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dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 6:55 PM ET
Where do you get your data?

I get my data from the play by play, shift/TOI tables, and event summaries that are posted on NHL.com for every game. You can find these pages by going to a box score for a game at NHL.com and clicking on the links under "Official Game Reports".


http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/faq.php

Data sources

Raw data for NHL statistics comes from the NHL, largely from each game's play-by-play and shift reports. Here's an example play-by-play report and shift report. Raw data for Olympics stats and World Junior Championship stats is from the IIHF. Raw data for CHL stats is from the three CHL leagues.



http://www.extraskater.com/about

- Ryan_Wilson

Thank you
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 6:55 PM ET
Where do you get your data?

I get my data from the play by play, shift/TOI tables, and event summaries that are posted on NHL.com for every game. You can find these pages by going to a box score for a game at NHL.com and clicking on the links under "Official Game Reports".


http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/faq.php

Data sources

Raw data for NHL statistics comes from the NHL, largely from each game's play-by-play and shift reports. Here's an example play-by-play report and shift report. Raw data for Olympics stats and World Junior Championship stats is from the IIHF. Raw data for CHL stats is from the three CHL leagues.



http://www.extraskater.com/about

- Ryan_Wilson

Thank you
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:00 PM ET
The Pens should have fought for a second round pick instead of acquiring Nick Spalling. He might work hard and have the ability to play all three positions, but he isn't that good of a player. He isn't worth anything north of 1.5 to me.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 21 @ 7:02 PM ET
The Pens should have fought for a second round pick instead of acquiring Nick Spalling. He might work hard and have the ability to play all three positions, but he isn't that good of a player. He isn't worth anything north of 1.5 to me.
- Oneonta Penguin


what % chance do you think that player has of being better than Spaling?
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 7:07 PM ET
The Pens should have fought for a second round pick instead of acquiring Nick Spalling. He might work hard and have the ability to play all three positions, but he isn't that good of a player. He isn't worth anything north of 1.5 to me.
- Oneonta Penguin


A 2nd round pick isn't worth much though. At least you get a proven player with Spaling to aid in your depth issues. What is the purpose of a 2nd?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 7:12 PM ET
The Pens should have fought for a second round pick instead of acquiring Nick Spalling. He might work hard and have the ability to play all three positions, but he isn't that good of a player. He isn't worth anything north of 1.5 to me.
- Oneonta Penguin

Good thing you're not an NHL gm
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:23 PM ET
The Pens should have fought for a second round pick instead of acquiring Nick Spalling. He might work hard and have the ability to play all three positions, but he isn't that good of a player. He isn't worth anything north of 1.5 to me.
- Oneonta Penguin


31.1% of second round players have played more than 100 games. (Per Adam Gretz)
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 7:33 PM ET

OK Gunner, you don't like Spalling. We get it. Stempniak was not very physical. Think playoffs, Gunner. Playoffs.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jul 21 @ 7:52 PM ET
A 2nd round pick isn't worth much though. At least you get a proven player with Spaling to aid in your depth issues. What is the purpose of a 2nd?
- usethe1-2-2


Agreed. Waiting for approx. 4 years to see if someone can reach the NHL isn't going to help now. That being said, a 2nd round pick included with Spailing and Hornquist would of been pretty cool.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jul 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
Agreed. Waiting for approx. 4 years to see if someone can reach the NHL isn't going to help now. That being said, a 2nd round pick included with Spailing and Hornquist would of been pretty cool.
- penguins-4-life


hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 21 @ 8:10 PM ET
OK Gunner, you don't like Spalling. We get it. Stempniak was not very physical. Think playoffs, Gunner. Playoffs.
- powerhouse


Spaling isn't physical, either.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
Stick him with Sid, get him 60 points, and trade him at the deadline
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
Spaling isn't physical, either.
- hardnosed


OK, I checked it out and that is the case, sorry.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 8:41 PM ET
Stick him with Sid, get him 60 points, and trade him at the deadline
- drummer829

Depends on your definition of physical I guess. Looks like most his goals are scored in tight. I think you have to be physical to play in there.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jul 21 @ 8:53 PM ET
Depends on your definition of physical I guess. Looks like most his goals are scored in tight. I think you have to be physical to play in there.
- dbell646


Aggressive and physical are somehow tied together. Two separate qualities with the former being a better quality.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 21 @ 9:01 PM ET
Depends on your definition of physical I guess. Looks like most his goals are scored in tight. I think you have to be physical to play in there.
- dbell646


If Sid could make dupuis and gibbons look like 1st liners, he could do the same with spaling.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM ET
Question to everyone...Who would you rather have right now on your 3rd line? Matt Cooke at 2.5M, or Spaling at 2M?(I already know Bartley's answer)
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jul 21 @ 9:26 PM ET
Question to everyone...Who would you rather have right now on your 3rd line? Matt Cooke at 2.5M, or Spaling at 2M?(I already know Bartley's answer)
- cap1681


Spaling. Youth, salary. Untapped guy-er.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 21 @ 9:27 PM ET
Looks like most his goals are scored in tight. I think you have to be physical to play in there.
- dbell646


According to the heat charts, same thing applies in regards to Brandon Sutter and Brian Gibbons. Are they physical?



Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
According to the heat charts, same thing applies in regards to Brandon Sutter and Brian Gibbons. Are they physical?
- hardnosed


Sutter doesn't go all out like Gibbons and Spaling do. Sutter isn't aggressive, it's like he expects his limited skills to work for him. Spaling and Gibbons work for it. I'll take 10 of them all day long to work next to Crosby and Malkin.

EDIT: It starts down low. Some kids have Dads who've played pretty high up and expect that kid to be on the top line and number one in a shootout. Most coaches go along with this joke. Sutter reminds me of these kids. Nothing beats work ethic with a bit of skill. Never has, never will.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:13 PM ET
Wow, Rossi out as Penguins beat writer.

http://t.co/YHYJhAsLFG
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:17 PM ET
What is the deal with Spaling & Sutter's contracts? Are they resigning with us or what?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:22 PM ET
What is the deal with Spaling & Sutter's contracts? Are they resigning with us or what?
- joescullz


Well Spaling went to arbitration, which the hearings start next week. Sutter did not, so he has til December 1st to sign a contract, or he can't play this season.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:22 PM ET
Wow, Rossi out as Penguins beat writer.

http://t.co/YHYJhAsLFG

- cap1681

Im lost. Did he get into trouble to get taken off the beat? He mentions twice in his blog about not singling anyone out.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:23 PM ET
Wow, Rossi out as Penguins beat writer.

http://t.co/YHYJhAsLFG

- cap1681


Dejan for a subscription (frick) website. Rossi for something else??? Ryan...pounce!

Sign of the times I reckon. Someone can start "just" blogging and end up with a page and viewership. Might not be a bad thing either.
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