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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 2:44 PM ET

- BINGO!

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
kreider.. MAX contract he has glue
- glove_was_stuck

Chris Kreider IS the New York Rangers
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 2:53 PM ET
Chris Kreider IS the New York Rangers
- sbroads24


and more

so much more
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
2 years ago everyone was saying how ROR would have been over paid at 5m bc hes not a 1st line Center, more a 3rd line C. Now everyone is piling on the Avs saying they were stupid for doing not something that the vast majority said would have been a terrible contract back then.

If Feaster didnt set his salary at 6.5m this would have been a non issue. Flames basicaly set the ability for him to cash in again with a blank cheque

Yes, the Avs di botch this one by holding a gun to his head low balling him to under the 2 year 7m bridge deal that Duchene signed at the same time. Now they are paying the price for both the offersheet and low balling him back then.

- DDM-Coga

This is HB. Don't you know that everyone knows everything in hindsight? Lol.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 21 @ 3:04 PM ET
How? As in the blog the rules are stated what he can use as comparatives. None of his comparitive's are getting over 6.
- Iggysbff


That is not true. He got 64 points. His compararables would be anyone in that range. Toews, St.Louis, Vanek, Landeskog, Spezza, Tavares, Eberle and Iginla are all within his range in terms of points. Half these guys make 6+ mill a season and the ones who don't are just under.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:12 PM ET
This is HB. Don't you know that everyone knows everything in hindsight? Lol.
- Iggysbff


Selective Memory at its worse.
I was pissed at the contract back then, and I will be pissed about what he will be ruled in arbitration bc either way it will be his last season as an Avalanche.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
That is not true. He got 64 points. His compararables would be anyone in that range. Toews, St.Louis, Vanek, Landeskog, Spezza, Tavares, Eberle and Iginla are all within his range in terms of points. Half these guys make 6+ mill a season and the ones who don't are just under.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Young guys in the 25 year range signing extentions either off their ELC or 2 year bridge while hitting over 60points

Landeskog 5.5m
Tavares 5.5m
Seguin 5.7m
Benn 5.5m
Skinner 5.7m
Duchene 6.0m
Wheeler 5.6m
E Kane 5.5m

I think there is a lot more compariables to him hitting b/w 5.5m-6m rather than the over 6.5m mark
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
That is not true. He got 64 points. His compararables would be anyone in that range. Toews, St.Louis, Vanek, Landeskog, Spezza, Tavares, Eberle and Iginla are all within his range in terms of points. Half these guys make 6+ mill a season and the ones who don't are just under.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Again....

He cannot compare to anyone that signed a ufa contract. So he is not comparing to iginla, Spezza, Vanek, Toews or MSL. Guys he is allowed to compare against that signed comparable RFA contracts are Hall, Duchene, Landeskog, Seguin, Eberle, Nuge, Landy, Skinner etc....all who make 6 mill or less.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Think you guys are overestimating what Kreider would get. My guess is more around 2.5.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:27 PM ET
This is HB. Don't you know that everyone knows everything in hindsight? Lol.
- Iggysbff

Ranger71
New York Rangers
Location: The not so great state of, NJ
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
They'll have no problem getting all 3, plus J. Moore for around 12m. Brassard is on crack if he thinks he's getting that. He'll be lucky to get 4.5.
Ranger71
New York Rangers
Location: The not so great state of, NJ
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
Breaking: Arbiter awards Ryan O'Reilly to the New York Islanders for Eric Boulton and a 6 month supply of gently used asbestos from the Nassau Coliseum. (e4)
- eichiefs9

I thought that place was state of the art?
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 3:32 PM ET

- glove_was_stuck


Looks fake. You'd think some of the bystanders would at least turn their heads to look. None of them even flinched.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
Again....

He cannot compare to anyone that signed a ufa contract. So he is not comparing to iginla, Spezza, Vanek, Toews or MSL. Guys he is allowed to compare against that signed comparable RFA contracts are Hall, Duchene, Landeskog, Seguin, Eberle, Nuge, Landy, Skinner etc....all who make 6 mill or less.

- Iggysbff


Ek's wording and subsequently yours is incorrect. He cannot compare to UFA contracts, but he can still compare to those players who have signed them. Vanek was at 7.1m as a RFA. Toews was at 6.3m as a RFA.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
Ek's wording and subsequently yours is incorrect. He cannot compare to UFA contracts, but he can still compare to those players who have signed them. Vanek was at 7.1m as a RFA. Toews was at 6.3m as a RFA.
- Antilles

Yes, their old contracts, not their current ones..
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Yes, their old contracts, not their current ones..
- Iggysbff


Old contracts still allowed as comparison. And 6.3m is still Toews current contract.
xcheckmajor
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jul 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
Kreider will not get over 3M. He was still considered a rookie last year being his first full NHL season. He can not use UFA signings as comparables because he is restricted. His numbers are okay, not spectacular. The only real point that benefits him is his value to his own team, the Rangers do pretty well when he's in the lineup and generally win when he contributes on the scoresheet. Beyond that, Kreider has not established and concrete consistent production. I think he will be awarded $2.25 - $2.75M.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:46 PM ET
Kreider has asked for 2.8, Rangers have counted for with 1.9 or 2.2. This all via Freidman's twitter profile.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
I thought that place was state of the art?
- Ranger71

No, it's not particularly technologically advanced. The cell service isn't even strong enough for our fans to google how many periods are in a hockey game.

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
Isn't Reimer arbitration case on the 28th?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
Kreider has asked for 2.8, Rangers have counted for with 1.9 or 2.2. This all via Freidman's twitter profile.


- tomburton99


Oh. 2.6
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
"WHAT THE (frank)!?! Why is my mirror (frank)ing sideways!?"
- YzermanIsTheMan



woman driver?



ah the glare of the sun.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Isn't Reimer arbitration case on the 28th?
- zazzle


OMG I cannot wait!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Old contracts still allowed as comparison. And 6.3m is still Toews current contract.
- Antilles


but im sure being signed under the old CBA has some effect on them too.
Since they changed RFA rules under the new one (compensation etc).
Toews and Vanek did sign theirs right off of their ELC, over paying the first couple years so its on par or a steal near the end of the contract. So the bridge deal strategy is off the table, ROR got his "bridge" from the Flames.

Also Vanek scored 40 goals the year he signed his offersheet and Toews just won a conn smythe and a cup for the team he captained.

I dont think a 28 goal season and a Lady Byng holds as much as weight as those 2
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
but im sure being signed under the old CBA has some effect on them too.
Since they changed RFA rules under the new one (compensation etc).

Also Vanek scored 40 goals the year he signed his offersheet and Toews just won a conn smythe and a cup for the team he captained.

I dont think a 28 goal season and a Lady Byng holds as much as weight as those 2

- DDM-Coga


Losing 2 top 6 players within a year is not good management,
no matter the reasons.
They should have just given him 6.5 and be done with it.
They might save a mil, but lose the impact player.
Not that I give a damn, of course.


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