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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:32 PM ET
Sutter letang to sens for bobby ryan and a 2015 1st round draft pick
- Palmer117


Who plays D when Martin moves on and if Ehroff decides to do the same? And Ryan as well? That essentially could be letang and Martin for a 1st?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
He's a RFA...I hardly call what he is doing right now...holding out. Holding out would be if he was supposed to be somewhere and wasn't because of his contract or lack thereof.

Jordan Staal should not be making 6M a year...
Letang Should not be making 7+M a year...
Toews and Kane...same...right???

I guess it's up to Rutherford to decide if he'd be missed or not.

- icedog97



I disagree, I think 7+M for Letang is going to be a steal when you see the bloated contracts PK and Hedman get next. They are going to get PAAAAAAAAAAAAID. Letang is 2 years removed from a Norris Finalist... I don't get all the hate.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:47 PM ET
I disagree, I think 7+M for Letang is going to be a steal when you see the bloated contracts PK and Hedman get next. They are going to get PAAAAAAAAAAAAID. Letang is 2 years removed from a Norris Finalist... I don't get all the hate.
- j.boyd919


Was anyone paying attention to what Orpik signed for?
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Was anyone paying attention to what Orpik signed for?
- sammy87


5.5 mil for 5 years. Nisk got 5.75.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
5.5 mil for 5 years. Nisk got 5.75.
- powerhouse


And some are upset at Letang for 7.3?
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jul 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
My turn to stir the pot!

Ek suggests Tampa is interested in Phanuef. I don't buy it especially considering Tampa's defensive depth chart is already looking great.

For arguments sake though pretend Tampa is interested in a D-man and the Penguins offer up Martin whether it is today, tomorrow or the trade deadline. This is of course purely hypothetical but who do you want in return?

Tampa has a plethora of forwards both active and in the system so again who do you like?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
My turn to stir the pot!

Ek suggests Tampa is interested in Phanuef. I don't buy it especially considering Tampa's defensive depth chart is already looking great.

For arguments sake though pretend Tampa is interested in a D-man and the Penguins offer up Martin whether it is today, tomorrow or the trade deadline. This is of course purely hypothetical but who do you want in return?

Tampa has a plethora of forwards both active and in the system so again who do you like?

- penguins-4-life

Stamkos
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jul 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
Stamkos
- dbell646


Ha! I hear ya buddy. I'll be a little more specific, reasonably who do you like/think would be a trading piece who isn't Stamkos, Hedman or Drouin.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 17 @ 6:31 PM ET
My turn to stir the pot!

Ek suggests Tampa is interested in Phanuef. I don't buy it especially considering Tampa's defensive depth chart is already looking great.

For arguments sake though pretend Tampa is interested in a D-man and the Penguins offer up Martin whether it is today, tomorrow or the trade deadline. This is of course purely hypothetical but who do you want in return?

Tampa has a plethora of forwards both active and in the system so again who do you like?

- penguins-4-life


I like Connolly for Despres.

For Martin, I would want Kucherov or Erne.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jul 17 @ 6:43 PM ET
I think Hornqvist is going to do really well with Malkin. Very happy with the trade from a team standpoint. Spalling is still the wildcard, but he has got to be better than what we have had before in the bottom six.

The chart says a lot though. Neal and Malkin played well, but they never had a netfront presence to disrupt the D. This is looking to be a better playoff team than previously thought.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

Jul 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
I like Connolly for Despres.

For Martin, I would want Kucherov or Erne.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Connolly would be terrific. I enjoyed watching him play for the cougars (limited his play time was from injury of course).

Kucherov I don't know much about but all forward prospects are welcome at this point.

I haven't given up on Despres. I think it is time for him to get some serious play time in and on a suitable low cost bridge contract which will help a lot.


sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 7:35 PM ET
Isles blog has a rumor that Grabner is being shopped.

He could be good on the Pens, love his speed and ability.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 17 @ 7:46 PM ET
Connolly would be terrific. I enjoyed watching him play for the cougars (limited his play time was from injury of course).

Kucherov I don't know much about but all forward prospects are welcome at this point.

I haven't given up on Despres. I think it is time for him to get some serious play time in and on a suitable low cost bridge contract which will help a lot.

