Don't know if this site is credible but it just reinforces what TIOPS was reporting about offers to Flat Stanley. I'd trade him if this is true. Hope JR doesn't still have his infatuation with Sutter and pay any more then whats reported here.
http://hockeytracker.net/...und-the-rink-arbitration/
- dbell646

I am starting to believe Sutter doesn't want to be here. Again though, we can't trade him right now unless were just trading his RFA rights...so its almost like the only option is sign him...or sign and trade.

IF that's true and he turned down 3.75 for 4 yrs + incentives, I move him. I think that's an insult. Who does he think he is Pascal Dupuis? But seriously no way would I give him a nickel more.
- sammy87

That TIOPS guy uses the same sources as Eklund, I wouldn't worry about it.

I'm onboard for moving Sutter. I just don't think the demand is all that high for his services.

This smells of a 2 year "prove it" deal to me. But, from Sutter's standpoint, how will he get a chance to prove anything behind Sid and Geno? Sound familiar?

I think if the Pens were to put him on the open market and try to do a trade of Sutter for "Asset/Player X", I think you'd be lucky to get a 2nd round pick back or a decent 4th liner.

These trade scenarios involving Sutter, a D prospect, and a high draft pick aren't going to be accepted by the team on the other side of the phone conversation IMO.

Reportedly pens had kap at 6 on their board. He's likely who they were targeting had they obtained nashvilles pick. Funny how that worked out

I thought Dumo struggled in his own end while he was up here. You could see the offensive instincts, but had a heck of a time defending at NHL speed.

Little Ulf had a rough first couple of games in the NHL, but I thought he rebounded nicely. Our resident WB season ticket holder (Reverend Killtaker) said Samuelsson was very good after he returned to WB. I think he said he was their best defensive D down the stretch for the Baby Pens.
- madmike71

Things really clicked for him down here after his brief stint in the burgh. It was really night and day of a difference. His consistency and his confidence really picked up as well. On a couple of occasions Ulf sat next to me when he was in town and I mentioned the same thing to him. Philip got hurt for a bit but when he came back he wasn't at all out of place which was nice.

I think what will benefit him and might help him stick around for a bit is being on a D-Squad that he is already familiar with and has proven cohesiveness with. Guys like Despres, Bortuzzo, Dumoulin, and Harrington. He's played with all those guys in WBS a lot so that will only help in find his groove in camp. If he was walking into unfamiliar territory and line mates, I wouldn't be too confident in him though.

He is a def. wild card come training camp. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.

Things really clicked for him down here after his brief stint in the burgh. It was really night and day of a difference. His consistency and his confidence really picked up as well. On a couple of occasions Ulf sat next to me when he was in town and I mentioned the same thing to him. Philip got hurt for a bit but when he came back he wasn't at all out of place which was nice.

I think what will benefit him and might help him stick around for a bit is being on a D-Squad that he is already familiar with and has proven cohesiveness with. Guys like Despres, Bortuzzo, Dumoulin, and Harrington. He's played with all those guys in WBS a lot so that will only help in find his groove in camp. If he was walking into unfamiliar territory and line mates, I wouldn't be too confident in him though.

He is a def. wild card come training camp. It will be interesting to see what happens with him.
- Reverend Killtaker

My guess is because of his waiver status he stays up at least until maatta gets back

My guess is because of his waiver status he stays up at least until maatta gets back
- dbell646

If he can hold his own...hes a good insurance policy for now. If he can't, he'll clear waivers most likely. If he plays well, then he is either trade bait or a risk with the waiver wire when Maatta is ready.

My guess is because of his waiver status he stays up at least until maatta gets back
- dbell646

He won't make it through waivers. That's a certainty. He'll either be on the roster or he'll be traded.

He won't make it through waivers. That's a certainty. He'll either be on the roster or he'll be traded.
- madmike71

If he gets sent down at the end of camp, he'd most likely clear... most teams aren't in a position to claim someone who they'd have to keep on their NHL roster right from camp, unless their defensemen REALLY suck.

