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hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
ok so you trade him right? are you getting a #1 defenceman in return? no? ok. you've just opened a hole in your lineup bigger than any other hole that already existed.
- DoubleDown


well the hope is you trade him for enough pieces that in 3-5 years you are much better than years 3-5 with subban eating away all that cap space, they will barely be able to retain their pending RFAs if subban makes 10+M

hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
so you trade PK to make sure you have enough room for a 7th dman and a 4th liner?
- DoubleDown



that 9M will be a struggle to keep the other 4 RFAs in my post
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
well the hope is you trade him for enough pieces that in 3-5 years you are much better than years 3-5 with subban eating away all that cap space, they will barely be able to retain their pending RFAs if subban makes 10+M
- hamiltonhabfan


If the Hawks can pay Toews-Kane-Seabrook-Keith-Crawford, the Habs can pay their own core.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
well the hope is you trade him for enough pieces that in 3-5 years you are much better than years 3-5 with subban eating away all that cap space, they will barely be able to retain their pending RFAs if subban makes 10+M
- hamiltonhabfan


then i really don't see the point of running an NHL team to be honest, if whenever you have elite talent you want to trade them so you don't have to pay them. Montreal has their 2 franchise players entering their prime producing years in Price and Subban. you have to build around that. you can't have your eye on 3-5 years down the road all the time.
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
If the Hawks can pay Toews-Kane-Seabrook-Keith-Crawford, the Habs can pay their own core.
- Not_Yan



but they won their cups with nobodys cap hit being higher than 6.3
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
but they won their cups with nobodys cap hit being higher than 6.3
- hamiltonhabfan


but whawhhaaaaa whaaa
stfu
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
If the Hawks can pay Toews-Kane-Seabrook-Keith-Crawford, the Habs can pay their own core.
- Not_Yan

If the cap goes up by 5M next year the hawks will have 8M to flush out 8 spots
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
that 9M will be a struggle to keep the other 4 RFAs in my post
- hamiltonhabfan


by this logic, Chicago should have traded Patrick Kane in order to keep Dustin Byfuglien and Andrew Ladd. you draft and develop star players, you keep them. no NHL teams trades PK Subbans. no NHL team lets a PK Subban hit UFA.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 21 @ 1:36 PM ET

- Pecafan Fan


Incroyable
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
but they won their cups with nobodys cap hit being higher than 6.3
- hamiltonhabfan

Start cheating the system like they did then. Then get away with it
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
So trade subban in order to sign depth players with little to no serious talent?

Is that what we're getting at today?


*dies*
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
So trade subban in order to sign depth players with little to no serious talent?

Is that what we're getting at today?


*dies*

- Pecafan Fan

Beaulieu can replace Subban's offense. There's a reason one was a first round pick and the other a second!
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
but they won their cups with nobodys cap hit being higher than 6.3
- hamiltonhabfan


look i understand what you're saying. but where does it end? what if you you acquire a player in a Subban trade who becomes a star. an absolute stud who makes the next Team Canada and even wins an individual award. his contract will come due at some point. then what? you trade him?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
So trade subban in order to sign depth players with little to no serious talent?

Is that what we're getting at today?


*dies*

- Pecafan Fan


this is the point. you have salary problems, you shave from the bottom, not the top. it's a lot easier to find 2-3 bottom roster players than it is to find PK Subban.
SourceS.V.P.
St Louis Blues
Location: GOTTA GO FAST, QC
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 1:41 PM ET
trade him, this team has too many holes to give any player 15% of your cap
- hamiltonhabfan

Can honestly never tell when you are serious or when joking sir
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:41 PM ET
but whawhhaaaaa whaaa
stfu

- Not_Yan

MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:42 PM ET
this is the point. you have salary problems, you shave from the bottom, not the top. it's a lot easier to find 2-3 bottom roster players than it is to find PK Subban.
- DoubleDown


Hopefully they can move out moen and his 1.8 which in theory would be replaced with dale
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:43 PM ET
look i understand what you're saying. but where does it end? what if you you acquire a player in a Subban trade who becomes a star. an absolute stud who makes the next Team Canada and even wins an individual award. his contract will come due at some point. then what? you trade him?
- DoubleDown



I get what your saying too
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
Hopefully they can move out moen and his 1.8 which in theory would be replaced with dale
- MTL1


Moen can be replaced by garbage bag full of used rags.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
look i understand what you're saying. but where does it end? what if you you acquire a player in a Subban trade who becomes a star. an absolute stud who makes the next Team Canada and even wins an individual award. his contract will come due at some point. then what? you trade him?
- DoubleDown



also, chicago had to tear their first cup team apart... didn't really matter too much because they kept their best dudes
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
Moen can be replaced by garbage bag full of used rags.
- DoubleDown



soaked in gasoline or no
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 21 @ 1:46 PM ET
soaked in gasoline or no
- -davies-

very good question
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:47 PM ET
but whawhhaaaaa whaaa
stfu

- Not_Yan


Incroyable
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 21 @ 1:49 PM ET
soaked in gasoline or no
- -davies-


soaked in moose piss.
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