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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
Yeah, I wouldn't really look to Giroux as a paragon among backchecking centers.
- BulliesPhan87

Be careful. I made the mistake of saying this before and the hair on my ass is JUST finally growing back.
Litepow
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.11.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
Are we still beating the Crosby dead horse? What's worth arguing over anymore? He's won a cup and two golds, won the Art Ross a bajillion times, and is the most dominate player in the game today. Yes, he can be a whiny immature jerk and I hate him just as much as everyone, but there's no questioning he's the greatest talent of this generation, and no one is going to buy into "Crosby is overrated," because he's not at all.

Also, he's 26. Get used to hearing his name in the scoreboard.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
Thats exactly how I see it as well..

Also, I hate the people just assume because a guy is a 3rd line center he will be stuck in a strictly defensive role.

- jak521


Yeah, that kind of mentality annoys me as well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
He's a Center. I envision the lineup of the future as having the 1-2-3 punch of Giroux, Couturier, and Laughton down the midle of the lineup. And having the center position as a team strength.
- MJL

Sure. At the same time it seems like the club is struggling with whether or not to have Schenn at center or wing. An argument that I feel should have been put to rest even when Danny Briere was still here. It hasn't been much of a question for me but fans and management still seem to be struggling with this. This argument pushes Laughton back.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
Are we still beating the Crosby dead horse? What's worth arguing over anymore? He's won a cup and two golds, won the Art Ross a bajillion times, and is the most dominate player in the game today. Yes, he can be a whiny immature jerk and I hate him just as much as everyone, but there's no questioning he's the greatest talent of this generation, and no one is going to buy into "Crosby is overrated," because he's not at all.

Also, he's 26. Get used to hearing his name in the scoreboard.

- Litepow

Thats the craziest part...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
Are we still beating the Crosby dead horse? What's worth arguing over anymore? He's won a cup and two golds, won the Art Ross a bajillion times, and is the most dominate player in the game today. Yes, he can be a whiny immature jerk and I hate him just as much as everyone, but there's no questioning he's the greatest talent of this generation, and no one is going to buy into "Crosby is overrated," because he's not at all.

Also, he's 26. Get used to hearing his name in the scoreboard.

- Litepow


Agreed except that 2 /= "a bajillion."

Well, maybe in Texas, or Russia.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
SOT pls
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
SOT pls
- Giroux_Is_God


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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
Agreed except that 2 /= "a bajillion."

Maybe in Texas, or Russia.

- jmatchett383


I don't even think there have been a bajillion Art Ross trophies awarded. At least I am pretty sure, I'm really just guessing on that point.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
Sure. At the same time it seems like the club is struggling with whether or not to have Schenn at center or wing. An argument that I feel should have been put to rest even when Danny Briere was still here. It hasn't been much of a question for me but fans and management still seem to be struggling with this. This argument pushes Laughton back.
- SuperSchennBros

I dont buy into the whole, if he is gonna be a center, play him ONLY at center (vice versa wing) .

If he can play wing.. play him at wing. If he can play center, play him at center. Before the problem was more about managing ice time. Not put guys in a spot that they cannot handle.

I see Schenn playing 70/30 wing/center this season. I am totally fine with that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
He's a Center. I envision the lineup of the future as having the 1-2-3 punch of Giroux, Couturier, and Laughton down the midle of the lineup. And having the center position as a team strength.
- MJL

yes
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
I dont buy into the whole, if he is gonna be a center, play him ONLY at center (vice versa wing) .

If he can play wing.. play him at wing. If he can play center, play him at center. Before the problem was more about managing ice time. Not put guys in a spot that they cannot handle.

I see Schenn playing 70/30 wing/center this season. I am totally fine with that.

- jak521


Ive always felt that Schenn's game is better suited to wing.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
SOT pls
- Giroux_Is_God

Lindros debate
Crosby debate
Iron Maiden is great
(that last one is not up for debate)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
I don't even think there have been a bajillion Art Ross trophies awarded. At least I am pretty sure, I'm really just guessing on that point.
- MBFlyerfan


Well, we have to define a bajillion. Since it's not a real number (yet), we have to use it as an independent reference within every category where its value is dynamic. So, if we want to use the highest number, let's go with 10 (the highest number won by any player).
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
Agreed except that 2 /= "a bajillion."

Well, maybe in Texas, or Russia.

- jmatchett383

A bajillion is almost as amazing as a DanBilzerian.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
Ive always felt that Schenn's game is better suited to wing.
- MBFlyerfan

I really dont notice too much of a difference. I think he can produce (and at a decent clip) pretty much any where.

I would just like to see some consistency with line mates.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
A bajillion is almost as amazing as a DanBilzerian.
- jak521


A bajillion?


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
I really dont notice too much of a difference. I think he can produce (and at a decent clip) pretty much any where.

I would just like to see some consistency with line mates.

- jak521


THE FLYERS WILL WIN THE NEXT 80 CUPS.

Prove to me that it's wrong.
Litepow
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.11.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
Agreed except that 2 /= "a bajillion."

Well, maybe in Texas, or Russia.

- jmatchett383

He will probably win an estimated bajillion.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
A bajillion?



- MBFlyerfan


I was gonna make some comment or something, but this image code is so epic I forget what I was going to say.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
I really dont notice too much of a difference. I think he can produce (and at a decent clip) pretty much any where.

I would just like to see some consistency with line mates.

- jak521


No there isn't. So I kind of laugh when those who say he is "much better" as a center.

My point is that I think when he comes in to his own, in order to reach his highest potential, the type of game he plays is better suited to wing.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
I was gonna make some comment or something, but this image code is so epic I forget what I was going to say.
- jak521





Yeah, that was extensive.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
THE FLYERS WILL WIN THE NEXT 80 CUPS.

Prove to me that it's wrong.

- jmatchett383

Welllll.. since you were so vague.. There are lots of Cups that will be won before the NHL season starts back up. Therefor, it is completely unpossible for the FLYERS TO WIN THE NEXT 80 CUPS.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:33 AM ET


Yeah, that was extensive.

- MBFlyerfan

looks like you hotlinked it straight from Starfleet databanks, via some sort of temporal subspace anomaly.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
Welllll.. since you were so vague.. There are lots of Cups that will be won before the NHL season starts back up. Therefor, it is completely unpossible for the FLYERS TO WIN THE NEXT 80 CUPS.
- jak521


But how do you know the Flyers will not win the next 80? Maybe they go to Great Adventure today and play games against only each other and win 80 cups before anyone else.


HOW DO YOU KNOW!?!?!?!?
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