If he gets sent down at the end of camp, he'd most likely clear... most teams aren't in a position to claim someone who they'd have to keep on their NHL roster right from camp, unless their defensemen REALLY suck.
- rival22

I agree to an extent. If you send him back right away then you have the shuffle of so many players going down that no one will make the claim on him. At the same time there are teams, even within our division, that need young puck movers and would love to take one away from us knowing the risk of their own roster changes last minute.

If he gets sent down at the end of camp, he'd most likely clear... most teams aren't in a position to claim someone who they'd have to keep on their NHL roster right from camp, unless their defensemen REALLY suck.
- rival22

You may be right, but I think there's at least a handful of teams that would scoop him up. If he really has no position, they'll trade him for a draft pick or something rather than risk losing him for nothing.

I guess if he's a total mess at camp, it's possible he clears.

I agree to an extent. If you send him back right away then you have the shuffle of so many players going down that no one will make the claim on him. At the same time there are teams, even within our division, that need young puck movers and would love to take one away from us knowing the risk of their own roster changes last minute.
- usethe1-2-2

He's not really known as a puck mover, but he put some good play on tape in the AHL. Plus he was competent in his brief stay up here (after the first two games). Some team would probably take a chance on him simply because of his last name.

He's not really known as a puck mover, but he put some good play on tape in the AHL. Plus he was competent in his brief stay up here (after the first two games). Some team would probably take a chance on him simply because of his last name.
- madmike71

*cough* Rangers *cough*

*cough* Rangers *cough*
- Reverend Killtaker

I'm onboard for moving Sutter. I just don't think the demand is all that high for his services.

This smells of a 2 year "prove it" deal to me. But, from Sutter's standpoint, how will he get a chance to prove anything behind Sid and Geno? Sound familiar?

I think if the Pens were to put him on the open market and try to do a trade of Sutter for "Asset/Player X", I think you'd be lucky to get a 2nd round pick back or a decent 4th liner.

These trade scenarios involving Sutter, a D prospect, and a high draft pick aren't going to be accepted by the team on the other side of the phone conversation IMO.
- 87_71_11_29

I think that's true when talking about Kane or ROR or someone of that ilk. But someone like David Perron, I think that is fair, if not generous.

I didn't realize Nino was a RFA, could be a possible move. I don't think the Wild need a C though with Sutter.

I didn't realize Nino was a RFA, could be a possible move. I don't think the Wild need a C though with Sutter.
- sammy87

Th Wild aren't super impressive down the middle, and there's always the possibility they could try him out at right wing. Its kinda far fetched idea that we'd swap RFAs, but its not inconceivable.

I didn't realize Nino was a RFA, could be a possible move. I don't think the Wild need a C though with Sutter.
- sammy87

I thought the move was Nino for Martin. If it's Nino for Sutter...do that yesterday please haha.

not sure why there's an obsession with Nino... the guy couldnt make the Islanders... got dumped to Minnesota, couldnt find anything there until he had a decent playoffs.

not sure why there's an obsession with Nino... the guy couldnt make the Islanders... got dumped to Minnesota, couldnt find anything there until he had a decent playoffs.
- SuperHenderson13

He had a decent season all around. I think he is beginning to take the steps into becoming what the Islanders thought he would as a 5th overall pick.

Random trade of the day (and when i say random, i mean random)

Letang, Sutter, Pouliot, 1st to WPG for Ladd and Byfuglien

Lines:

Ladd-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Byfuglien
Bennett-Spaling-Dupuis
Comeau-Goc-Downie

The top 2 lines would be nasty to play against.
- cap1681

Haha, yes please!!!

Just read an interesting tid bit. With all the one year deals plus guys like Adams, Martin, and Fleury dropping off the books, the Pens will have an estimated $25M of cap space to work with for 2015.

Here are some of the names potentially on the market next season:

G, Viktor Fasth
LW, Nick Foligno
D, Mike Green
C, David Krejci
G, Antti Niemi
LW, Bobby Ryan
D, Andrej Sekera
LW, Carl Soderberg
C, Jason Spezza
RW, Martin St. Louis
RW, Chris Stewart
RW, Jiri Tlusty
C, Antoine Vermette
RW, Justin Williams

Just read an interesting tid bit. With all the one year deals plus guys like Adams, Martin, and Fleury dropping off the books, the Pens will have an estimated $25M of cap space to work with for 2015.

