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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:32 PM ET

"Evander Kane for Bailey, De Haan and a pick

This one is interesting and there have been more than a few murmurs that these two teams have had talks. If you are Garth Snow you are drooling at the chance of having Kane and Tavares on a line together, drooling. However this deal gets tricky with the pick going back to Winnipeg, what is it exactly. The Islanders do not have a 2015 first and would the Jets want to wait two years to realize something from a trade in the form of a draft pick? I’m also not so sure Bailey makes a ton of sense unless it’s simply salary savings. De Haan on the other hand is LHD and is intriguing. I see this one as a starting point if you throw in Grabner instead of the pick."



I love the idea of Kane playing with Tavares. The price will be high and rightfully so but I doubt Snow trades DeHaan even for someone of Kanes caliber. We need defense. DeHaan had an excellent season last yr, is home grown, and very young. He stabilized our blue line as a rookie towards the end and just got signed to a pretty good 3 yr contract. His ceiling is pretty damn high from what I've seen. Don't see him going anywhere for just about anyone.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Jul 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
Trading away Bailey, Grabner AND Lee would essentially sacrifice all of the forward depth that was added in signing Grabovski and Kulemin. That might be worth doing for the right defenseman but Bogo ain't it.

Also, I think the ship may have sailed on the Isles and E Kane. They probably were kicking the tires a month ago but have since added some serious talent at LW.

I see them standing pat unless they can add a legit top-4 defenseman at a reasonable cost.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
So because the isles have tons of prospects they should overpay just cause they do? Is this really Garth snow? Come on admit it
- 28Girouxsalem28

The Jets would actually laugh at that offer. Lee looks great and I'm a Grabner fan but that trade is lopsided. You're right about the overpaying part you just don't have the right team. The Isles win the deal hands down.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
@ ur not me

That is way, way, way too much for the Isles to pay.

- Snowblind

You're joking right? Bailey, Mayfield, Grabner, and Lee for Kane and Bogosian would probably get you laughed off the phone and your number blocked by Chevy. Lee shows promise, Bailey has been pretty much a borderline bust(I'm saying that and I actually like the kid), Grabner is a versatile forward and Mayfield is a decent prospect for a pretty damn good forward and a defenseman bordering on becoming elite. We win that trade hands down.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:43 PM ET
You're joking right? Bailey, Mayfield, Grabner, and Lee for Kane and Bogosian would probably get you laughed off the phone and your number blocked by Chevy. Lee shows promise, Bailey has been pretty much a borderline bust(I'm saying that and I actually like the kid), Grabner is a versatile forward and Mayfield is a decent prospect for a pretty damn good forward and a defenseman bordering on becoming elite. We win that trade hands down.
- Cptmjl



Nobody see's what I'm trying to do
but in fairness, those players would be controlled for Winnipeg which would be beneficial to the organization.....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
Trading away Bailey, Grabner AND Lee would essentially sacrifice all of the forward depth that was added in signing Grabovski and Kulemin. That might be worth doing for the right defenseman but Bogo ain't it.

Also, I think the ship may have sailed on the Isles and E Kane. They probably were kicking the tires a month ago but have since added some serious talent at LW.

I see them standing pat unless they can add a legit top-4 defenseman at a reasonable cost.

- Snowblind


Sorry but I don't see how...
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Jul 17 @ 2:49 PM ET
According to some, Bogo is not far from being a Bailey on D (a high 2008 pick yet to put it all together and starting to get bypassed on the depth chart).

With the Grabo and Kulemin signing, the Isles may have finally settled their depth scoring issue. Making a 3-forward for Kane trade would send them back toward being a one-line team.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
According to some, Bogo is not far from being a Bailey on D (a high 2008 pick yet to put it all together and starting to get bypassed on the depth chart).

With the Grabo and Kulemin signing, the Isles may have finally settled their depth scoring issue. Making a 3-forward for Kane trade would send them back toward being a one-line team.

- Snowblind



I understand your point & view but Bailey & Grabner are expendable now to isles and they are both young and productive just need a fresh new start, it happens to players...

Kane-JT-KO
Kumelin-Grabo-Strome
Nelson-Neilsen-Conacher
MM-CC-Cal

How is that a 1 line team??
Plus even if Bogo is being passed, he still would help us now over Donovan and waiting for Mayfield.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Conacher is intriguing but, let's face it, the worst team in the league didn't even qualify him. Penciling him in in the top 9 is asking for trouble. I would also like to see Martin in the role that Boulton has been in; a 13th forward called upon when more truculence is needed.

