Man, you manage to get these Rangers fans going very easily.
There is a Lightning poster on nhl-trade-rumors.com, who gets the same reaction out of Leafs fans. They seriously flock to down-vote him or bash him.

What I am saying is... keep up the good work.


- Lightning813

Tampa is a lottery team, you like that?

*while playing Martin Brodeur, the league's worst starting goaltender.

Schneider alone puts them in playoff contention. The same way Price gets Montreal in the conversation year after year.

I don't think being constantly out-shot is a recipe for success. That's all these stats say.
- Michael_Stuart

It depends on the quality of shots though. The Rangers last season often times put close to 50 shots on net every game...but the majority of them were from the outside and have no chance of going in. This inflates the possession numbers.

The difference between Montreal and New Jersey is that Montreal actually has a couple of gamebreakers like Pacioretty and Subban while New Jersey has...Jagr?

This.

And I think the roster is worse too. Losing Stralman, Boyle, and Pouliot hurts. I don't think the replacements they got are all that good either.
- Michael_Stuart

Boyle can't play defense like stralman period! He will help on the power play but he is going to stink on defense.

Tampa is a lottery team, you like that?
- KreiderBomb

So much butthurt.
You hurt my e-feelings.

Tampa is a lottery team, you like that?
- KreiderBomb

We lost stamkos for like 4 months and still had 101 points

We lost stamkos for like 4 months and still had 101 points
- todd1a

Stamkos was a product of MSL

Fact is the rangers are not as good as the team that left the ice in the loss vs la

Tampa is a lottery team, you like that?
- KreiderBomb

I said I think New York will make the playoffs...

Fact is the rangers are not as good as the team that left the ice in the loss vs la
- todd1a

Agreed.

Stamkos was a product of MSL
- rangerdanger94

I know...

Fact is the rangers are not as good as the team that left the ice in the loss vs la
- todd1a

I think that's currently an opinion. It could very well be a fact, but we won't know until the season starts at least.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Cup finalists were the 1st and 6th ranked FF% teams at 5v5 close during the regular season. The other Western finalist was the 2nd ranked team.

My opinion is that the Rangers' roster got worse this off-season. Like I said, I look forward to them proving me wrong.
- Michael_Stuart

Yep I don't think I the rangers will make the playoffs if they do they will get the 7th or 8th seeds

Yep I don't think I the rangers will make the playoffs if they do they will get the 7th or 8th seeds
- todd1a

I think the Lightning improved their depth and defense and will likely contend for the East if Bishop can repeat his spectacular performance.

Stamkos was a product of MSL
- rangerdanger94

Ya stamkos sucks for sure he is going to need drouin to carry him

And I had to omit a few that contained some inappropriate references!
- Michael_Stuart

It depends on the quality of shots though. The Rangers last season often times put close to 50 shots on net every game...but the majority of them were from the outside and have no chance of going in. This inflates the possession numbers.

The difference between Montreal and New Jersey is that Montreal actually has a couple of gamebreakers like Pacioretty and Subban while New Jersey has...Jagr?
- rangerdanger94

I'm sort of with you on the whole shot quality thing. This is an interesting read though - http://nhlnumbers.com/201...g-chances-and-shot-totals - Someone has done far more research than yours truly.

I think the Lightning improved their depth and defense and will likely contend for the East if Bishop can repeat his spectacular performance.
- rangerdanger94

Bishop will be good but he is not going to repeat last season he was insane. But with a improved defense he won't drop off too much.

I'm sort of with you on the whole shot quality thing. This is an interesting read though - http://nhlnumbers.com/201...g-chances-and-shot-totals - Someone has done far more research than yours truly.
- Michael_Stuart

Most NHL teams nowadays have an assistant coach sitting in the press box taking his own version of stats down that include things like quality shots/scoring chances which to me clearly indicated that the NHL's "official" shot stats that you see in boxscores are very inaccurate.

I read an article recently that the NHL will be implementing their own version of advanced analytics in 2015-16.

http://www.theglobeandmai...ticle18595761/?cmpid=rss1

They will be A LOT more accurate and precise than Corsi and Fenwick. Those advanced stats just throw me off because a guy like Brian Boyle had one of the worst possession stats in the league last season but every time the 4th line was out on the ice, the puck was more often than not in the opposition's zone being cycled.

Not to say Dan Boyle is bad but I'd rather have paid stralman 4.5 for 5 years then Dan Boyle 4.5 for two years. Boyle is 38 there is a reason the sharks dumped him.

Not to say Dan Boyle is bad but I'd rather have paid stralman 4.5 for 5 years then Dan Boyle 4.5 for two years. Boyle is 38 there is a reason the sharks dumped him.
- todd1a

Okay.

So much butthurt.
You hurt my e-feelings.
- Lightning813

Well as ludicrous as my statement was so are the ones about the most recent Eastern Conference Champs, that's my point, Stewey make a lot of claims about NY, not just a one time thing

Well as ludicrous as my statement was so are the ones about the most recent Eastern Conference Champs, that's my point, Stewey make a lot of claims about NY, not just a one time thing
- KreiderBomb

He's just bitter Tampa has our sloppy seconds

Not to say Dan Boyle is bad but I'd rather have paid stralman 4.5 for 5 years then Dan Boyle 4.5 for two years. Boyle is 38 there is a reason the sharks dumped him.
- todd1a

The Sharks have a lot bigger problems than letting Boyle go, I know he's the reason why they always choke right?

Well as ludicrous as my statement was so are the ones about the most recent Eastern Conference Champs, that's my point, Stewey make a lot of claims about NY, not just a one time thing
- KreiderBomb

If by 'a lot' you mean 'two,' then sure.

1. Stralman drove the bus on the Staal-Stralman pairing. The numbers show this. It's pretty clear.

2. The Rangers roster isn't as good today as it was to end last season. It is still good enough to make the playoffs. This is an opinion. We'll see whether it holds as the season unfolds.

The Sharks have a lot bigger problems than letting Boyle go, I know he's the reason why they always choke right?
- KreiderBomb

No but he can't defend