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Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
I can't see Stevie Y letting Stamkos go to free agency. If Stamkos turns down extension in a year I see two options

After next season I can see Stamkos getting moved at the deadline as the ultimate rental - but even half a year and only 1 playoff round guarantee of Stamkos would cost a lot. Stamkos plays the rental and comes home in offseason.

Or

Stamkos comes to Toronto a year earlier in a trade for something like Kadri/prospect/1st.

I much rather get Stamkos for free but I think Stevie Y would make sure he got something in return for his departing star, from us or some other franchise.

- LeafsOneBillion

Kadri, prospect and first? Valuing your people a little high aren't we?
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
We've lost Vinny (buyout) AND Marty (trade), I doubt this fan base could handle YET another move like that by Yzerman. If no deal was done by the end of season/playoffs in 2016, that's when he'll be moved.
- Artyukhin76


You're not getting anything for his rights.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:05 PM ET
You're not getting anything for his rights.
- Michael_Stuart


we will see?
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:06 PM ET
We've lost Vinny (buyout) AND Marty (trade), I doubt this fan base could handle YET another move like that by Yzerman. If no deal was done by the end of season/playoffs in 2016, that's when he'll be moved.
- Artyukhin76


The fan base should be happy for what Vinny did as a Bolt and that he currently isn't a Bolt. Marty on the other hand must of been a disappointment. You can't really move him after the 2016 season cause that's when he'll be a ufa unless you think you could get a pick for a sign and trade (getting that extra year on the contract. But it sounds like you have no clue whats going on.
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
You could get a draft pick for that extra year if Stamkos does a sign and trade.

Stamkos is classy enough to not handicap the Bolts.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
The fan base should be happy for what Vinny did as a Bolt and that he currently isn't a Bolt. Marty on the other hand must of been a disappointment. You can't really move him after the 2016 season cause that's when he'll be a ufa unless you think you could get a pick for a sign and trade (getting that extra year on the contract. But it sounds like you have no clue whats going on.
- LeafsOneBillion

More of a clue then you. I at least have level headed opinions, you live in a (frank)ing fantasy world.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:09 PM ET
we will see?
- Artyukhin76


Rights are worth very little. The market has consistently shown that.
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:10 PM ET
I can't see Stevie Y letting Stamkos go to free agency. If Stamkos turns down extension in a year I see two options

After next season I can see Stamkos getting moved at the deadline as the ultimate rental - but even half a year and only 1 playoff round guarantee of Stamkos would cost a lot. Stamkos plays the rental and comes home in offseason.

Or

Stamkos comes to Toronto a year earlier in a trade for something like Kadri/prospect/1st.

I much rather get Stamkos for free but I think Stevie Y would make sure he got something in return for his departing star, from us or some other franchise.

- LeafsOneBillion


This..

You can argue over the return but it will be something TB can't miss out on.

LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:10 PM ET
Kadri, prospect and first? Valuing your people a little high aren't we?
- Artyukhin76


No man, it's actually called good business. I much rather not give up the above and just wait for Stamkos.

A year of Stamkos would call for a trinity trade (player, prospect, pick) and that's the most I'd, and hopefully the Leafs, would give.
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:12 PM ET
More of a clue then you. I at least have level headed opinions, you live in a (frank)ing fantasy world.
- Artyukhin76


*than

And ya I'll be living in a (frank)ing fantasy world once Stamkos comes home.
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:14 PM ET
This..

You can argue over the return but it will be something TB can't miss out on.

- D.Lemieux



Thanks
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
*than

And ya I'll be living in a (frank)ing fantasy world once Stamkos comes home.

- LeafsOneBillion

When has ANYTHING worked out well in that cesspool that is your organization. They have done nothing but abuse the players that have come in, misstreated them and crucify them.
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
When has ANYTHING worked out well in that cesspool that is your organization. They have done nothing but abuse the players that have come in, misstreated them and crucify them.
- Artyukhin76


Ok here we go..I'm getting some popcorn..
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Rights are worth very little. The market has consistently shown that.
- Michael_Stuart


Toronto wouldn't give anything for rights knowing full well they will get him as a FA. They would be dumb to. Then again, Nonis is the GM and he just signed Carlyle to an extension.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
Toronto wouldn't give anything for rights knowing full well they will get him as a FA. They would be dumb to. Then again, Nonis is the GM and he just signed Carlyle to an extension.
- TBolts4


Exactly.

And, consequently, no other team would give up much for his rights knowing that he's likely set on Toronto.
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
When has ANYTHING worked out well in that cesspool that is your organization. They have done nothing but abuse the players that have come in, misstreated them and crucify them.
- Artyukhin76


I really don't blame you for your anger. I'd be beyond pissed if it looked like my barely relevant franchise was about to lose the only thing that made it relevant.
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Toronto wouldn't give anything for rights knowing full well they will get him as a FA. They would be dumb to. Then again, Nonis is the GM and he just signed Carlyle to an extension.
- TBolts4


No disagreement with any of that. Extension wasn't smart from a $$ perspective.. but more of a golden parachute than any guarantee RC sticks if things go bad .. He will be fired just as fast.. MLSE has money to burn..
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Ok here we go..I'm getting some popcorn..
- D.Lemieux


Get me some... Arty is about to get off work, fireworks are about to begin!
LeafsOneBillion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 04.14.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Toronto wouldn't give anything for rights knowing full well they will get him as a FA. They would be dumb to. Then again, Nonis is the GM and he just signed Carlyle to an extension.
- TBolts4


Of course not but they would give up something for an extra year of Stamkos, i.e. a sign and trade.
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
I really don't blame you for your anger. I'd be beyond pissed if it looked like my barely relevant franchise was about to lose the only thing that made it relevant.
- LeafsOneBillion


Pretty sure they finished WEEEEELLLLLLL above the Leafs without the Stammer in the lineup for 3-4 months.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Ok here we go..I'm getting some popcorn..
- D.Lemieux

Don't bother, I'm done lowering myself to his pathetic trolling. I can only hope that he follows in footsteps of Ms. Todd, good day you wastes of air.
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
Get me some... Arty is about to get off work, fireworks are about to begin!
- TBolts4


Butter? and do you want one of the free flavour pouches they give you at the movies..
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
Butter? and do you want one of the free flavour pouches they give you at the movies..
- D.Lemieux


Nah... i gotta keep it healthy
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
I really don't blame you for your anger. I'd be beyond pissed if it looked like my barely relevant franchise was about to lose the only thing that made it relevant.
- LeafsOneBillion



Lecavalier?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
I like stamkos but after this season you have to extend his contract! If he does not want to you have to trade him! We can't let him walk for nothing! No reason we can't get nylander kadri and two first rounders for him.
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