As of right now, the Isles have the best forward depth in the Metro and are in the top 3 (with TB and Bos) in the conference. If they mortgage that depth, it better be for a very good vet defenseman.
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
Don't forget Demko.
- Scooby_Doo


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rickyd39
New York Islanders
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
No trade with the isles will include De Haan or Reinhart, in 2 years time our top 4 will be Hamonic, De Haan, Reinhart, Pulock. Snow is not going to sacrifice any of these guys for a locker room distraction.

The more realistic offer would be bailey, donovan, grabner, which is already over payment as Kane's ceiling is a 30 goal scorer and Grabner has the ability to reach that number plus his PK skills are well above avg.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
No trade with the isles will include De Haan or Reinhart, in 2 years time our top 4 will be Hamonic, De Haan, Reinhart, Pulock. Snow is not going to sacrifice any of these guys for a locker room distraction.

The more realistic offer would be bailey, donovan, grabner, which is already over payment as Kane's ceiling is a 30 goal scorer and Grabner has the ability to reach that number plus his PK skills are well above avg.

- rickyd39


Couldn't agree more....

But adding Kane next to JT would be 40-50g
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
BSchenn, 2015 1st

For

Kane, 2015 3rd

We can probably just wait til FA and throw together an offer for Bobby Ryan. I doubt the Flyers come up with the best offer.

- hereticpride


With what cap space? Pronger and Umberger are on the books for 3 years, Grossman and L.Schenn, B.Schenn and Voracek for 2 years. The only cap space we get is from Emery, Timonen and Shultz, that leaves us with 3 mill in cap space next season. I highly doubt Hextall wants to use LTIR option 2 a second year in a row since it is the least desirable option.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
E. Kane for

Jiri Tlusty, 1st Rd Pick
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
BSchenn, 2015 1st

For

Kane, 2015 3rd

We can probably just wait til FA and throw together an offer for Bobby Ryan. I doubt the Flyers come up with the best offer.

- hereticpride


LOL never going to happen; Brayden Schenn kind of stinks, sorry to tell you. And Bobby Ryan in free agency, huh? With what cap space?
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Jul 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
Why would the Jets trade Kane right now anyway? They would clearly be selling low at this point. If I am the Jets, I'd start the season with him, give him some favorable minutes, see if he can start the season on fire and THEN trade him.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
LOL never going to happen; Brayden Schenn kind of stinks, sorry to tell you. And Bobby Ryan in free agency, huh? With what cap space?
- isles10289


Yes because a kid playing his 1st full NHL season scoring 20 goals and 41 points is consider bad....
Ersberg
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 05.26.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
He's overrated. Those first 2 offers, especially the PHX offer, are overpayments.

Richards and 3rd for Kane. I wouldn't go more then that. I'm hesitant to throw in the pick, but I'd do it to offset the age difference.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
Yes because a kid playing his 1st full NHL season scoring 20 goals and 41 points is consider bad....
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Yeah I don't know how you can say he stinks
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
He's overrated. Those first 2 offers, especially the PHX offer, are overpayments.

Richards and 3rd for Kane. I wouldn't go more then that. I'm hesitant to throw in the pick, but I'd do it to offset the age difference.

- Ersberg



The same Richards who was in rumors to be bought out because he stunk too much for the money he's making?

You really wouldn't get much for Richards, especially not Kane. He's mainly a salary dump at this point.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 17 @ 5:29 PM ET
I don't know if it's just such an obvious deal, or if you got the idea from me, but I wrote about the EXACT same trade here:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...bvious-It-Hurts/200/61271


Personally, I'd love to see Kane on the 'Yotes.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Peter Tessier: The Best offers for Evander Kane Reviewed
Taking a look at the best deals offered and if they make sense for the Jets to finally deal Evander Kane.

- Peter.Tessier

You are never, EVER getting Yandle for Kane. Not even straight up, let alone adding the 1st and Samuelsson. Yandle is an elite PMD, also a 2x All star.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:40 PM ET
I don't know if it's just such an obvious deal, or if you got the idea from me, but I wrote about the EXACT same trade here:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...bvious-It-Hurts/200/61271


Personally, I'd love to see Kane on the 'Yotes.

- James_Tanner

Thank the good lord above us that you don't run the Coyotes franchise.
xrayguy101
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 02.24.2014

Jul 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
O'Reilly + 2nd for Kane, turns into a 1st if O'Reilly doesn't sign but jets would have him for 2 years to sell him on the beauty of Winnipeg or throw a boat load of cash at him he's greedy.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:46 PM ET
I'd do something like Perron + 2nd rounder + Gernat for Kane

I'd rather use Perron for a centre but if we can turn Perron into Kane and hope he turns it around, we either sell high and trade him for a centre midway in the year or keep a power forward in the making.
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