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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:17 AM ET
Yeah, I agree. Plus I see Clarkson getting the start on the second line and not the third so it kind of all makes sense.

Even though they play different positions....disregard that statement

Still early

- RickJames77


i don't know if it's necessarily the best idea to start Clarkson in a top-6 role. you're expected to produce in a top-6 role. that kind of pressure might not be ideal. he'd probably be better off tucked away down the lineup where he can build his confidence. it will likely be low to start the season so if he's on a top-2 line and then doesn't pop a few early... could be a slippery slope.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
Disregarded.
- SolidGoldBricks

I posted that and was like wait a tick...
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
booth will start the year with santorelli

they've played a ton together

- Dozzer


Kontiola komarov
Booth Santa

Prolly end up together on 3 and 4. Makes total sense.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
i don't know if it's necessarily the best idea to start Clarkson in a top-6 role. you're expected to produce in a top-6 role. that kind of pressure might not be ideal. he'd probably be better off tucked away down the lineup where he can build his confidence. it will likely be low to start the season so if he's on a top-2 line and then doesn't pop a few early... could be a slippery slope.
- DoubleDown

I understand your point and would tend to agree with it, but I don't see too much secondary scoring from the bottom 6 to bolster his confidence. Not saying the Leafs bottom six won't chip in, just that it won't help him regain his confidence. I think he just needs a good camp and a fresh start in the top 6 at the beginning of the season to see what happens.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:21 AM ET
Somebody called Booth signing dumb cause it pushes Frattin or Ashton to the press box.

As if that's a bad thing...

- Big_Lightnin



that should help aston with his breathing since his nose will not get in the way of another player fist.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 9:25 AM ET
i don't know if it's necessarily the best idea to start Clarkson in a top-6 role. you're expected to produce in a top-6 role. that kind of pressure might not be ideal. he'd probably be better off tucked away down the lineup where he can build his confidence. it will likely be low to start the season so if he's on a top-2 line and then doesn't pop a few early... could be a slippery slope.
- DoubleDown


But the opposite is true: play sheltered minutes with better players in the top 6, garner the support of the coach by choosing you over others to play on the top two lines.

I think, regardless of the "accountability/compete" noise, Clarkson will start playing with Lupul and Kadri.

I'd actually like to see Lupul up with Kessel and put JVR on a line with Kadri to take on some of the tougher defensive assignments and leave LBK as the sheltered scoring line.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:26 AM ET
I posted that and was like wait a tick...
- RickJames77


DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:26 AM ET
But the opposite is true: play sheltered minutes with better players in the top 6, garner the support of the coach by choosing you over others to play on the top two lines.

I think, regardless of the "accountability/compete" noise, Clarkson will start playing with Lupul and Kadri.

I'd actually like to see Lupul up with Kessel and put JVR on a line with Kadri to take on some of the tougher defensive assignments and leave LBK as the sheltered scoring line.

- gravyface


i don't think that's a bad idea at all. i don't like the idea of having a loaded top line if you can avoid it.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:30 AM ET
A lot think Booth will be Raymondesque but better, others don't like Marlie players who have earned the chance being told basically, you have no shot as they keep signing players to one year deals.

Also, haven't heard Jackie Blue song in a long time, catchy tune!

- LeafMan



I think the 1 year 1 million type deals are done with the foresight of "if a marlie player earns a spot they can have it"
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
But the opposite is true: play sheltered minutes with better players in the top 6, garner the support of the coach by choosing you over others to play on the top two lines.

I think, regardless of the "accountability/compete" noise, Clarkson will start playing with Lupul and Kadri.

I'd actually like to see Lupul up with Kessel and put JVR on a line with Kadri to take on some of the tougher defensive assignments and leave LBK as the sheltered scoring line.

- gravyface

This...pretty much what I was saying above and I 100% agree.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
i don't know if it's necessarily the best idea to start Clarkson in a top-6 role. you're expected to produce in a top-6 role. that kind of pressure might not be ideal. he'd probably be better off tucked away down the lineup where he can build his confidence. it will likely be low to start the season so if he's on a top-2 line and then doesn't pop a few early... could be a slippery slope.
- DoubleDown

Fish or cut bait. If he struggles again, sit him on his ass then buy the (frank)er out and move on.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:33 AM ET
Especially sunny is that we got Komarov back.

I didn't want to see him end up Back in the USSR...

- lumlums



Guess we need the leafs to sign someone named Jude to keep this game going
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:33 AM ET
Fish or cut bait. If he struggles again, sit him on his ass then buy the (frank)er out and move on.
- Woderwick

I may be wrong, but I don't think you can buy him out
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:34 AM ET
I just got back from the MasterCard Centre:

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:35 AM ET
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can buy him out
- RickJames77

next year
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:36 AM ET
i don't know if it's necessarily the best idea to start Clarkson in a top-6 role. you're expected to produce in a top-6 role. that kind of pressure might not be ideal. he'd probably be better off tucked away down the lineup where he can build his confidence. it will likely be low to start the season so if he's on a top-2 line and then doesn't pop a few early... could be a slippery slope.
- DoubleDown



You are a pretty good poster.... good insight.... seems impossible given you are a Habs fan... wouldn't believe it if i didn't see it with my own eyes
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can buy him out
- RickJames77


We can, but the cap hit counts against us and with all those bonuses, it would be a huge cap burden for years to come:

EXT CAP HIT BREAKDOWN (for copying and pasting)
David Clarkson buyout from CapGeek.com
2015-16: $4,716,667
2016-17: $3,716,667
2017-18: $3,716,667
2018-19: $4,716,667
2019-20: $4,716,667
2020-21: $466,667
2021-22: $466,667
2022-23: $466,667
2023-24: $466,667
2024-25: $466,667

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
You are a pretty good poster.... good insight.... seems impossible given you are a Habs fan... wouldn't believe it if i didn't see it with my own eyes
- jribout


I think MTL1 and him are closet Leafs fans.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
I just got back from the MasterCard Centre:


- Atomic Wedgie

School of Dozzer art?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
It is Lums,, he is the spark that ignites us all into punnery. Blame him.


Could be worse, we could be cursing at each other constantly..

- bixll



I'm just as bad at work
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
I just got back from the MasterCard Centre:


- Atomic Wedgie


Hands down, worst photoshop hack job I've seen in years.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
You're my favourite playa
- lumlums

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
next year
- Woderwick

Do you know what the rules are with regard to the buyouts? I think I have a misunderstanding of them for some reason
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 25 @ 9:39 AM ET
But the opposite is true: play sheltered minutes with better players in the top 6, garner the support of the coach by choosing you over others to play on the top two lines.

I think, regardless of the "accountability/compete" noise, Clarkson will start playing with Lupul and Kadri.

I'd actually like to see Lupul up with Kessel and put JVR on a line with Kadri to take on some of the tougher defensive assignments and leave LBK as the sheltered scoring line.

- gravyface


thats how they started last year and kadri JVR had ZERO chemistry

kadri had no chemistry with JVR when bozak was hurt as well.. they do not compliment each other well
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 9:40 AM ET
I think the 1 year 1 million type deals are done with the foresight of "if a marlie player earns a spot they can have it"
- jribout


Pretty much, yeah. Put those 1M guys on waivers, good chance somebody takes a flyer on them, and the cap hit buried with the Marlies is less than 500K for all those guys.
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