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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Claude Loiselle let go by Leafs...would be a good pickup for the front office...
- kear20


Just curious as to why if he just got fired from a non playoff team?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
That was talked about yesterday, get with the program

Where did that link go Nitelander?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Claude Loiselle let go by Leafs...would be a good pickup for the front office...
- kear20

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
Claude Loiselle let go by Leafs...would be a good pickup for the front office...
- kear20



noted. anyone and everyone who is semi connected to 1 of the other 29 teams in the NHL would be a great pickup. k.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
nitpicking bro...

garth resigned the guy before free agency started; its not like 12:01 on July 1 and the islanders announced their major signing of Eric Boulton to a $650k deal. He was locking up guys for inexpensive deals to scratch things off his to-do list. again, theyll put him on waivers and/or send him to bridgeport if necessary, he wont be a regular. who is available now that is a fighter and gonna sign for much less than $650k anyway? how much are you looking to save on this deal?

now we are in the business of predicting what would have happened had we not signed 2 guys....

- LetsGoIsles



It wasn't about savings, its about timing of extending a player which has little value on the open market bc goons can be had anytime. And yes I'll predict that if those 2 FA signings didn't happen, yea Snow would sign scrap players again or get fleeced in another trade. Fact be known that Snow's top targets in FA has rejected him like others have......
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:43 AM ET
I agree. How anyone can have a problem with an enforcer who does his job well can actually skate a little who comes cheap and has no problem playing in 15-20 games a year? He is the definition of a 13th/14th forward.
- Vukota


What surprised me about Boulton last year was that he even showed some decent instincts. The kid is a decent skater who goes to the net and created at least an opportunity per game as a result. As our talent pool deepens with the forwards now in place, Boulton may begin to cash in on a few of those.

I had no problem at all with that extension.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
It wasn't about savings, its about timing of extending a player which has little value on the open market bc goons can be had anytime. And yes I'll predict that if those 2 FA signings didn't happen, yea Snow would sign scrap players again or get fleeced in another trade. Fact be known that Snow's top targets in FA has rejected him like others have......
- Ur Not Me

What does that have to do with Boulton? I'm so confused.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
It wasn't about savings, its about timing of extending a player which has little value on the open market bc goons can be had anytime. And yes I'll predict that if those 2 FA signings didn't happen, yea Snow would sign scrap players again or get fleeced in another trade. Fact be known that Snow's top targets in FA has rejected him like others have......
- Ur Not Me



ok...so lets say they dont extend boulton. who do you have your eyes on fill the enforcer role?

edit: im also not gonna even touch on the 2nd part. its beyond totally ridiculous to have a discussion about what would have happened had players not signed. instead of focusing on the fact that snow actually did what a lot of people complain about, those same people complain and what would have happened had what they wanted didnt in fact happen. isles fans are truly a rare breed.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
Extending one his players was a scrap barreling signing? Boulton was great in his role last and you could even make a case given his limited ice time last year he was more effective then any of the regular 4th liners when given a chance to play. As far as if the season started today they would waive him in favor of Gallant goes I read that article and I'm pretty sure it was just one of many options thrown out there by the author and not something that was in motion ( I could be wrong because I don't remember word for word of that article) Also while Gallant was a great story and the kid is a beast his skating was atrocious and it looked like it was a chore just to hit somebody with a check. Boulton is a much better all around player then Gallant. Say what you want about Boulton but there is a reason he is has been in the league for 10 plus years. He plays a small role and he plays it well. Plus he is so cheap that if they truly did need the spot they could waive him and send him down without a problem. Again isn't that what you're looking for when you have a 13th,14th forward?
- Vukota



Is Boulton a goon? YES
Does he have a limited role? YES
Is Boulton replaceable? YES
Do isles have to many F's ? YES

Again its not Boulton, it was the timing, no need for early extension when the type of player he is can be had anytime..
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
What surprised me about Boulton last year was that he even showed some decent instincts. The kid is a decent skater who goes to the net and created at least an opportunity per game as a result. As our talent pool deepens with the forwards now in place, Boulton may begin to cash in on a few of those.

I had no problem at all with that extension.

