Purcell and Arco > gagner
- OilerFan16

100% Bubba.

Purcell and Arco > gagner
- OilerFan16

arco was on the team last year though, so I don't really feel like Gags was holding the roster back.

It was addition by subtraction is all I'm saying.

Solid contribution.
- Jeropotato

hearing the dumb fans of opposing teams say that makes me think back to the war

hearing the dumb fans of opposing teams say that makes me think back to the war
- TheNugeIsHuge

I know....Korea was a mother(frank)er.....

arco was on the team last year though, so I don't really feel like Gags was holding the roster back.

It was addition by subtraction is all I'm saying.
- Morris

No but we replaced him with a bigger winger. Besides I think Arco can take over gags spot anyways. I think he can put up 40 points and be good defensively at 2C. Just my opinion. Think the guy will surprise a bit

Where did Ryan Jones go again? He's kinda started to become an annoying twat... I'm glad he's gone.

arco was on the team last year though, so I don't really feel like Gags was holding the roster back.

It was addition by subtraction is all I'm saying.
- Morris

Gagner playing center hurt more than it helped.

So here's the other thing I was thinking about rather than cleaning my shed today...

Is it just me, or are Oilers fans in general kind of "meh" about Draisaitl? They love for him is obviously not as strong as it was for Nuge, and I'm wondering why?
Is it because:
1. Nuge was a way better prospect?
2. Draisaitl might not have the BPA when we drafted him, don't want get too excited about him?
3.We are tired of expecting an 18 yo to make an impact?
4.Expectations of the team are higher and we don't have enough to insulate him in a year where we expect to compete?

Personally, I'm thinking #4...with a little bit of #3.

Where did Ryan Jones go again? He's kinda started to become an annoying twat... I'm glad he's gone.
- laughs2907

Has a job interview at Best Buy next week.

Whats he saying? Being a Twitter knob?

No but we replaced him with a bigger winger. Besides I think Arco can take over gags spot anyways. I think he can put up 40 points and be good defensively at 2C. Just my opinion. Think the guy will surprise a bit
- OilerFan16

I'm really hesitant to start the season with him at 2C. I would almost give Lander the shot sooner, but that's mostly based on Rocky's opinion of him playing the wing.

No but we replaced him with a bigger winger. Besides I think Arco can take over gags spot anyways. I think he can put up 40 points and be good defensively at 2C. Just my opinion. Think the guy will surprise a bit
- OilerFan16

could be.

some posters have certainly been more on the arco bandwagon than me, and judging from the advanced stats those have shown, maybe he deserves abit more confidence.
(although i dont neccassarily have much faith that his shooting % will increase just by default---dude has a brutal shot. and we shouldnt neglect a myriad of other factors that he'll be faced with while have more responsibility over the long haul)

but i will say that maybe last year my trepidation was more centered around the fact that he was a midget on an already incredibly small scoring group.
and since that has been marginally addressed, it might not be the same factor that i tended to believe it was last year.

Has a job interview at Best Buy next week.

Whats he saying? Being a Twitter knob?
- Jeropotato

Naw, just his goofy videos on the Oilers site, and stupid hair... It started to get annoying. Concentrate on not sucking at hockey, you dumb (frank).

The Best Buy thing is impressive, because I think they had a tonne of layoffs recently.

So here's the other thing I was thinking about rather than cleaning my shed today...

Is it just me, or are Oilers fans in general kind of "meh" about Draisaitl? They love for him is obviously not as strong as it was for Nuge, and I'm wondering why?
Is it because:
1. Nuge was a way better prospect?
2. Draisaitl might not have the BPA when we drafted him, don't want get too excited about him?
3.We are tired of expecting an 18 yo to make an impact?
4.Expectations of the team are higher and we don't have enough to insulate him in a year where we expect to compete?

Personally, I'm thinking #4...with a little bit of #3.
- Jeropotato

He's not Sam Bennett

Gagner playing center hurt more than it helped.
- Reveen

You make the trades that you can to get better as a team, but it's not like the team wouldn't be better off today with Purcell AND gagner.

Naw, just his goofy videos on the Oilers site, and stupid hair... It started to get annoying. Concentrate on not sucking at hockey, you dumb (frank).

The Best Buy thing is impressive, because I think they had a tonne of layoffs recently.
- laughs2907

Where are you working these days ?

