He wasn't terrible last year I never said he was I said he's just a terrible goalie all around and is no more than a backup
- Bigern4MVP

wow

you understand how math and averages work right??
---this question is rhetorical, cause it's clear you dont. you think the more games played comment helps your point.

the more time you play the better the chances of bring down your totals to average numbers. it's easier to achieve solid numbers in a 40 games than it is in 15. they dont fluctuate as wildly from game to game in a bigger sample.
think about it. do some research. this is how it works.

jesus man. im not even trying to make you look foolish. you're just doing this to yourself.
- hugefemale dog77

So if your final stats mattered you would rather play 40 games and play behind a poop defense 40 times instead of 15 times, one good game 59 saves boosts your stats immediately
I'm not trying to make you look stupid but you have been on another teams board for about 3 hours now

wow
- hugefemale dog77

29 teams and 29 fan bases think he's poop guess the one stupid one
There's a reason he was dumped by 2 teams already

So if your final stats mattered you would rather play 40 games and play behind a poop defense 40 times instead of 15 times, one good game 59 saves boosts your stats immediately
I'm not trying to make you look stupid but you have been on another teams board for about 3 hours now
- Bigern4MVP

yes.

yes.
- hugefemale dog77

Well when the oilers are in second last in the conference by November and scrivens is sitting on the bench maybe you'll finally realize how bad he really is

29 teams and 29 fan bases think he's poop guess the one stupid one
There's a reason he was dumped by 2 teams already
- Bigern4MVP

i wonder if you actually thought this complete and total conjecture was a solid retort when you were writing it?

have you been in contact recently with all the fans and team execs of these 29 other teams?
do you have a transcript of these conversations? and why in gods name would u be discussing ben scrivens if in fact you had spoken to say a fan of the hurricanes?

Flames are very good defensively...just could score enough to win those 1 goal games.
- Jeropotato

Very good for a 27th place team. Average at best.
I'd say almost every playoff team had a better D than the flames.

Passed out on the couch, I see we have the same argument still going on


Scrivens & Fasth >> Dubnyk... I think Fasth has more upside, but you guys could be right in saying Scrivens could be the better goalie right now. Are either of these guys long term starters? Probably not. Could they be? Maybe. At the very least they can act as a stop gap until something better is found, much like we are doing with Hiller and Ramo.

I think Hiller and Ramo > Scrivens and Fasth, and think Ramo has the most potential upside of the 4. Hiller is a stop gap, and I think he has the least likelihood to be extended by Calgary (hopefully he plays well enough to be flipped at a TDL day). I think BB and BT plan to keep Ortio in the AHL for at least this season, and most likely next season too, then he will move up to allow Gillies to play in the AHL.


So to hopefully settle the argument and move on to something more interesting (sexcapades anyone ) Scrivens and Fasth are at the very least NHL quality goaltenders who should push themselves to be better, something the Oilers haven't had since the rebuild began. Could they become legit starters? I'd say probably not, but who the (frank) knows

Passed out on the couch, I see we have the same argument still going on


Scrivens & Fasth >> Dubnyk... I think Fasth has more upside, but you guys could be right in saying Scrivens could be the better goalie right now. Are either of these guys long term starters? Probably not. Could they be? Maybe. At the very least they can act as a stop gap until something better is found, much like we are doing with Hiller and Ramo.

I think Hiller and Ramo > Scrivens and Fasth, and think Ramo has the most potential upside of the 4. Hiller is a stop gap, and I think he has the least likelihood to be extended by Calgary (hopefully he plays well enough to be flipped at a TDL day). I think BB and BT plan to keep Ortio in the AHL for at least this season, and most likely next season too, then he will move up to allow Gillies to play in the AHL.


So to hopefully settle the argument and move on to something more interesting (sexcapades anyone ) Scrivens and Fasth are at the very least NHL quality goaltenders who should push themselves to be better, something the Oilers haven't had since the rebuild began. Could they become legit starters? I'd say probably not, but who the (frank) knows
- Saskabush

I think you summed it up awesomely goat (frank)er I could see Fasth taking the starter role, last season he took some time adjust to NA ice but showed great potential I thought. Scrivens will always be a decent backup.

Passed out on the couch, I see we have the same argument still going on


Scrivens & Fasth >> Dubnyk... I think Fasth has more upside, but you guys could be right in saying Scrivens could be the better goalie right now. Are either of these guys long term starters? Probably not. Could they be? Maybe. At the very least they can act as a stop gap until something better is found, much like we are doing with Hiller and Ramo.

I think Hiller and Ramo > Scrivens and Fasth, and think Ramo has the most potential upside of the 4. Hiller is a stop gap, and I think he has the least likelihood to be extended by Calgary (hopefully he plays well enough to be flipped at a TDL day). I think BB and BT plan to keep Ortio in the AHL for at least this season, and most likely next season too, then he will move up to allow Gillies to play in the AHL.


