I'm honestly laughing so hard at that spilled milk picture I found. It was perfect.
- eichiefs9

If only it had something other than an Obama reference...

If only it had something other than an Obama reference...
- Cptmjl

That's exactly what I googled "thanks obama", the fact that it was a guy crying over a glass of spilled milk was just perfect.

Did we trade for Yandle yet?

Did we trade for Yandle yet?
- jimmc7722

Kane than Bogosian than Yandle. That's the way this is going to go.

Did we trade for Yandle yet?
- jimmc7722

We are holding out for gretzky...

1st off, NO TEAM, NONE are willing to trade off there top 3 defenseman on team, maybe not even there 4th defensemen unless someone is pushing for his spot or player becoming UFA or asking to much money, etc. Plus to even pry away a top 4 Dman would cost teams the moon bc they are in demand. So if a team can improve a position of strength w/a young possible superstar w/out giving up anything major, U PULL THE TRIGGER.

Dal Colle - is only 18yrs old and is a prospect
Bailey - hasn't done anything here and needs a change of scenery
3rd piece - If its anything minor, how does this affect the team?

Plus these 3 possible trade assets would prob not land u a top 3 Dman...
So you have to stop going in circles w/this discussion bc all/most of isles fans know that the team needs D, but newsflash: ITS THE HARDEST THING TO ACQUIRE

get it? got it? GOOD.....
- Ur Not Me

Does adding Evander Kane and his 20 goals make this a playoff team? Or, does it mean the isles lose 5-4 instead of 4-3?

For a salary cap sport with teams over spending year after year, logic would tell you after the arbitration hearings there will be teams looking to shed salary.

Garth's found dmen in the past for second round picks I believe. Wisniewski, and Visnovsky. One would think that type of player can be had without giving up the farm.

You're reading top dmen are hard to come by, but that's referring to the elite of the league. The Weber, Doughty, types. But there's definitely someone out there to be bad.

Unfortunately I have a feeling Garth feels he addressed the PP with TJ Brennan.

Kane than Bogosian than Yandle. That's the way this is going to go.
- Cptmjl

We should trade for Kane and then flip him for Bogosian

We are holding out for gretzky...
- ziggy_skalica

Paulina......

We should trade for Kane and then flip him for Bogosian
- eichiefs9

That's pretty much what a Ranger fan suggested on their thread when referring to Brassard and trading him to Columbus for Johansson. I didn't have it in me to post a reply.

We should trade for Kane and then flip him for Bogosian
- eichiefs9

There is an ongoing and developing thing on the main thread.

Paulina......


- Ur Not Me

I think we've had this conversation but I am a Larionov sisters guy myself.

Does adding Evander Kane and his 20 goals make this a playoff team? Or, does it mean the isles lose 5-4 instead of 4-3?

For a salary cap sport with teams over spending year after year, logic would tell you after the arbitration hearings there will be teams looking to shed salary.

Garth's found dmen in the past for second round picks I believe. Wisniewski, and Visnovsky. One would think that type of player can be had without giving up the farm.

You're reading top dmen are hard to come by, but that's referring to the elite of the league. The Weber, Doughty, types. But there's definitely someone out there to be bad.
Unfortunately I have a feeling Garth feels he addressed the PP with TJ Brennan.
- kindlyrick

I get ur point, right now the team has improved the F position and has added much needed depth. Adding Kane could possibly enhance the chances of isles making the PO's bc he has that ability, but we all know the D wins in PO's and D helps and is needed for this team.

The Wiz trade & Viz trade were given up by the same team who had no use for them anymore, plus last I remembered both those trades hasn't really helped the isles then or now.

Teams that have cap issues are not willing to trade off there better dman, they're looking to trade off the other guy instead to get under the cap
just an example: CHI is prob looking to deal Leddy instead of Oduya, BOS is prob looking to deal McQuaid instead of Boychuk, why bc the other player can possibly be replaced and the player the most teams rather prefer has value to his current team.

That's pretty much what a Ranger fan suggested on their thread when referring to Brassard and trading him to Columbus for Johansson. I didn't have it in me to post a reply.
- Cptmjl

That's a clueless Rags fan bc Johansson is becoming a STUD...

That's a clueless Rags fan bc Johansson is becoming a STUD...
- Ur Not Me

He's actually one of the guys I like over there so I got a good laugh without replying and came back over here.

I get ur point, right now the team has improved the F position and has added much needed depth. Adding Kane could possibly enhance the chances of isles making the PO's bc he has that ability, but we all know the D wins in PO's and D helps and is needed for this team.

The Wiz trade & Viz trade were given up by the same team who had no use for them anymore, plus last I remembered both those trades hasn't really helped the isles then or now.

