you can't waive rights in a contract based on circumstances that occur after its signed.

what if a player has a NMC and won't waive it? technically the team could make his life so miserable that he's force to request a trade?

GMs know what they're getting into.
- dt99999

That's why you should formalize the process (a signed addendum to the contract).

If a player as a NMC and the GM makes life miserable on him, he can always file a grievance...no?

what constitutes "asking for a trade"?

what if the agent goes to the GM and says so-and-so is wondering if there's an chance for him to go to a contender?

it leaks out as it often does.


SO AND SO ASKED FOR A TRADE?



the NTC is in the contract. black and white.

if the GM doesn't like he he should pass on it. if it's a deal-breaker then it's up to him to see if the player is worth that deal.
- dt99999

shut up.

You can if it's a clause in your contract.

And as far as GMs making it miserable.... I really don't see this happening, especially with social media now. A player could come out to the media and the GM would be so much under fire.
- l3ig_l2ecl

not really. poop leaks all the time and media can twist whatever their sources give them


look at Alfredsson. he was the bad guy at the beginning until the story came out then the team looked like poop and nobody still knows what happened.

That's why you should formalize the process (a signed addendum to the contract).

If a player as a NMC and the GM makes life miserable on him, he can always file a grievance...no?
- TouenneTiiTree

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read.


so a player could ask for a trade but until he signs the addendum he hasn't really asked for it?

what constitutes "asking for a trade"?

what if the agent goes to the GM and says so-and-so is wondering if there's an chance for him to go to a contender?

it leaks out as it often does.


SO AND SO ASKED FOR A TRADE?



the NTC is in the contract. black and white.

if the GM doesn't like he he should pass on it. if it's a deal-breaker then it's up to him to see if the player is worth that deal.
- dt99999

I feel so dirty that I agree with you.

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read.


so a player could ask for a trade but until he signs the addendum he hasn't really asked for it?
- dt99999

You include in the original contract, that if the player requests a trade, his NTC is nullified.

That's not really complicated as a concept.

what constitutes "asking for a trade"?

what if the agent goes to the GM and says so-and-so is wondering if there's an chance for him to go to a contender?

it leaks out as it often does.


SO AND SO ASKED FOR A TRADE?



the NTC is in the contract. black and white.

if the GM doesn't like he he should pass on it. if it's a deal-breaker then it's up to him to see if the player is worth that deal.
- dt99999

two things...

1) a FORMAL trade request with paper work to back it up from the player's camp
2) totally agree with the bolded...but somehow people think (and GMs aren't denying) that the NTC is given because there's a gun on their heads and it's the ONLY way to sign players nowadays...

shut up.
- Pecafan Fan

in concept I agree with you but in practice it's not workable.

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read.


so a player could ask for a trade but until he signs the addendum he hasn't really asked for it?
- dt99999

Stop lying...I've written much dumber things before...

but to answer your question...Yes.

two things...

1) a FORMAL trade request with paper work to back it up from the player's camp
2) totally agree with the bolded...but somehow people think (and GMs aren't denying) that the NTC is given because there's a gun on their heads and it's the ONLY way to sign players nowadays...
- TouenneTiiTree

NTC is like money


you offer $4M, the other team offers $4M + NTC

you offer $4M, the other team offers $5M


no gun to anyone's head to match

Looks like Sacha

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read.


so a player could ask for a trade but until he signs the addendum he hasn't really asked for it?
- dt99999

If a player asks for a trade, then why the (frank) would he not want to be traded?

Things that make too much sense get too complicated

You include in the original contract, that if the player requests a trade, his NTC is nullified.

That's not really complicated as a concept.
- Pecafan Fan

If a player with a NTC is traded they do lose the provision after the trade, I believe.

Looks like Sacha


- Pecafan Fan

got to be him

Edit: nah, it's Tony Sollazzo according to twitter

You include in the original contract, that if the player requests a trade, his NTC is nullified.

That's not really complicated as a concept.
- Pecafan Fan

correct. it's a very simple concept. in theory.

in practicality, it's nonsense. because as dt mentioned, the entire process of "demanding a trade" will become this greyish/hazy sequence of events where no demand is made but preferences are communicated from one party to another.

at the end of the day, the club still has a malcontent player to deal with and unload, and a limited number of teams on which to unload him.

If a player asks for a trade, then why the (frank) would he not want to be traded?

Things that make too much sense get too complicated
- l3ig_l2ecl

?

they do want to be traded. they were just contractually given a measure of control over the destination.

?

they do want to be traded. they were just contractually given a measure of control over the destination.
- dt99999

but you can't have it both ways.

You are asking one party to do something that is forbidden by a contract you signed with them...

got to be him

Edit: nah, it's Tony Sollazzo according to twitter
- Pea-Brain

Sacha is shorter and chunkier.

but you can't have it both ways.

You are asking one party to do something that is forbidden by a contract you signed with them...
- TouenneTiiTree

what the hell are you talking about?

Sacha is shorter and chunkier.
- hscesq

and dumber although that guy looks like he'd give him a good run.

correct. it's a very simple concept. in theory.

in practicality, it's nonsense. because as dt mentioned, the entire process of "demanding a trade" will become this greyish/hazy sequence of events where no demand is made but preferences are communicated from one party to another.

at the end of the day, the club still has a malcontent player to deal with and unload, and a limited number of teams on which to unload him.
- DoubleDown

Make it so that a GM cannot trade a player with a NTC until the paper is signed. Make it so that a player can only be traded if he signs the paper.

So players would no longer ask to be traded, or if they want out so bad, it's none of their businesses where they go.

I don't see what's complicated with this.

You can claim a GM will make his life miserable. What's he gonna do? Cut his ice time? Bench him? Well the reason he's wanting a trade is because that probably already happened. If the GM wants to trade him, it's probably because he's not performing.

what the hell are you talking about?
- dt99999

Be nice to Willis

what the hell are you talking about?
- dt99999

you're headed down a slippery slope bro

what the hell are you talking about?
- dt99999

No Trade Clauses...you?

you're headed down a slippery slope bro
- DoubleDown