Tough to argue with that. (frank) you Gainey
- habfanforever

Long gone are the days of "in Bob we trust" eh?

Long gone are the days of "in Bob we trust" eh?
- prock

He started off pretty well. The Kovalev acquisition. The Rivet for Gorges and Patches deal. At some point he just went batpoop insane and went all in. Slats saw the opportunity and raped him.

At this moment in time, Bergevin overpaid. We'll see what he has up his sleeve soon. They need to trade someone now.

Nobody is accusing him of being Gretzky here. He may not be that good but he is not that bag either. If he gets consistent he can easily put up 40-50 points. Also his playoff performance speaks for itself. Point is, I've seen way more dollars for worse players. I don't know why all the hoopla over this deal.
- habfanforever

There is hoopla over most free agent deals these days. Half the deals signed are overpaying contracts. Not as much when its your own player though. Its not terrible in comparison but let's not paint him as something he isn't. He's never going to be top 6 and he will never score 50 points. If he ever hits 40 I doubt he does that more than once or twice in his career. You could give any plug some good linemates and they'll score 40 though.

At this moment in time, Bergevin overpaid. We'll see what he has up his sleeve soon. They need to trade someone now.
- elcabong

Desharnais has to be expendable now. Galchenyuk is ready for center role.

He started off pretty well. The Kovalev acquisition. The Rivet for Gorges and Patches deal. At some point he just went batpoop insane and went all in. Slats saw the opportunity and raped him.
- habfanforever

Slats. One of the worst GMs at free agent signings. But wins almost every trade.

There is hoopla over most free agent deals these days. Half the deals signed are overpaying contracts. Not as much when its your own player though. Its not terrible in comparison but let's not paint him as something he isn't. He's never going to be top 6 and he will never score 50 points. If he ever hits 40 I doubt he does that more than once or twice in his career. You could give any plug some good linemates and they'll score 40 though.
- prock

He's good enough to pull it off. Question is, is he consistent enough?

Slats. One of the worst GMs at free agent signings. But wins almost every trade.
- prock

It's amazing how a person can be so good at one way of acquiring players and so bad at the other.

He's good enough to pull it off. Question is, is he consistent enough?
- habfanforever

No

He's good enough to pull it off. Question is, is he consistent enough?
- habfanforever

I'm pretty sure he signed the contract under the condition he accepts his role will change into a more defensive one. I think his playoff games saved his rear end.

At 3.5M, he better have a thick skin, as he'll be under the microscope from now on. If he replaces Plek in a defensive role, and succeeds, his salary will turn out to be fine.

He's good enough to pull it off. Question is, is he consistent enough?
- habfanforever

he could hit 50 but it would be a career year. he was on pace for 50+ in the lockout season and score 13 in 17 PO games. the talent and ability are there. the question is whether or not he can put it all together on a somewhat consistent basis. at this point, all signs point to no. he's no longer a young, developing player. he's 25. he's into his 3rd pro contract.

It's amazing how a person can be so good at one way of acquiring players and so bad at the other.
- eichiefs9

I don’t know how he does it. He specializes in highway robbery, and excels at it.

I don’t know how he does it. He specializes in highway robbery, and excels at it.
- prock

Imagine him at a yard sale? He'd clean the place out for a dollar.

It's amazing how a person can be so good at one way of acquiring players and so bad at the other.
- eichiefs9

IMO, his only true head scratcher in the post lockout era was Redden. Drury and Gomez, in hindsight, yeah, deals sucked but they were highly productive players when those deals were signed. Redden was a frightening contract though.

It's amazing how a person can be so good at one way of acquiring players and so bad at the other.
- eichiefs9

Yep. Still the best "trader" in the league.

IMO, his only true head scratcher in the post lockout era was Redden. Drury and Gomez, in hindsight, yeah, deals sucked but they were highly productive players when those deals were signed. Redden was a frightening contract though.
- DoubleDown

Frightening yes....but pales in comparison to the decision the Sens made between which of he or Chara to keep. The whole world said...huh?

IMO, his only true head scratcher in the post lockout era was Redden. Drury and Gomez, in hindsight, yeah, deals sucked but they were highly productive players when those deals were signed. Redden was a frightening contract though.
- DoubleDown

It's not so much about the players he signed but it's the deal's they were given. Drury was give over $7M a year in 07/08. That was an absurd salary for the time. Gomez's was even worse at $7.357M for 7 years. Those numbers are ridiculous.

I'm sure I'm going to spark some sort of Isles-Rangers insult-fest for bringing it up, but the man is a genius thief when it comes to trades. Nobody can take that away from him. Although you could argue that CBJ won the Nash trade. And for the record I'm saying you can argue it. Not that CBJ won it hands down.

It's not so much about the players he signed but it's the deal's they were given. Drury was give over $7M a year in 07/08. That was an absurd salary for the time. Gomez's was even worse at $7.357M for 7 years. Those numbers are ridiculous.

I'm sure I'm going to spark some sort of Isles-Rangers insult-fest for bringing it up, but the man is a genius thief when it comes to trades. Nobody can take that away from him. Although you could argue that CBJ won the Nash trade. And for the record I'm saying you can argue it. Not that CBJ won it hands down.
- eichiefs9

Might be what cost Howson his job. Too bad for him, he put together most of what I think will be a pretty good team next year.

It's not so much about the players he signed but it's the deal's they were given. Drury was give over $7M a year in 07/08. That was an absurd salary for the time. Gomez's was even worse at $7.357M for 7 years. Those numbers are ridiculous.

I'm sure I'm going to spark some sort of Isles-Rangers insult-fest for bringing it up, but the man is a genius thief when it comes to trades. Nobody can take that away from him. Although you could argue that CBJ won the Nash trade. And for the record I'm saying you can argue it. Not that CBJ won it hands down.
- eichiefs9

i get confused between the Nash and Gaborik trades...
seems like they worked out for both teams. although with Callahan gone, maybe the Rags wish they still had Dubinsky.

Might be what cost Howson his job. Too bad for him, he put together most of what I think will be a pretty good team next year.
- Jeropotato

Columbus needs to stop trading with LA.

No one cares about Turris. He's the best Centre the Sens have and that in itself is pathetic. That's a basement team with a throw away roster if I've ever seen one. My biggest concern with the Sens is they may get a solid shot at Connor McDavid.
- prock

this coming from a Nashville fan....HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! HA!

Might be what cost Howson his job. Too bad for him, he put together most of what I think will be a pretty good team next year.
- Jeropotato

Very true, but Jarmo is a pretty awesome general manager though.

i get confused between the Nash and Gaborik trades...
seems like they worked out for both teams. although with Callahan gone, maybe the Rags wish they still had Dubinsky.
- DoubleDown

I think the Rangers came out on top of the Gabby trade. Brassard and John Moore were nice hauls. Dorsett is and was a pile of donkey stool.

Columbus needs to stop trading with LA.
- DoubleDown

The Carter trade was forgivable....tho I wasn't surprised when he got all Douchey about the initial trade, and I'm not in the hockey community. Let me put is this way, Carter wanted out of Columbus as bad as Spezza and Kesler wanted out of their respective teams...I think Jack Johnson is a pretty good return when you look around.

Very true, but Jarmo is a pretty awesome general manager though.
- eichiefs9

Oh I agree....I was just impressed with Howson, never really got his due...glad we re-hired him.