? Some leaf fans talk about him like hes the next drew daughty. Don't get me wrong, I dont think he's horrible but no one can argue, he's an undersized d-man, who doesn't throw hits, and has an avg slap shot...what's all the excitement about? His point totals aren't impressive...I just dont get it
- LeafsBlueline

And that matters why? He's not a bruising D-Man. He's a great skating puck-mover.
The guy has great talent.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:25 AM ET
Am I missing something?
- systemtool



RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
Melnyk ends any chance of success in Ottawa. Worst owner in the NHL.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
Yet when they played in front of a healthy Bernier, they were fine.

Must just be a coincidence.

- The Shrike




Cept at the end of the year. The team was garbage in front of Bernier as well at the end of the year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
And that matters why? He's not a bruising D-Man. He's a great skating puck-mover.
The guy has great talent.

- RogerRoeper



It matter because it's false? He's listed 6'2".... That's undersized?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
Melnyk ends any chance of success in Ottawa. Worst owner in the NHL.
- RogerRoeper

Certainly doesn't help.

Overachieving with a Vezina year helps too (yes I realize the Leafs early season success was in large part due to Bernier playing like a Vezina contender)
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
Certainly doesn't help.

Overachieving with a Vezina year helps too (yes I realize the Leafs early season success was in large part due to Bernier playing like a Vezina contender)

- AdamFrench


Yeah, that 941 save % was crazy. They'll never get that again. Not sure why more people didn't mention that this time last year when predicting Ottawa as a cup contender.
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