- penguins-4-life


Despres has size and skill. I think he could be helpful in the playoffs. He was good against Philly and inexplicably pulled by Disco Dan the following game. Has a wicked wrist shot too.
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jul 17 @ 7:49 PM ET
Despres has size and skill. I think he could be helpful in the playoffs. He was good against Philly and inexplicably pulled by Disco Dan the following game. Has a wicked wrist shot too.
- powerhouse


I know fewer people believe me these days but Despres' ceiling >> Maatta's ceiling.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 17 @ 8:01 PM ET
I know fewer people believe me these days but Despres' ceiling >> Maatta's ceiling.
- cygnus41


Remains to be seen. However size and skating and skill are what he brings to the table. he is a talent worth working on, IMO. I went to a Wilkes Barre game two years ago and booked an extra night in my hotel just to see him play. his lateral skating is superb. His wrist shot powerful. His size is remarkable. His judgment on when to dive in offensively is his biggest issue. Good coaching can fix that, IMO. I am a fan.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jul 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
If engelland could get it, despres could double that
- drummer829

Are you talking about Engelland's UFA deal with Calgary ?

Totally different scenario....

Cause Despres is an RFA and has not even played a full season or a half season consecutively, he has no leverage in any deal. He'll get a 1 way deal but he won't have much say on the money at all. He has bottom 6 pairing points/ice time/performance. My guess is 900k-1.2 mil for 1 year. In a full season I fully expect him to blow his previous performances out of the water ala Matt Niskanen.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 17 @ 9:03 PM ET
Are you talking about Engelland's UFA deal with Calgary ?

Totally different scenario....

Cause Despres is an RFA and has not even played a full season or a half season consecutively, he has no leverage in any deal. He'll get a 1 way deal but he won't have much say on the money at all. He has bottom 6 pairing points/ice time/performance. My guess is 900k-1.2 mil for 1 year. In a full season I fully expect him to blow his previous performances out of the water ala Matt Niskanen.

- nelson911

I Hope Despres and Dumoulin can make Martin expendable next year. I'm a Big believer on Despres' game.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jul 17 @ 9:49 PM ET
I Hope Despres and Dumoulin can make Martin expendable next year. I'm a Big believer on Despres' game.
- Barnaby36

I'm also a believer. Smooth skating 6"4 defenseman don't grow on trees
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Jul 17 @ 10:19 PM ET
And Iginla is the new Bourque
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 17 @ 10:27 PM ET
I'm also a believer. Smooth skating 6"4 defenseman don't grow on trees
- dbell646


Me too. He's had quite a few very good games. Some bad ones too. I'm hoping we see him get steady work next year.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 17 @ 10:40 PM ET
I think Hornqvist is going to do really well with Malkin. Very happy with the trade from a team standpoint. Spalling is still the wildcard, but he has got to be better than what we have had before in the bottom six.

The chart says a lot though. Neal and Malkin played well, but they never had a netfront presence to disrupt the D. This is looking to be a better playoff team than previously thought.

- usethe1-2-2


I wouldn't be so sure Hornqvist plays with Geno. I think he might be playing with Sid. Just a gut feeling since Neal/Iginla were put with Geno. Would it be a bad thing for Sid to take the two best wingers?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 17 @ 10:42 PM ET
I'm also a believer. Smooth skating 6"4 defenseman don't grow on trees
- dbell646


One more reason to believe in Dumo/Despres right now! They've been seasoned in the AHL. Have some NHL experience. Are now 22/23 years old. It's time!!

I know I am that guy...I just really want to see these kids play for a while. Not just injury call-ups.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
One more reason to believe in Dumo/Despres right now! They've been seasoned in the AHL. Have some NHL experience. Are now 22/23 years old. It's time!!

I know I am that guy...I just really want to see these kids play for a while. Not just injury call-ups.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Lets not forget about Harrington. He'll be our new Scuderi/Orpik out there. Part of me want him to make it this year too.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
Lets not forget about Harrington. He'll be our new Scuderi/Orpik out there. Part of me want him to make it this year too.
- Barnaby36


Maybe I'm overconfident in them, but I would be fine if we lost Martin for a top 6 wing. I would do Martin for Marleau right now and not even blink.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jul 17 @ 11:27 PM ET
I wouldn't be so sure Hornqvist plays with Geno. I think he might be playing with Sid. Just a gut feeling since Neal/Iginla were put with Geno. Would it be a bad thing for Sid to take the two best wingers?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Im pretty sure that Hornqvist will start the season with Malkin, but the beauty of this year is:
New coach and system, and pretty much a new team to go along with it.

I'm really excited for this year to start. I really, really like the new look penguins. I can see a character to the team starting to develop, a whole business like vibe to it all. Best way to describe how I see the team now is; Patrick Kane. Came into the league all flash and nonsense, but now when you watch him on the ice, its all business. Sure you dont see as many of the highlight mouthgaurd hanging out of his mouth knock your socks off goals, but now when you see him out there is methodical and lethal.

I cant wait!
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