So to hopefully settle the argument and move on to something more interesting (sexcapades anyone ) Scrivens and Fasth are at the very least NHL quality goaltenders who should push themselves to be better, something the Oilers haven't had since the rebuild began. Could they become legit starters? I'd say probably not, but who the (frank) knows
- Saskabush

i think fasth has the potential to be a reasonable true starter in the nhl.
while scrivens is probably more of a stop gap tender who has shown he can fill in admirably for the short term.
fasth more upside (played great when hiller went down the previous season--15-6-2, 2.18 gaa)
while scrivens is less of a question mark.

at the very least our tending is MUCH better than with dubnyk and labarbera.
and after mact did some dealing here and there, i think we ended up spending a couple middling picks to acquire both.
solid moves by mact.

i dont think our tending will be elite by any means. but i think at the very least it can be adequate and unlike last year-keep us in the hunt should we see furthur development from the kids, a stronger team defence etc.


as far as hiller goes; he struggled with that vertigo issue, but he can be an acrobat, stand on his head and win games single handedly. but is also abit inconsistent and can let in weak ones.

i think fasth has the potential to be a reasonable true starter in the nhl.
while scrivens is probably more of a stop gap tender who has shown he can fill in admirably for the short term.
fasth more upside (played great when hiller went down the previous season--15-6-2, 2.18 gaa)
while scrivens is less of a question mark.

at the very least our tending is MUCH better than with dubnyk and labarbera.
and after mact did some dealing here and there, i think we ended up spending a couple middling picks to acquire both.
solid moves by mact.

i dont think our tending will be elite by any means. but i think at the very least it can be adequate and unlike last year-keep us in the hunt should we see furthur development from the kids, a stronger team defence etc.


as far as hiller goes; he struggled with that vertigo issue, but he can be an acrobat, stand on his head and win games single handedly. but is also abit inconsistent and can let in weak ones.
- hugefemale dog77

Why didn't the Oilers try to pick up Hiller??

Colin writes blogs?
- Jeropotato

Flames are very good defensively...just could score enough to win those 1 goal games.
- Jeropotato

Well the Flames did have more goals than the Oilers soooooo.......


Seriously though....I think Ramo and Hiller are better than Fasth and Scrivens. But lets all be honest folks. Fasth and Scrivens is sooooo much better than Dooby and Labamba. (frank) that's a horrible tandem haha

That was some good banter to read through fellas. You're all a bunch of sweet hearts in my eyes ....other than a couple of you

Stoll is a great guy. lol. May have been tough to play against but still a really good guy. Cammi has not grown up. He has been a douche always. Re-confirmed with my son and some of the other boys on our hockey team last fall. I wanted to (frank)in punch him in the face that twat.
- Iggysbff

Well what was the (frank)in issue? Did he say hi, how's your wife and my kid? Give us something or you're just a douche calling someone else a douche....you....douche...

Fan of Colburne. I was disappointed at how cheap Calgary got him and Edmonton didn't take a run. He's definitely a big wussy but he's a solid player too. He won't ever live up to his draft pedigree but there's a nhl player in there. Hugefemale dog loved this guy!!!!!

Well the Flames did have more goals than the Oilers soooooo.......


Seriously though....I think Ramo and Hiller are better than Fasth and Scrivens. But lets all be honest folks. Fasth and Scrivens is sooooo much better than Dooby and Labamba. (frank) that's a horrible tandem haha

That was some good banter to read through fellas. You're all a bunch of sweet hearts in my eyes ....other than a couple of you
- The-O-G

Hiller is a great pickup. I was super surprised that he signed in Calgary. Thought he would want a cup over a payday. I think he single handedly takes Calgary out of contention for McDavid, Eichel!

Why didn't the Oilers try to pick up Hiller??
- RazzDazzle

We had both guys signed already.

Id assume mact didnt see it as enough of an upgrade to warrant more dollars.

Hiller has undoubtedly proven more, and won the job back outright when fasth went down last season.
but fasth has shown he can be pretty good too. The season before; hiller didnt even get his job back when he recovered from injury.
Fasth was on fire and was the starter while both were healthy.

His priority was the Leafs blog on Miley Cyrus ... give the guy some slack...
- geta02it

It took you 2 days to compile that....
- whipper334

Haven't written a Leafs blog in almost two weeks, and I put something together for Wednesday's blog, but it was no good so I trashed it. If I don't have anything good to say, I'd rather say nothing

Admitted with Bollig I'm going off of friends that know him and played with/against him....With Cammi...I had first hand accounts.
- Iggysbff

I don' are if he's a douche bag. I've got a second hand account of Crosby being a douche bag. You think that means I wouldn't want him on the Flames?

Very good for a 27th place team. Average at best.
I'd say almost every playoff team had a better D than the flames.
- tmurph

I agree, they were 'Minnesota Wild" good defensively...

Why didn't the Oilers try to pick up Hiller??
- RazzDazzle

Who says they didn't? Plus cap space. We still need a center and to resign Schultz and only 8 million to spend.

I don' are if he's a douche bag. I've got a second hand account of Crosby being a douche bag. You think that means I wouldn't want him on the Flames?
- flamminghead

I had a vendor of mine who met him. Said he was the most politically correct person in the world.

I don' are if he's a douche bag. I've got a second hand account of Crosby being a douche bag. You think that means I wouldn't want him on the Flames?
- flamminghead

According do people here the nhl is just all douches can't say that meeting someone once gives you credibility to immediately write them off

According do people here the nhl is just all douches can't say that meeting someone once gives you credibility to immediately write them off
- Bigern4MVP

I don't really care if a player is a douche too much. As long as they don't think they are 'above' living in Edmonton I don't care. If they do there is no point in even having them on the team.

According do people here the nhl is just all douches can't say that meeting someone once gives you credibility to immediately write them off
- Bigern4MVP

I met a guy at a party who played on the Pens. Won't disclose his name. Said Crosby was a douche but Malkin was a cool guy.