More of this this offseason than the last...we'll be in for a doozy of a 2015 offseason if this keeps trending
- Deeps27

theres still a pretty big IF there

Ther's that glimmer of talent Franson showed infrequently last year that will just tease another GM enough to think they can get more out of him...deployed correctly he can be a value to a team, but not with Rielly/Gardiner on the roster in the offensive roles. 4/5 somewhere else and PP guy. Not a fit in TO anymore, especially after the blood spilled last two offseasons.
- Deeps27

The guy just gets completely exposed by any player with half-decent speed. That's a problem for a defenseman, a big problem. Having a long reach is great but isn't something to be relied upon completely which he does. His positioning isnt AS bad as it was when he got here but it's still not up to par either.

Franson needs to be bottom pairing where the speed suits him better and he can use his one tool, an accurate shot, to beat some third liners.

wearing a visor has nothing to so with shooting % while a player is on the ice.
the league average is like 8% or something... he was 15% or something like that iirc. thats like double the nhl average.

this is not rocket science.. things return to the mean.. a Visor does not affect that

for whatever reason...during that short season.. puck went in while he was on the ice...it happens. Thats why stats are great you can suss this stuff out... and realize he sucks and dont bother resigning him
- senstroll

This is the point I am making, to me the whole points of stats should be to look deeper into the highs and lows and find root causes. Maybe there was a contributing factor to the high shooting % that can be replicated to help keep it in higher range for an extend period. Instead of just accepting that everything must regress...look for the root cause and exploit it if possible.

This, in a nutshell, is the problem with Leafs fans.

Fraser was a fantastic 6th-7th defenceman.

He was a mean S.O.B.

He wasn't afraid to drop the gloves. He wasn't afraid to block shots. He wasn't afraid to sweep the front porch.

He quietly and happily ate popcorn in the pressbox when he didn't dress.

He could reliably play 12 minutes a night against the other team's 3rd and 4th lines.

And he did all that for about a million bucks a year.

But he wasn't good enough to make the all-star team, so he must have sucked.

Remember how we ran Hal Gill out of town?

It's the stupidity that unites us all.

P.S. Of course, after he had his head squished, he wasn't the same player. So I'm not calling for the return of Fraser.
- Atomic Wedgie

Aren't you the one who laments the glorification of 3rd liners on a near daily basis?

Alec Brownscombe ‏@MapleLeafsHS 1m
Leafs fielded some interest in Lupul but felt 25 goals for $5.25 million is pretty good value nowadays, per @FriedgeHNIC

Aren't you the one who laments the glorification of 3rd liners on a near daily basis?

- Feeling Glucky?

I wasn't going to say, hmmm does Komarov ring a bell?

that season Fraser had the highest on ice sh% in the league .. which in turn gave him a good +/- Leaf fans loved him ... once that lucky streak returned to normal ....you could see how bad a player he was.

we should never speak of him again
- senstroll

What stat are we talking about?

Shot percentage?

yup, i think its going to be

phaneuf gardiner
rielly robidas
granberg polak

with a cheap d-man as the 7th, depending on what nonis gets for franson
- Dozzer

Trade him at the deadline or mid-season. Better return and gives time to see how he does and how the kids develop

Alec Brownscombe ‏@MapleLeafsHS 1m
Leafs fielded some interest in Lupul but felt 25 goals for $5.25 million is pretty good value nowadays, per @FriedgeHNIC
- gravyface

Leafs only secondary scoring aside from Kadri.

Alec Brownscombe ‏@MapleLeafsHS 1m
Leafs fielded some interest in Lupul but felt 25 goals for $5.25 million is pretty good value nowadays, per @FriedgeHNIC
- gravyface

well obviously the teams that were interested felt the same thing.

This, in a nutshell, is the problem with Leafs fans.

Fraser was a fantastic 6th-7th defenceman.

He was a mean S.O.B.

He wasn't afraid to drop the gloves. He wasn't afraid to block shots. He wasn't afraid to sweep the front porch.

He quietly and happily ate popcorn in the pressbox when he didn't dress.