You make the trades that you can to get better as a team, but it's not like the team wouldn't be better off today with Purcell AND gagner.
- Morris

True... but if we have Gagner do we sign Pouliot ?

could be.

some posters have certainly been more on the arco bandwagon than me, and judging from the advanced stats those have shown, maybe he deserves abit more confidence.
(although i dont neccassarily have much faith that his shooting % will increase just by default---dude has a brutal shot. and we shouldnt neglect a myriad of other factors that he'll be faced with while have more responsibility over the long haul)

but i will say that maybe last year my trepidation was more centered around the fact that he was a midget on an already incredibly small scoring group.
and since that has been marginally addressed, it might not be the same factor that i tended to believe it was last year.
- hugefemale dog77

I think Arco is a great fill in at best. He can dutifully play all forward positions, but I'm not sure he can the 2nd line Center for 82 games. Gawd I hope Mac T is working on a deal right noe for a good 2 way center....even his offense is somewhat limited.

So here's the other thing I was thinking about rather than cleaning my shed today...

Is it just me, or are Oilers fans in general kind of "meh" about Draisaitl? They love for him is obviously not as strong as it was for Nuge, and I'm wondering why?
Is it because:
1. Nuge was a way better prospect?
2. Draisaitl might not have the BPA when we drafted him, don't want get too excited about him?
3.We are tired of expecting an 18 yo to make an impact?
4.Expectations of the team are higher and we don't have enough to insulate him in a year where we expect to compete?

Personally, I'm thinking #4...with a little bit of #3.
- Jeropotato

im personally pretty amped on draisaitl. his skill set and size is exactly what the doctor ordered for us at 2c going forward.
but i think expectations need to be tempered for many reasons. not the least of which is that we have 3 more highly touted picks on our squad already, and at least 2 of them still have alot development needed after a couple of seasons.

i actually think that ALL of the possibles you mentioned might have some truth to them

True... but if we have Gagner do we sign Pouliot ?
- Reveen

Probably not.

I think Arco is a great fill in at best. He can dutifully play all forward positions, but I'm not sure he can the 2nd line Center for 82 games. Gawd I hope Mac T is working on a deal right noe for a good 2 way center....even his offense is somewhat limited.
- Jeropotato

I remember people saying the same thing about Horcoff being a number one center.

Probably not.
- Jeropotato

Pouliot is probably a better fit than Gagner was.

Maybe we could try and grab a centre like Krueger out of Chicago who has 1 year left at 1.3. Not sure if Chi would trade him but he has a very good fo%.

Brodziak from Min, 1 year left on his contract too at 2.8.

Cullen from Nashville, 1 year left at 3.5 although they may not want to move him.

We could call up Ottawa and check to see if they're willing to move Legwand and his 2 year, 3 per contract. They would probably be interested in some pics and prospects at this point.

I would rather the Oilers get someone that only has a 1 or 2 year deal left and can act as a temp centre more than trying to find a long term piece that will cost us too much to get.

I was also looking at ufa's that are left, maybe some options still there too.

Michal Handzus
Andrei Loktionov
Scott Gomez

Not an easy task, may be easier to see what the guys we have are like come camp time and make a decision then.

could be.

some posters have certainly been more on the arco bandwagon than me, and judging from the advanced stats those have shown, maybe he deserves abit more confidence.
(although i dont neccassarily have much faith that his shooting % will increase just by default---dude has a brutal shot. and we shouldnt neglect a myriad of other factors that he'll be faced with while have more responsibility over the long haul)

but i will say that maybe last year my trepidation was more centered around the fact that he was a midget on an already incredibly small scoring group.
and since that has been marginally addressed, it might not be the same factor that i tended to believe it was last year.
- hugefemale dog77

It's funny about guys like Arco being small.

When people defend Penner it's always like "well, he's big and strong. Even if he is lazy, he's still hard to knock off the puck".

Well from what I saw last year, Arco was easier to knock off the puck than most Oiler forwards, but the story with him is that he's better than guys bigger than him because of how hard he tries.

Sometimes I feel like people can be inconsistent about guys they have high hopes for. Don't get me wrong, I love a hard working player, but from what I can see the absolute best we could hope for out of Arco is a player like Cogliano, and despite us giving cogs away for nothing, it's not entirely clear he'd bring this oilers roster much closer to winning a cup.