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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 21 @ 10:11 AM ET
Poor trolling attempt.
- bixll

The guy cheers for a team that had two forwards with more then 40 points
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:11 AM ET
What is wrong with Bailey? Every Isles fan wants to get rid of him.
- JVR_42_PK81

The honest answer is he just hasn't worked out particularly great here. There is untapped potential there that could end up seeing him be a steal for the team that get's him, depending on the trade.

His advanced numbers are good and he can fill a 3rd line role really well, with the ability to fill in on the second line as needed. If Carlyle can find a way to keep him consistent, he's quite easily a good second line player. Sometimes he just looks disinterested.

Oh and he frequently passes up perfect opportunities to shoot by making one more pass that generally results in nothing.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
I seem to remember him being top in the league in hits 2 seasons ago also.
- jerseyleaf


hits are a terrible stat

1: they are counted and tabulated differently in each arena (the leafs are always near the top)

2: franson gives the puck away, gets a glancing hit in, and pads that stat

look at franson's giveaways.. he's brutal
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
So where are we trading Franson?
- CanadianBodmon

I believe franson is going is going to stick this year

Phaneuf Morgan jake robidas polak

Take franson out of the equation and you need 2 dmen to round out the d corps

http://www.capgeek.com/fr...osition_id=D&fa_type_id=2

That's what's left
Of the guys who made 1m+ from this list
How many are noticeable upgrades
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:12 AM ET

- LeafMan

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
The problem is if he has a decent season and the Leafs are poised to make the playoffs then trading him is going to be a tough sell.
- golfingsince

I don't think you have to worrt about that
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
I believe franson is going is going to stick this year

Phaneuf Morgan jake robidas polak

Take franson out of the equation and you need 2 dmen to round out the d corps

http://www.capgeek.com/fr...osition_id=D&fa_type_id=2

That's what's left
Of the guys who made 1m+ from this list
How many are noticeable upgrades

- MTL1


you also thought franson was gonna get 4 million, and the leafs were gonna walk away
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
I don't think you have to worrt about that
- rangerdanger94


It's late July ! The OctoboCup is right around the corner.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
hits are a terrible stat

1: they are counted and tabulated differently in each arena (the leafs are always near the top)

2: franson gives the puck away, gets a glancing hit in, and pads that stat

look at franson's giveaways.. he's brutal

- Dozzer

I find it funny people want to pair him with Polak, two right hand shots that play the right side exclusively. Then you have those that want him paired with Gardiner, it didn't work with those two before, it was a disaster, hey let's try it again, so that brings him up to the top pair, yet again, not a fit, he just does not fit anywhere in this current lineup.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
I believe franson is going is going to stick this year

Phaneuf Morgan jake robidas polak

Take franson out of the equation and you need 2 dmen to round out the d corps

http://www.capgeek.com/fr...osition_id=D&fa_type_id=2

That's what's left
Of the guys who made 1m+ from this list
How many are noticeable upgrades

- MTL1


He'll play unless they can find the right trade. I think they'd like to move him for a LH d'man so Phaneuf can stay on his preferred RH side.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
move him right before the season starts to a team who feels they still need to shore up D
- Dozzer


not many teams are willing or are in position to take on $3.5 million at that point though. i'd say it's far more likely in-season.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
Tavares will go to Buffalo (if he leaves NYI at all) IMO
- walshyleafsfan


Moulson, Gionta, Gorges...Buffalo is the new hot spot!
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 10:16 AM ET
you also thought franson was gonna get 4 million, and the leafs were gonna walk away
- GardinerExpress

If you check back to yesterday
I thought they would settle at 3.6 and avoid arb
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 10:16 AM ET
hits are a terrible stat

1: they are counted and tabulated differently in each arena (the leafs are always near the top)

2: franson gives the puck away, gets a glancing hit in, and pads that stat

look at franson's giveaways.. he's brutal

- Dozzer


Look at Chara, Kieth, Karalsonn, Subbans give aways. Two things they all have in common. They have all won a Norris in the past 5 years. 2 they were all up there in the giveaway stats.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:16 AM ET
hits are a terrible stat

1: they are counted and tabulated differently in each arena (the leafs are always near the top)

2: franson gives the puck away, gets a glancing hit in, and pads that stat

look at franson's giveaways.. he's brutal

- Dozzer


could not agree more.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
so we have 7.7 million left to get Gardiner and Reimer signed.

Its gonna be nice to have some cap space this year!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
I find it funny people want to pair him with Polak, two right hand shots that play the right side exclusively. Then you have those that want him paired with Gardiner, it didn't work with those two before, it was a disaster, hey let's try it again, so that brings him up to the top pair, yet again, not a fit, he just does not fit anywhere in this current lineup.
- LeafMan

You didn't take into account that Gardiner will be an All-Star next season and the triforce will finally align sending the cosmic sexual energies through him creating GardinOrr.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Look at Chara, Kieth, Karalsonn, Subbans give aways. Two things they all have in common. They have all won a Norris in the past 5 years. 2 they were all up there in the giveaway stats.
- JVR_42_PK81


ok but those are defencemen who, for every giveaway, make 6 or 7 positive offensive plays.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
If you check back to yesterday
I thought they would settle at 3.6 and avoid arb

- MTL1


I also remember you throwing around the "what if they walk away and lose him for nothing" bit, even going as far as to argue Montreal would have just let Franson walk if they acquired him for Gorges
jerseyleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Brick, NJ
Joined: 06.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
hits are a terrible stat

1: they are counted and tabulated differently in each arena (the leafs are always near the top)

2: franson gives the puck away, gets a glancing hit in, and pads that stat

look at franson's giveaways.. he's brutal

- Dozzer



yes, 1 season out of his career...the rest...they weren't that bad.

http://www.sportingcharts...giveaways-statistic/2013/

Erik Karlsson...led the league...but Ottawa should trade him, right? Subban ahead of Franson on that too! And Reilly.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
ok but those are defencemen who, for every giveaway, make 6 or 7 positive offensive plays.
- Gary_B.


Either that or Franson is poised to walk away with the Norris soon.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
Moulson, Gionta, Gorges...Buffalo is the new hot spot!
- GardinerExpress

They'll be pretty good in a couple of years. Him and his Dad apparantly love the city as well. Can't imagine his slightly boring and serious personna would want to come to Toronto.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
You didn't take into account that Gardiner will be an All-Star next season and the triforce will finally align sending the cosmic sexual energies through him creating GardinOrr.
- AdamFrench

I have taken everything into accont, variables well documented including, GardinOrr and RiellyO'Coffey.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
so we have 7.7 million left to get Gardiner and Reimer signed.

Its gonna be nice to have some cap space this year!

- GardinerExpress


Gardiner yes. Reimer. Ehhh.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
I have taken everything into accont, variables well documented including, GardinOrr and RiellyO'Coffey.
- LeafMan

MatsEm NazDin?
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