He could reliably play 12 minutes a night against the other team's 3rd and 4th lines.

And he did all that for about a million bucks a year.

But he wasn't good enough to make the all-star team, so he must have sucked.

Remember how we ran Hal Gill out of town?

It's the stupidity that unites us all.

P.S. Of course, after he had his head squished, he wasn't the same player. So I'm not calling for the return of Fraser.
- Atomic Wedgie

well said .. serviceable until injured

Aren't you the one who laments the glorification of 3rd liners on a near daily basis?

- Feeling Glucky?

I'm the one who laments people not recognizing guys for the roles they play.

Komarov - 4th liner who doesn't really make a difference. So quit expecting him to win the Leafs a Stanley Cup.

Fraser - 3rd pairing guy who doesn't really make a difference. So quit criticizing him for not winning the Leafs a Stanley Cup.

Much like Gauthier, you really need to work on keeping up with the play, Glucky.

Leafs only secondary scoring aside from Kadri.
- LeafMan

Komarov is ready to explode offensively.

I wasn't going to say, hmmm does Komarov ring a bell?
- LeafMan

Keep it up, beeyotch, and I'll ring your bell.

exactly.


- big_dion

this is a beautiful thing.

kuli grabo probably will both have great years since opposition D will focus on the JT line.

I wasn't going to say, hmmm does Komarov ring a bell?
- LeafMan

Not that I disagree with him.

By no means was Fraser as good as his +/- suggested, but he was solid defensively, covered Franson's ass, and was a heart & soul kinda guy.

Komarov is ready to explode offensively.
- AdamFrench

Damn right. the Russian, Estonian, Finnish rocket

Not that I disagree with him.

By no means was Fraser as good as his +/- suggested, but he was solid defensively, covered Franson's ass, and was a heart & soul kinda guy.
- Feeling Glucky?

intangibles. nice.

Komarov is ready to explode offensively.
- AdamFrench

If you mean in the same way I'm ready to explode after a night of eating deep-fried food and drinking beer, then yes, I agree with the above statement.

this is a beautiful thing.

kuli grabo probably will both have great years since opposition D will focus on the JT line.
- Dozzer

57 pts thats my guess. -gbov

What stat are we talking about?

Shot percentage?
- Atomic Wedgie

What is on-ice shooting percentage?

You’re already familiar with a player’s regular shooting percentage, which is a basic stat that most fans understand well. Shooting percentage is simply the percentage of shots on net taken by a player that result in a goal. A player who takes 300 shots and scores 30 goals is shooting 10 percent. That would be better than the league average, which over the last several seasons is right about 9 percent.

On-ice shooting percentage is essentially the same concept, but with an important twist: It counts all shots taken at the opponent’s net when a player is on the ice, including those by his teammates. It’s a measure of how successful a team is at converting its shots with a certain player on the ice, whether or not the player is the one doing the shooting.

this is what I am talking about.
kadri had a really high on ice sh% in the 48 game season... which he ended up getting a lot of points.. as we saw....as predicted..he dropped a lot.. as the OIsh% dropped to a more normal number

The Leafs may be in the market for a offensive winger to play on their second line that would allow David Clarkson to play more of a two-way role on their third line
- mikeinbuffalo

I apologize if this has already been covered, but in my humble opinion, putting Clarkson on the third line is a huge, huge mistake.

Simply put, if he doesn't score close to 20 this year, the rest of his time in Toronto (however long that is) is going to be excruciatingly painful. Fans will not tolerate him being here and making that much cake to play on the 3rd line.

They need to put him on the 2nd line to start the season, 1st PP unit, and pray to the hockey gods that he finds some sorta magic.

There is no alternative.

Komarov is ready to explode offensively.
- AdamFrench

It's his braking that needs work

@mirtle: Was told early in weekend that Leafs would settle in $3.25-million range. Same source said Franson would then be dealt, so we'll see.

@mirtle: Was told early in weekend that Leafs would settle in $3.25-million range. Same source said Franson would then be dealt, so we'll see.
- MCharisma91

we can only hope fellas.

2nd round pick

prospect

whatever il take it.