Here are some of the names potentially on the market next season:

G, Viktor Fasth
LW, Nick Foligno
D, Mike Green
C, David Krejci
G, Antti Niemi
LW, Bobby Ryan
D, Andrej Sekera
LW, Carl Soderberg
C, Jason Spezza
RW, Martin St. Louis
RW, Chris Stewart
RW, Jiri Tlusty
C, Antoine Vermette
RW, Justin Williams
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Underwhelming group for an offseason that we should be pretty busy in. Krejci would look awesome on the third line, but will likely be too expensive for a 3rd C and he'll probably get locked up before the offseason. St. Louis would be an interesting 1 or 2 year signing, but again, will probably be too expensive for what he brings and will likely be locked up before the offseason.

It sucks that we have no goalie under contract past this year because I want no part in Fasth. Old and not good. We really need to pray that we can extend Flower for a slight pay cut as we wait on Jarry.

Obviously Bobby Ryan jumps out, but the bidding war over him that's sure to ensue is going to make him too expensive The only way I see of getting him is the huge gamble of acquiring him at the deadline and extending him before he hits the open market. This will not happen.

Foligno could be a very interesting pick up for our third line with possible second line potential if we can get him for not too much over 3 mil. Maybe like 3.5. Soderberg at like 3/3.5 wouldn't be awful either.

Moral of the story is Kapanen better damn well be ready by next season.

Underwhelming group for an offseason that we should be pretty busy in. Krejci would look awesome on the third line, but will likely be too expensive for a 3rd C and he'll probably get locked up before the offseason. St. Louis would be an interesting 1 or 2 year signing, but again, will probably be too expensive for what he brings and will likely be locked up before the offseason.

It sucks that we have no goalie under contract past this year because I want no part in Fasth. Old and not good. We really need to pray that we can extend Flower for a slight pay cut as we wait on Jarry.

Obviously Bobby Ryan jumps out, but the bidding war over him that's sure to ensue is going to make him too expensive The only way I see of getting him is the huge gamble of acquiring him at the deadline and extending him before he hits the open market. This will not happen.

Foligno could be a very interesting pick up for our third line with possible second line potential if we can get him for not too much over 3 mil. Maybe like 3.5.
- Victoro311

Completely agree. It's really slim pickings. I would probably be ok with a Niemi and Greiss duo but it doesn't sound like cap space will continue to be a huge problem after this season. I think we end up keeping Flower and hope Greiss can be a good complement. Jarry looked quite rocky at the scrimmage...which is just one game and all, but he still is probably 2-3 years away.

I would overpay for Ryan barring we don't make any kind of move for a top 6 wing this season. Even with Kapanen being ready next season, its another year older for Kunitz and Dupuis. So if we can get Ryan for $7.5, I would probably do it. This is all quite far down the road but there's nothing else to talk about haha.

Underwhelming group for an offseason that we should be pretty busy in. Krejci would look awesome on the third line, but will likely be too expensive for a 3rd C and he'll probably get locked up before the offseason. St. Louis would be an interesting 1 or 2 year signing, but again, will probably be too expensive for what he brings and will likely be locked up before the offseason.

It sucks that we have no goalie under contract past this year because I want no part in Fasth. Old and not good. We really need to pray that we can extend Flower for a slight pay cut as we wait on Jarry.

Obviously Bobby Ryan jumps out, but the bidding war over him that's sure to ensue is going to make him too expensive The only way I see of getting him is the huge gamble of acquiring him at the deadline and extending him before he hits the open market. This will not happen.

Foligno could be a very interesting pick up for our third line with possible second line potential if we can get him for not too much over 3 mil. Maybe like 3.5. Soderberg at like 3/3.5 wouldn't be awful either.

Moral of the story is Kapanen better damn well be ready by next season.
- Victoro311

I mentioned it here before, but a guy I'm following is Cam Talbot. Had a real nice season last year. Obviously in a backup role, but I'm interested to see if he can repeat. He's an UFA and you know he'll probably want out of New York.