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OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Jul 21 @ 3:29 PM ET
Maybe the greatest value in Eberle's contract was that it convinced Hall to play for 6mil for 7 years...
- BigDre

Whose deal came first? Or were they the same time? The good thing then was Eberle was probably the better player at that time or very close. I still remember other teams fans laughing at 6 million. Hell bolland is almost a 6 mil player now.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:32 PM ET
If I pick up some strange and have a hangnail or small cut on my finger I'm not taking chances...lol

Have you ever picked up some strange and used a dental dam??

- Iggysbff

Just use your Richard, next thing you'll know you'll be wearing painters coveralls to (frank). It's already wrapped up so save time, money and be environmentally friendly.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
If I pick up some strange and have a hangnail or small cut on my finger I'm not taking chances...lol

Have you ever picked up some strange and used a dental dam??

- Iggysbff


saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:34 PM ET
Holy poop... you need to stop posting for a couple hours there bud.
- BigDre


What am I inaccurate about- I feel hockey vision and IQ are valuable and I state that Eberle and Nuge are tops on this team... Lahey said when comparing the above he would rather the thoroughbred- not sure what is so off here that I need to stop posting on here...

http://blogs.edmontonjour...-the-numbers-cant-decide/
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:36 PM ET
Stop posting about what? What am I inaccurate about- I feel hockey vision and IQ are valuable and I state that Eberle and Nuge are tops on this team... Lahey said when comparing the above he would rather the thoroughbred- not sure what is so off here...

http://blogs.edmontonjour...-the-numbers-cant-decide/

- saskoil21

Who's article is that. I can't stand most the guys there. Don't want to give them the extra hit if I don't have to.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:36 PM ET
Stop posting about what? What am I inaccurate about- I feel hockey vision and IQ are valuable and I state that Eberle and Nuge are tops on this team... Lahey said when comparing the above he would rather the thoroughbred- not sure what is so off here...

http://blogs.edmontonjour...-the-numbers-cant-decide/

- saskoil21

Relax bud. If that's your opinion then that's fine. I was just talking that its not a fact, just your opinion. Which is allowed

We all agree Ebs is a great player.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:37 PM ET
Relax bud. If that's your opinion then that's fine. I was just talking that its not a fact, just your opinion. Which is allowed

We all agree Ebs is a great player.

- Iggysbff

Great? Very good for me. Need to see this jabroni go to line two and drive the line.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:39 PM ET
Relax bud. If that's your opinion then that's fine. I was just talking that its not a fact, just your opinion. Which is allowed

We all agree Ebs is a great player.

- Iggysbff



Fact was the wrong word to use-
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:40 PM ET
Stop posting about what? What am I inaccurate about- I feel hockey vision and IQ are valuable and I state that Eberle and Nuge are tops on this team... Lahey said when comparing the above he would rather the thoroughbred- not sure what is so off here that I need to stop posting on here...

http://blogs.edmontonjour...-the-numbers-cant-decide/

- saskoil21


Your assertions that what you think is a fact are ludicrous. Here's why:
1. How do you measure hockey IQ?
2. How do you measure hockey vision?

Without these being defined your evaluation is strictly subjective, and therefore holds no ground to someone who disagrees.

So, when (i think it was OG) said that the only fact in that statement was that it was your opinion, he was right, because without the two points above being defined, there's no way to compare, and then no way to make an actual ranking.

You topped it off by bringing Gretzky into the equation
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:47 PM ET
Your assertions that what you think is a fact are ludicrous. Here's why:
1. How do you measure hockey IQ?
2. How do you measure hockey vision?

Without these being defined your evaluation is strictly subjective, and therefore holds no ground to someone who disagrees.

So, when (i think it was OG) said that the only fact in that statement was that it was your opinion, he was right, because without the two points above being defined, there's no way to compare, and then no way to make an actual ranking.

You topped it off by bringing Gretzky into the equation

- BigDre



Likely the same way many scouts view hockey IQ- what they see on the ice...objective mostly... not sure you measure hockey IQ or vision in written or verbal testing although thats not necessarily out of the question either...

http://howtohockey.com/ho...ense-yes-you-can-learn-it
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:47 PM ET
Whose deal came first? Or were they the same time? The good thing then was Eberle was probably the better player at that time or very close. I still remember other teams fans laughing at 6 million. Hell bolland is almost a 6 mil player now.
- OilerFan16


They were essentially same time. Eberle got freakin lucky with that 34 goal season of his. Without that I could have seen him being offered closer to 5 long term.

If the guy is good for 25 goals every year, and pops 30 once in a while he'll be worth it.

But, a lot of good points have been made about him only playing well with Hall, I've only seen him throw 3 hits in 3 years, but he is better on the backcheck than ppl give him credit for.

Wait another year or two to see who's making 6m players and he may seem like a bargain. Hall at 6 for another 7 years is almost funny when you look at his contribution to the team compared to what some guys who will make 6m will do in a few years.

Good signings... Hall's is better value and term (Ceteris paribus)
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
Likely the same way many scouts view hockey IQ- what they see on the ice... not sure you measure hockey IQ view writtern or verbal test although thats not necessarily out of the question either...

http://howtohockey.com/ho...ense-yes-you-can-learn-it

- saskoil21


To avoid further discussions like this... use sources and post them.

Edit: because as a poster on HB you don't get the leeway sportswriters do.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Relax bud. If that's your opinion then that's fine. I was just talking that its not a fact, just your opinion. Which is allowed

We all agree Ebs is a great player.

- Iggysbff


WTF is a dental dam? Fill me in!
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
WTF is a dental dam? Fill me in!
- The-O-G


A bj with saran wrap
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
WTF is a dental dam? Fill me in!
- The-O-G

Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
Likely the same way many scouts view hockey IQ- what they see on the ice...objective mostly... not sure you measure hockey IQ or vision in written or verbal testing although thats not necessarily out of the question either...

http://howtohockey.com/ho...ense-yes-you-can-learn-it

- saskoil21


I'm not buying that one bit. To some degree you can yes, I would agree. But for the most part hockey sense comes down to a poop load of split second decisions. In the end I believe your reaction is just natural, part of who you are. No amount of teaching can get you to the top.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jul 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm not buying that one bit. To some degree you can yes, I would agree. But for the most part hockey sense comes down to a poop load of split second decisions. In the end I believe your reaction is just natural, part of who you are. No amount of teaching can get you to the top.
- The-O-G


I agree...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
If I pick up some strange and have a hangnail or small cut on my finger I'm not taking chances...lol

Have you ever picked up some strange and used a dental dam??

- Iggysbff

Gawd your such a wuss. .
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
A bj with saran wrap
- saskoil21


da fck?

why the (frank) would you do that hahaha
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jul 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
I agree...
- saskoil21


You will disagree and you'll like it
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
da fck?

why the (frank) would you do that hahaha

- The-O-G

So you don't get a disease.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Where the (frank) is HA? I know he's awake by now.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
A bj with saran wrap
- saskoil21


Or eating a chick out with her vag covered with saran wrap...

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jul 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
So you don't get a disease.
- Yeti1181


aww c'mon take a risk
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