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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
Plind, this one is for you.
The top 10 old time players (retired prior to 1994) who would still be stars in today's game!
BTW, these are all guys that I saw play live.

1. Bobby Orr
Would be the best skater in the league in any era. He looked like a Ferrari running to next a bunch of Hyundais most nights!

2. Gordie Howe
I only saw him at the end of his career, but even then he stood out. Howe was tough and talented enough to succeed in any era.

3. Mike Bossy
Very good skater with one of the nastiest snap shots I ever saw, would be putting up 40+ goals today.

4. Denis Potvin
Excellent skater, physical and superbly talented, he would be an all star in any era.

5. Larry Robinson
At 6'3 215, he'd still be a big man today. Now add solid skating, great skill and world class hockey sense and you get a number one dman.

6. Bobby Clarke
Clarke worked so damn hard that he would succeed in any era. His lack of speed and size probably would keep him from being a superstar today, but he would be a solid Patrice Bergeron type who would get you 15-20 goals and 55-65 points while being a finalist for the Selke.

7. Guy Lafleur
His conditioning habits wouldn't be acceptable today, but the Flower, in his prime, would still be an all star in today's game. He was an excellent skater and his puck skills were world class.

8. Ken Dryden
A huge goalie for his era, Dryden has the size to be successful in todays game. He was excellent at both challenging the shooter and rebound control as well.

9. Bill Barber
Good wheels, great skills and an even greater work ethic makes this a no brainer. Barber would be a top flight 2 way winger in today's game.

10. Gilbert Perreault
Another guy with great wheels and skill, he would be sold number 1/2 center in todays game.

Also in consideration:
Brad Park
Yvan Cournoyer
Serge Savard
Darryl Sittler
Rick Macleish
Peter Stasny

- BiggE


Great stuff! No Bernie?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
4? There were only 2.

- MBFlyerfan


Okay, there were 2 movies, 3 training montages, and 4 fights.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
Plind, this one is for you.
The top 10 old time players (retired prior to 1994) who would still be stars in today's game!
BTW, these are all guys that I saw play live.

1. Bobby Orr
Would be the best skater in the league in any era. He looked like a Ferrari running to next a bunch of Hyundais most nights!

2. Gordie Howe
I only saw him at the end of his career, but even then he stood out. Howe was tough and talented enough to succeed in any era.

3. Mike Bossy
Very good skater with one of the nastiest snap shots I ever saw, would be putting up 40+ goals today.

4. Denis Potvin
Excellent skater, physical and superbly talented, he would be an all star in any era.

5. Larry Robinson
At 6'3 215, he'd still be a big man today. Now add solid skating, great skill and world class hockey sense and you get a number one dman.

6. Bobby Clarke
Clarke worked so damn hard that he would succeed in any era. His lack of speed and size probably would keep him from being a superstar today, but he would be a solid Patrice Bergeron type who would get you 15-20 goals and 55-65 points while being a finalist for the Selke.

7. Guy Lafleur
His conditioning habits wouldn't be acceptable today, but the Flower, in his prime, would still be an all star in today's game. He was an excellent skater and his puck skills were world class.

8. Ken Dryden
A huge goalie for his era, Dryden has the size to be successful in todays game. He was excellent at both challenging the shooter and rebound control as well.

9. Bill Barber
Good wheels, great skills and an even greater work ethic makes this a no brainer. Barber would be a top flight 2 way winger in today's game.

10. Gilbert Perreault
Another guy with great wheels and skill, he would be sold number 1/2 center in todays game.

Also in consideration:
Brad Park
Yvan Cournoyer
Serge Savard
Darryl Sittler
Rick Macleish
Peter Stasny

- BiggE


How about Eddie Shore, Howie Morenz, Cyclone Taylor, One-Eyed Frank McGee, and Auriel Joliat?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:33 AM ET
Great stuff! No Bernie?

- PLindbergh31


Bernie, at 5'10, would be pretty small by today's standards. His stand up style may not work as well either. He'd still be good, but I'm not sure he'd be an all star in today's game.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
How about Eddie Shore, Howie Morenz, Cyclone Taylor, One-Eyed Frank McGee, and Auriel Joliat?
- jmatchett383


Geez, I'm 48, not 84!!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
Bernie, at 5'10, would be pretty small by today's standards. His stand up style may not work as well either. He'd still be good, but I'm not sure he'd be an all star in today's game.
- BiggE


Tough to compare different eras. Athletes take much better care of themselves now.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:37 AM ET
Geez, I'm 48, not 84!!
- BiggE


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
Gene Hart SANG the game. He had a rhythm and a cadence that was musical. You could also tell that he had his mothers talent as a singer as the high notes he hit when the game got exciting or the Flyers SCOOOORED. He sang those words as any singer would.

He knew the game and I still too this day hear him saying "Ruotsalainen" and having no idea what that meant as a young kid at first.

I remember listening to the '87 finals game 7 on the radio with tears in my eyes as he comforted us all in the waning moment of the game. His voice was somber yet upbeat as he praised the team for fighting so hard against a dynasty.

He was the best.

- MBFlyerfan


Well put.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:44 AM ET
Tough to compare different eras. Athletes take much better care of themselves now.
- johndewar


I disagree. No athlete took better care of himself than this guy.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
Bernie, at 5'10, would be pretty small by today's standards. His stand up style may not work as well either. He'd still be good, but I'm not sure he'd be an all star in today's game.
- BiggE


Good points. Might be similar to a Chris Osgood type.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:48 AM ET
Good points. Might be similar to a Chris Osgood type.
- PLindbergh31


Quite possibly
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
I like Luke Schenn being a Flyer, but they should have gotten another asset in return like a second rounder. See there, even though it was not responsible trading it gives you something to talk about. I would rather see Hextall be responsible and do nothing of course. But as far as entertainment goes, its boring as hell. It has to be a beast for guys like Bill to make these interesting articles day in day out when nothing is going on. Props to the Meltz.
- redcoat75

I am sure it is more challenging for Bill to write for Dallas when there are no readers
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
Geez, I'm 48, not 84!!
- BiggE


I know, just pulling your cane.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
Geez, I'm 48, not 84!!
- BiggE


Prove it
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
Prove it
- PhillySportsGuy

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Anyone else have any guesses what was attached to the bumper in MJL's story from yesterday?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
Anyone else have any guesses what was attached to the bumper in MJL's story from yesterday?
- jmatchett383

only the lord saves more than Bernie Parent bumper sticker?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
only the lord saves more than Bernie Parent bumper sticker?
- vejim

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 24 @ 10:02 AM ET
Anyone else have any guesses what was attached to the bumper in MJL's story from yesterday?
- jmatchett383

a no movement clause?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
Anyone else have any guesses what was attached to the bumper in MJL's story from yesterday?
- jmatchett383


A Paul Holmgren Vermont Teddy Bear.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
man, blistering pace here today
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:35 AM ET
man, blistering pace here today
- BulliesPhan87


Best Flyer career: John Druce, Mike Maneluk, Alexandre Daigle, or Mark Greig
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
Anyone else have any guesses what was attached to the bumper in MJL's story from yesterday?
- jmatchett383


What happened? I've been working a lot lately
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 24 @ 10:49 AM ET
Best Flyer career: John Druce, Mike Maneluk, Alexandre Daigle, or Mark Greig
- jmatchett383

James van Upshall
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
Goddamnit I didn't know there was another thread already....I would've posted here instead when I was looking for entertainment at 3 am last night.
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