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Forums :: Blog World :: Dee Karl: NHL Ice Girls Debate Continues - 14 Years Later
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 17 @ 11:57 PM ET
I'm going to guess this is strictly a female issue with other females. Pretty sure there aren't too many male NHL fans upset about ice girls... if any.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
mikhail the legend.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
It is for the worse that we allow ourselves to pretend that intelligence and kindness are intrinsic in some people and not others, these things are conditioned. German people are not born more intelligent than the Polish people on the other side of a 60 year old arbitrary border, and yet the average German's IQ is 10 points higher than the average Pole's.

Including "looks" in the discussion is nonsense that was used against first-wave feminism and it has been so debunked that I'm not even going to address it. It's tantamount to telling a woman that she is as valuable as a doctor because she cleans a doctor's house and cooks his meals. Bull! That is what you tell a woman that you want to dissuade from becoming a doctor. Considering "looks" in that triumvirate of human qualities is an excuse for "hot people" to be stupid and mean.

- WJDiedrich




you sound like a pretty smart guy; youre ability to take your opinions and ideas and formulate them into big words all the while making complete sentences is a rather impressive skill and pretty rare around these parts of the internet.

having said that, the combination of your intelligence and close mindedness is a really dangerous thing. i dont think we need to get into a philosophic debate and quite frankly neither of us are going to change our stance on this but it scares me that there are people out there who think the way you do.

reading between the lines, i realize and even appreciate that what you are saying (and encouraging) is people have more to offer than just looks or boobs but your inability to appreciate other skills or features is what causes hate; its obnoxious and rude. if you think being intelligent is the way the world turns, fantastic!! go read a book. if some chick feels good about herself when drunken guys bang on the glass, who are you to say that isnt right?? is it hurting you?

go read a book on how to accept others; learn to appreciate that people dont think the same way you do. they dont value the same things you do...and thats ok.

i realize this most likely comes off sounding like an insult but its more a fact than anything else
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:01 AM ET
Might be a bit of a stretch here... but would say almost all of the Ice Girls, are not even hockey players... just girls who like to skate, and a working a (frank)ING job. I havn't seen Hooters being criticized in the media lately, they are much worse. Not to mention, the wings are crap.
Slow news days suck on all fronts, giving people an excuse to make things like this an "issue" just to try and spur sales and create controversy.

- Guile


100% agree... terrible wings.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
I'm a fan. In fact, in general, their wings are better than their waitresses at many Hooters I've been to (like, 3-4).
- jmatchett383


horrific wings.. Batter and bone. .. horrific.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
As a long time Season ticket holder to the Isles (too long) who brings young daughters to the games (under 10).. I like the Islander Ice girls. They are all nice girls. They work at the public rinks during skating sessions too. I have been to other arenas and yes some have gone a bit over board (I will leave it there)... but the Isles ice girls can actually Skate (most of them were in the Figure skating schools/camps at ice works).. and I have been at a ton of Events for Season ticket holders and have NEVER seen them acting inappropriately.

Like Sparky some people will always hate it... but I am on board with anything the kids like.. and my kids love the ice girls. (sadly it's always the first Autographs they get on their Pink Islander jerseys).
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
I'm going to guess this is strictly a female issue with other females. Pretty sure there aren't too many male NHL fans upset about ice girls... if any.
- MnGump


You ever meet a Ranger fan? They hate anything they don't have .. mascots, Ice girls, Stanley cups...etc.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
not even 1 comment on my gbov pic, a disgrace
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
not even 1 comment on my gbov pic, a disgrace
- big_dion





There you go bud... some attention for ya.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
not even 1 comment on my gbov pic, a disgrace
- big_dion



not really..... comment worthy

XxNYIxX
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 9:03 AM ET
The only people complaining are fat older women that cant even fit into the uniforms. Their husbands probably don't give them attention any more cuz they let their bodies go. Believe it or not, some chicks like to look sexy and be objectified. They like the attention. I know a few NFL cheerleaders, they work their butts off to stay in shape and they love it. They get paid pennies, but they would do it for free. This is nothing more than fat feminists that don't get any attention anymore.

Grabner available huh? What from the Pens would make it happen?

- sammy87



This whole blog is ridiculous. For me personally I could care less about the ice girls. When I've been to MSG the people shoveling the ice between whistles are all hockey kids (all young males). At the coliseum it's all women. Yes they are dressed sexy, but who cares? My opinion is that it's cheesy but its not my kid out there.

This whole argument reminds me of pulp fiction and the foot massage being a sexual act vs a non sexual act. "Would you give your mother a foot massage?" For me, I wouldn't let my daughter do this job, as the outfits are obviously sexual for young ladies. But, that's just me.....doesn't make it right or wrong.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 9:06 AM ET
you are a jackass..my daughter was any ice girl for 5 years.hated the ogling, had stalkers follow her to her car..she loves skating still teaches at the Isles skating facility, college grad, now married, ....you have NO concept of how hard the girls work just to make the team. grow up
- Mike C



I don't think he was lambasting your daughter. You said it yourself, your daughter hated the ogling. Loving skating is great but the ice girls aren't just skating.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:52 PM ET
you are a jackass..my daughter was any ice girl for 5 years.hated the ogling, had stalkers follow her to her car..she loves skating still teaches at the Isles skating facility, college grad, now married, ....you have NO concept of how hard the girls work just to make the team. grow up
- Mike C

Ummmmmmmmm.... just sayin, but.... I'm guessing the entire concept of the ice girls is somewhat sexual. So maybe your daughter should have looked to join Disney on ice my friend and not be apart of something that is clearly about appeasing the typical male sports fan.
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