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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
Then what does he get ? Does he sign for 2 yrs to take him to a UFA, or go for an 8 yr deal ?
- bixll


2 years... i cannot see either side wanting this. but i'm also not convinced he goes 8 years. i wouldn't be surprised to see something like 5 years, $45 million.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
Then what does he get ? Does he sign for 2 yrs to take him to a UFA, or go for an 8 yr deal ?
- bixll

I could see the deal being anywhere from 4-8 years.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
2 years... i cannot see either side wanting this. but i'm also not convinced he goes 8 years. i wouldn't be surprised to see something like 5 years, $45 million.
- DoubleDown

I think that's more likely than an 8 year deal.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:44 PM ET
Right, and that is my point... if you don't like the city where your boss want to send you you always have the choice to say no... maybe it means that you will have to find another job but you have that choice...

If my boss tells me that I'm transfered downtown NewYork, take it or leave it, I put my keys on the desk right away... I choose my living environment and everybody else should be able to make that choice... proathlete or not

- Balzac



WTF??? no one is forcing them to be pro athletes...

I want to join the army, but I don't want to get shot at if I go to war...

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 28 @ 12:44 PM ET
Right, and that is my point... if you don't like the city where your boss want to send you you always have the choice to say no... maybe it means that you will have to find another job but you have that choice...

If my boss tells me that I'm transfered downtown NewYork, take it or leave it, I put my keys on the desk right away... I choose my living environment and everybody else should be able to make that choice... proathlete or no
t

- Balzac


a player can do that too. he can retire from the NHL, and then he is free to seek employment with any other hockey league. he can go play in Russia, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland. don't say they don't have freedom because they do.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 28 @ 12:45 PM ET
if 2 yrs takes him to UFA, I could see 2 yrs at 8 per.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:46 PM ET
WTF??? no one is forcing them to be pro athletes...

I want to join the army, but I don't want to get shot at if I go to war...

- TouenneTiiTree



You know what's funny...people complained (rightfully so) about Lindros and his refusal to play in QC...but now it's ok for people to ask to have a NTC...but then ask to be traded, but then select the location of said trade...

Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

Jul 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
You know what's funny...people complained (rightfully so) about Lindros and his refusal to play in QC...but now it's ok for people to ask to have a NTC...but then ask to be traded, but then select the location of said trade...
- TouenneTiiTree

rookie contracts don't have a NTC
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jul 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
rookie contracts don't have a NTC
- Pea-Brain



Je parle du principe...
Balzac
Joined: 08.04.2008

Jul 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
WTF??? no one is forcing them to be pro athletes...

I want to join the army, but I don't want to get shot at if I go to war...

- TouenneTiiTree


oh don't go full about it... Nothing is like army... we are talking prosport... pro athlete are like any other workingman they are just greatly paid because they generate alot of money for their boss

If someday you become a business owner... don't try to run it like an infantry general... you will have a hard time to find good employees

It's not the 30's anymore... wellcome in 2014!
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jul 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
WTF??? no one is forcing them to be pro athletes...

I want to join the army, but I don't want to get shot at if I go to war...

- TouenneTiiTree

Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jul 28 @ 12:59 PM ET

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
Je parle du principe...
- TouenneTiiTree

I never knew that "du principe" meant "out of my rear" in French.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jul 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
oh don't go full about it... Nothing is like army... we are talking prosport... pro athlete are like any other workingman they are just greatly paid because they generate alot of money for their boss

If someday you become a business owner... don't try to run it like an infantry general... you will have a hard time to find good employees

It's not the 30's anymore... wellcome in 2014!

- Balzac


You can't blame an employee for using something that his boss gave him, to get him to stay...
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 28 @ 1:17 PM ET

I wanna argue too!!
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Criss... Lis Thibault.


Pus capable.

- Pecafan Fan


on a vraiment besoin de ça un "lieutenant-gouverneur"

Ça fait quoi exactement, à part se faire engraisser par le peuple?

Criss de monarchie britannique de marde.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
You can't blame an employee for using something that his boss gave him, to get him to stay...
- pete26


Then have guidelines to where his boss can't give him that thing.

Isn't that what we are discussing?
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jul 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Then have guidelines to where his boss can't give him that thing.

Isn't that what we are discussing?

- l3ig_l2ecl


dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 28 @ 1:23 PM ET

- 3M

that was a great movie
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jul 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
Then have guidelines to where his boss can't give him that thing.

Isn't that what we are discussing?

- l3ig_l2ecl


Doubt the PA would allow that.

Anyway, if the boss is desperate enough to give it, then he should live by it.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jul 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
that was a great movie
- dt99999


That was one of my favorite scenes.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
that was a great movie
- dt99999




tomei
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 28 @ 1:28 PM ET



tomei

- Crimsoninja

l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
Doubt the PA would allow that.

Anyway, if the boss is desperate enough to give it, then he should live by it.

- pete26


Just like they didn't allow to make less than 60%, or how they didn't allow to have a max of 8year contracts?
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 28 @ 1:29 PM ET

- 3M

Balls on accurate was a good scene as well. That movie is just loaded with great lines.

Lisa, I don't need this. I swear to God, I do not need this right now, okay? I've got a judge that's just aching to throw me in jail. An idiot who wants to fight me for two hundred dollars. Slaughtered pigs. Giant loud whistles. I ain't slept in five days. I got no money, a dress code problem, AND a little murder case which, in the balance, holds the lives of two innocent kids. Not to mention your
[taps his foot] BIOLOGICAL CLOCK - my career, your life, our marriage, and let me see, what else can we pile on? Is there any more poop we can pile on to the top of the outcome of this case? Is it possible?
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