After the lockout shortened season, everyone in here wanted to have Fransons children and lock him up long term. Now everyone wants to dump him for a bag of pucks
- TonkaPhaneuf

Define "everyone"

I would say that the hit numbers are inflated, but I have no doubt he was one of the hit leaders on the team. It's funny because the previous season, people generally liked his play, but moaned about him not being physical enough for a big player. The guy then goes out and becomes one of the more physical D on the team...but now he sucks defensively all the while ignoring the fact that whole team sucked in that department.
- vermie22

Gunnar, Morgan and Jake....not hard to be one of the more physical guys

Yep. We have the most impatient fans in hockey, as seen here though.
- jerseyleaf

he's played over 300 games and is turning 27

his development stage is over.

agreed.. terrible d-man

reasonable if paired with a defensive guy.. but he wants to be paid like a second pairing guy and he simply isnt up to par to that job
- Dozzer

Im with ya

Bailey for Franson
- eichiefs9

I'll drive Cody there myself

Im with ya
- PinkSock

i'd be fine with him as a 2.5 million bottom pairing / 2nd PP guy

but after this season he is going to look for 4.5 million plus.. let someone else make the mistake

-20

i hope the leafs trade franson

if not i sadly feel they will bump rielly down to the 3rd pairing with polak.

which could be nice since hes still so young..but, id rather rielly play with robidas personally.

Define "everyone"
- AdamFrench

I realize 'everyone' is a strong word. I take it back and switch it to alot, or most, or the general consesus was that we had to get him signed and people were thinking it wasnt possibleto get him and Naz signed. He defiantely got alot more after that season than now

Gunnar, Morgan and Jake....not hard to be one of the more physical guys
- PinkSock

If he could hold onto the puck, he wouldn't have to skate into the folks who dispossess him.

I'm not going to say hit.... we all know that the hit counters at the ACC are VERY generous

i hope the leafs trade franson

if not i sadly feel they will bump rielly down to the 3rd pairing with polak.

which could be nice since hes still so young..but, id rather rielly play with robidas personally.
- big_dion

I could see him getting shopped at the deadline, some PP insurance for a team looking to go deep.

Gunnar, Morgan and Jake....not hard to be one of the more physical guys
- PinkSock

Gunnar and Jake definitely, Morgan actually impressed with his strength. Not a hitter by any means, but very good at squeezing a guy into a pin along the boards, especially at his age.

i'd be fine with him as a 2.5 million bottom pairing / 2nd PP guy

but after this season he is going to look for 4.5 million plus.. let someone else make the mistake
- Dozzer

I agree, I can see why he wants that though, guys like Kulikov getting big bucks, I think the deal was made so he can be shipped out with out much of an issue..hope its sooner then later

Franson has 322 NHL games and a couple seasons in the AHL
- PinkSock

He wouldnt be the first, late blooming defenseman in the league.He has shown some promise ,and its up to him now if he inks a big money deal at the end of this season or not

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Kadri and Franson for O'Reilly.

3.3 is tradable range

good good

*taps fingers together*
- Dozzer

I think so too...

i hope the leafs trade franson

if not i sadly feel they will bump rielly down to the 3rd pairing with polak.

which could be nice since hes still so young..but, id rather rielly play with robidas personally.
- big_dion

Agree...Leafs don't really have much use for Franson right now. Plenty of other guys that can gather points on the backend.

thats not even true..

once decent season with fraser basically covering his ass defensively, otherwise, a routinely healthy scratch before then

he was moved as compensation for a 3 million dollar salary dump

3 million.. thats it.
- Dozzer

Fraser didn't cover $hit.

In short, I'm not ready to give up on Cody quite yet.

Define "everyone"
- AdamFrench

Garnie and Adam French.

Agree...Leafs don't really have much use for Franson right now. Plenty of other guys that can gather points on the backend.
- RickJames77

phaneuf and gardiner
rielly and robidas
granberg and polak

thats what leafs should be going with to start if they move franson

if not i think were goona see

phaneuf-gardiner
robidas-franson
rielly-polak
granberg

Gunnar and Jake definitely, Morgan actually impressed with his strength. Not a hitter by any means, but very good at squeezing a guy into a pin along the boards, especially at his age.
- vermie22

He broke the standing jump record at the combine..his leg strength is unreal 60 inch vertical

It's upsetting that Franson is even viewed as a point producing Dman IMO, though maybe Nonis is making a brilliant move by somewhat 'giving' in to this, giving him 3.3m which has the appearance of recognizing his 'talent' so as to increase his trade value.

phaneuf and gardiner
rielly and robidas
granberg and polak

thats what leafs should be going with to start if they move franson

if not i think were goona see

phaneuf-gardiner
robidas-franson
rielly-polak
granberg
- big_dion

your assuming we get nothing back for Franson?

He broke the standing jump record at the combine..his leg strength is unreal 60 inch vertical


- PinkSock

White boy can jump.

As I said in the other blog, Carlyle is set in his ways of putting Franson with Phanuef on the 1st PP unit, every PP with those two together has resulted in a 2 on 1 against shorthanded.

Was a great chance for extended ice time for Gardiner and Rielly but it is looking as the same old garbage. He needs to be moved for the growth of the other two.
- LeafMan

I long for the days - yearn in fact - for a coach that can come to the conclusion on his own that having a Phaneuf/Rielly Franson/Gardiner (or vice versa) PP1 and PP2 is the way to go.

It doesn't seem like rocket science to figure out mobile puck-movers work well in that type of situation with guys with big shots...which I hope no one is taking away from either Phaneuf or Franson despite whatever other warts their games have.

It just makes too much sense.

Fun fact: This arb award is still less thatn AAV of Jeff Finger's Leafs contract...