Teams that have cap issues are not willing to trade off there better dman, they're looking to trade off the other guy instead to get under the cap
just an example: CHI is prob looking to deal Leddy instead of Oduya, BOS is prob looking to deal McQuaid instead of Boychuk, why bc the other player can possibly be replaced and the player the most teams rather prefer has value to his current team.
- Ur Not Me

Ironically both Wisniewski and Visnovsky are better than any dmen on the isles.

Both could play PP and log minutes. Both were great pickups. Those are the type of dmen the isles should be looking at aquiring.

Ironically both Wisniewski and Visnovsky are better than any dmen on the isles.

Both could play PP and log minutes. Both were great pickups.
- kindlyrick

I'm a little confused, so just bc they can log minutes and play the PP means there better that what isles have?

Before I respond back to the bolded part, I just need to here your response...

Ironically both Wisniewski and Visnovsky are better than any dmen on the isles.

Both could play PP and log minutes. Both were great pickups. Those are the type of dmen the isles should be looking at aquiring.
- kindlyrick

This doesn't make too much sense.

I'm a little confused, so just bc they can log minutes and play the PP means there better that what isles have?

Before I respond back to the bolded part, I just need to here your response...
- Ur Not Me

their, than, and hear. Don't get letsgoisles going today.

their, than, and hear. Don't get letsgoisles going today.
- Cptmjl

My bad, not really concentrating on my grammar....

I'm a little confused, so just bc they can log minutes and play the PP means there better that what isles have?

Before I respond back to the bolded part, I just need to here your response...
- Ur Not Me

You said both were traded by the same team who had no use for them. I said ironically both players who werent "usable" on the ducks were top pair dmen on the isles. In other words, the other teams trash was the isles gold.

To further explain, both Wisniewski and Visnovski are PP dmen who could play against other teams top lines. Both are experienced dmen who are more experienced and better dmen than anyone on the isles. (Hamonic isn't a better PP option than either Visnovski or Wisniewski)

This doesn't make too much sense.
- Cptmjl

In what sense? Read my above post. Perhaps that explains better.

their, than, and hear. Don't get letsgoisles going today.
- Cptmjl

They're not there or their. (Sorry I couldn't resist correcting the correction)

Does adding Evander Kane and his 20 goals make this a playoff team? Or, does it mean the isles lose 5-4 instead of 4-3?

For a salary cap sport with teams over spending year after year, logic would tell you after the arbitration hearings there will be teams looking to shed salary.

Garth's found dmen in the past for second round picks I believe. Wisniewski, and Visnovsky. One would think that type of player can be had without giving up the farm.

You're reading top dmen are hard to come by, but that's referring to the elite of the league. The Weber, Doughty, types. But there's definitely someone out there to be bad.

Unfortunately I have a feeling Garth feels he addressed the PP with TJ Brennan.
- kindlyrick

Oh come on. He made the move for Boyle, so you feel that his plan B was Brennan?
As for the idea that top four dmen can be had..that's a big maybe. We're not seeing a lot of action around the league in terms of top 4 dmen moving from team to team and they are in constant demand.

At this stage we definitely need a top four dman, but I'm pretty confident this team is playoff material even without such a move. I'm not saying this is the defensive corps I want to roll through the season with, but I think we are afforded the luxury of time as opposing to giving the other team all the leverage in trade discussions. Let's just sit back and see what happens.

Does adding Evander Kane and his 20 goals make this a playoff team? Or, does it mean the isles lose 5-4 instead of 4-3?

For a salary cap sport with teams over spending year after year, logic would tell you after the arbitration hearings there will be teams looking to shed salary.

Garth's found dmen in the past for second round picks I believe. Wisniewski, and Visnovsky. One would think that type of player can be had without giving up the farm.

You're reading top dmen are hard to come by, but that's referring to the elite of the league. The Weber, Doughty, types. But there's definitely someone out there to be bad.

Unfortunately I have a feeling Garth feels he addressed the PP with TJ Brennan.
- kindlyrick

With the D men rumored to be available, I don't think that acquiring just one top 4 D man puts this team where most fans hope they will be. It's a move that needs to be made and I would hate Garth once again if we go into the season without a legit D man but for someone to say trading for Evander Kane isn't necessary you're wrong. When you have a deal like this on the table you don't just pass it up (as if EK rumors were true).

Trading Bailey, del colle, and a MINOR 3rd piece for Evander Kane is a no brainer. Anybody who compares a Kane deal to a Vanek deal is moronic. Vanek a rental player--Kane under contract. Simple as that. Acquiring Kane with this deal still gives us enough pieces to move to acquire a top D man. Imagine then trading maybe Grabner and Lee for a solid d man??

Kane-Tavares-Okposo
Nelson-Grabo-Kulemin
Strome-Neilsen-Conacher
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
(Mcdonald, Boulton)

Boychuck??-Lubo
Hamonic-deHann
Reinhart-Brennan
(Hickey, Carkner)

Halak
Johnson

THAT is a contender. And still not too far of a stretch...

They're not there or their. (Sorry I couldn't resist correcting the correction)
- kindlyrick

touche