- keaner17

He's not as goontarded as John Scott or Colton Orr. He's not a good hockey player but he flashes some actual hockey skill now-and-again. I can think of worse guys to dress for 23gms a year.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
It wasn't about savings, its about timing of extending a player which has little value on the open market bc goons can be had anytime. And yes I'll predict that if those 2 FA signings didn't happen, yea Snow would sign scrap players again or get fleeced in another trade. Fact be known that Snow's top targets in FA has rejected him like others have......
- Ur Not Me



So Snow liked what Boulton did for the team last year and extended him a year to play the exact same role this year. What matter is it if he wasn't going to be in demand on the open market? What's the difference if signed him two weeks after the season ended or two days ago? I'm not trying to be a jerk I just don't get what the issue is? If you are worried about a roster spot I could think of at least 3 players who could be waived to free up a spot. Plus what players spot would he be taking up? Who is signing here to be a 13th/14th forward who might play 20 games a year if that? Now if Boulton was a top12 forward then you can make a very strong case for your argument
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
What does that have to do with Boulton? I'm so confused.
- eichiefs9



He mentioned that I could suddenly predict what the FA market would dictate. Has nothing to do w/Boulton, just saying if Snow didn't sign those 2 FA's he'd be desperate bc his original targets have rejected the isles, like others have.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
He's not as goontarded as John Scott or Colton Orr. He's not a good hockey player but he flashes some actual hockey skill now-and-again. I can think of worse guys to dress for 23gms a year.
- eichiefs9

I also recall late last season he made a move around a dman that shocked the hell out of me. It was a dangle and pull kinda move (uh oh) that I would have never thought he'd try let alone be capable of. That's the thing with some of these kids, some of them get caught up in a role but might be capable of so much more. I'm not suggesting he could be a Clark Gillies, but I do think he has the ability to chip in more than most would expect.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
What surprised me about Boulton last year was that he even showed some decent instincts. The kid is a decent skater who goes to the net and created at least an opportunity per game as a result. As our talent pool deepens with the forwards now in place, Boulton may begin to cash in on a few of those.

I had no problem at all with that extension.

- keaner17



I agree. The guy plays the role perfect
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
He mentioned that I could suddenly predict what the FA market would dictate. Has nothing to do w/Boulton, just saying if Snow didn't sign those 2 FA's he'd be desperate bc his original targets have rejected the isles, like others have.
- Ur Not Me

Well I'm lost. I'm bowing out of this one.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
That was talked about yesterday, get with the program

Where did that link go Nitelander?

- Vukota


when I played Catchup I realized I was late to the party.. my bad.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
He mentioned that I could suddenly predict what the FA market would dictate. Has nothing to do w/Boulton, just saying if Snow didn't sign those 2 FA's he'd be desperate bc his original targets have rejected the isles, like others have.
- Ur Not Me


And if Washington didn't cross the Delaware we'd,.... ah wtf are we doing here?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
I also recall late last season he made a move around a dman that shocked the hell out of me. It was a dangle and pull kinda move (uh oh) that I would have never thought he'd try let alone be capable of. That's the thing with some of these kids, some of them get caught up in a role but might be capable of so much more. I'm not suggesting he could be a Clark Gillies, but I do think he has the ability to chip in more than most would expect.
- keaner17



Like I said earlier if you looked at his stats and how much ice time he got he easily out performed Martin, & McDonald. Not saying he should be a regular by any means but he plays the role perfect
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
when I played Catchup I realized I was late to the party.. my bad.
- niteislander

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
ok...so lets say they dont extend boulton. who do you have your eyes on fill the enforcer role?

edit: im also not gonna even touch on the 2nd part. its beyond totally ridiculous to have a discussion about what would have happened had players not signed. instead of focusing on the fact that snow actually did what a lot of people complain about, those same people complain and what would have happened had what they wanted didnt in fact happen. isles fans are truly a rare breed.

- LetsGoIsles


Once again its not about Boulton, geez stop thinking I'm suggesting that the isles should have targeted someone else.

I'm in total agreement and glad isles signed Kumi & Grabo, I endorsed it bc it helps the team, matter of fact, I've gone as far as defending the signing when others fel that the isles overpaid, which was needed to land NHL quality players to sign here.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Like I said earlier if you looked at his stats and how much ice time he got he easily out performed Martin, & McDonald. Not saying he should be a regular by any means but he plays the role perfect
- Vukota

I also remember saying he was no pace to outperform Bailey prior to Bailey's typical late season rise from the ashes.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Well I'm lost. I'm bowing out of this one.
- eichiefs9



its prob better that way but for the sake of keeping isles talk going ill enlighten you.

urnotme, said that boulton was a barrel scraping signing and had garth not signed the 2 russian sensations, the barrel scraping would have continued. he is essentially predicting the future for an even that will never happen.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
Is Boulton a goon? YES
Does he have a limited role? YES
Is Boulton replaceable? YES
Do isles have to many F's ? YES

Again its not Boulton, it was the timing, no need for early extension when the type of player he is can be had anytime..

- Ur Not Me



I like Boulton for what he is.....its good to have a guy like that signed. Hes not an 82 game a year guy.....but he has value
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
And if Washington didn't cross the Delaware we'd,.... ah wtf are we doing here?
- keaner17



eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:58 AM ET
And if Washington didn't cross the Delaware we'd,.... ah wtf are we doing here?
- keaner17

We'd be lacking one hell of a famous painting!
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