Mitchell is listed as a center on the Sabres site as well. And if they needed to, they could put Hodgson there. So there's plenty of options.
- HonkFortheGoose

They could go the route to have whomever is stronger on the right side take faceoffs on the right side, and the stronger on the left take the faceoffs on the left and roll from there. I think that's their best option. The options that are before them are very exciting.

From the last blog:




Waivers has nothing to do with a 1 way or 2 way contract. That's what I'm trying to say. The only difference is money.
- HonkFortheGoose

A player on a one way contract will always have to.clear waivers to be sent to the minors

A player on a one way contract will always have to.clear waivers to be sent to the minors
- sabres2016

That is incorrect. A club could sign an 18 year old to a 1 way contract if they wanted to. But that player would not need to clear waivers to go to the AHL because waivers is determined soley by number of professional games played and age.

That is incorrect. A club could sign an 18 year old to a 1 way contract if they wanted to. But that player would not need to clear waivers to go to the AHL because waivers is determined soley by number of professional games played and age.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think its games and money, but the only guys you really give a one way to are guys who have been in ahl/nhl a few years already and 1st rounders who would be sent to juniors not ahl

I think its games and money, but the only guys you really give a one way to are guys who have been in ahl/nhl a few years already and 1st rounders who would be sent to juniors not ahl
- sabres2016

In most cases, a guy on a 1 way contract would probably have to clear waivers, but it's not because of the contract, it is because of how many professional games they've played. That is the only stipulation for waivers. It's all about age and the number of games played in the AHL or NHL league.

Both of these guys have a lot to prove before that will happen. I know a lot of people on here don't like Hodgson because he's not very good defensively, but he at least has a good attitude and works hard. That can't be said for Grigo and Armia at the moment.
- HonkFortheGoose

Grigerenko to me seems like a new man. He seems humble and has been working really hard this off season actually dating back to his stint in the AHL. Just because he's got a "reputation" doesn't mean it cant be broken... As for Armia he had a great playoffs for the Amerks so I don't agree with you there either.

In most cases, a guy on a 1 way contract would probably have to clear waivers, but it's not because of the contract, it is because of how many professional games they've played. That is the only stipulation for waivers. It's all about age and the number of games played in the AHL or NHL league.
- HonkFortheGoose

Ok gotcha. I was just saying logically they will almost always have to clear waivers based on.circumstance

I think ennis is slated as the top one...methinks Girgensons gets a shot at #2...Larsson should be in the mix for bottom two and am of the opinion that foligno gets a shot, maybe as #4 or they'll go with mccormick

other than that...*shrugs*
- Michael Pachla

Ennis
Reinhart
Girgensons
McCormick

That's your 4 centers. With Girgensons likely getting more ice time than Reinhart but Reinhart playing with the more skilled players.

Grigerenko to me seems like a new man. He seems humble and has been working really hard this off season actually dating back to his stint in the AHL. Just because he's got a "reputation" doesn't mean it cant be broken... As for Armia he had a great playoffs for the Amerks so I don't agree with you there either.
- bluengold12

I think the biggest issue for both, is building on where they were last season.

Grigerenko to me seems like a new man. He seems humble and has been working really hard this off season actually dating back to his stint in the AHL. Just because he's got a "reputation" doesn't mean it cant be broken... As for Armia he had a great playoffs for the Amerks so I don't agree with you there either.
- bluengold12

You're taking 2 very small sample sets and basing your entire opinion off of them. They need to go down and bust ass for at least the first half of the season to prove they're ready to make the jump. Armia disappeared for stretches of the season last year. It's why he didn't get called up even though there were a ton of injuries in Buffalo.

You can't just pick out one small part of what they've done historically and make a statement like that. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, but they haven't done it yet. They'll both be in Rochester for probably about 75% of the season. I wouldn't mind them getting a chance or two here throughout the season, but I'm not about to move/cut ties with Hodgson just to make space for one of them right now either.

I think the biggest issue for both, is building on where they were last season.
- thatsapickle

If you've watched/listened to Grigerenko's interviews during camp to me he seems like a new man. Cassidy was giving him great reviews with his play forechecking and his play away from the puck. Things he didn't do when he was with the Sabres

If you've watched/listened to Grigerenko's interviews during camp to me he seems like a new man. Cassidy was giving him great reviews with his play forechecking and his play away from the puck. Things he didn't do when he was with the Sabres
- bluengold12

If only he were Canadian.... He'd be an elite prospect still to most

You're taking 2 very small sample sets and basing your entire opinion off of them. They need to go down and bust ass for at least the first half of the season to prove they're ready to make the jump. Armia disappeared for stretches of the season last year. It's why he didn't get called up even though there were a ton of injuries in Buffalo.

You can't just pick out one small part of what they've done historically and make a statement like that. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, but they haven't done it yet. They'll both be in Rochester for probably about 75% of the season. I wouldn't mind them getting a chance or two here throughout the season, but I'm not about to move/cut ties with Hodgson just to make space for one of them right now either.
- HonkFortheGoose

I couldn't be misinterpreting what you said but

"he at least has a good attitude and works hard. That can't be said for Grigo and Armia at the moment"

I took this as you saying Grigerenko and Armia didn't have a good attitude. And if that's the case I respectfully disagree with you.. Grigerenko has had nothing but a positive attitude sense he joined Rochester last year and even more so this off season. I didn't say anything about them playing here. I was more so disagreeing with the not working hard and having a bad attitude comments...

If only he were Canadian.... He'd be an elite prospect still to most
- sbroads24

Agreed. Or Swedish.. People seem to love Swedish prospects.

If you've watched/listened to Grigerenko's interviews during camp to me he seems like a new man. Cassidy was giving him great reviews with his play forechecking and his play away from the puck. Things he didn't do when he was with the Sabres
- bluengold12

Which is all well and good, but now he needs to prove it on the ice and earn his spot. We don't need to move anyone on our roster now. If we do move someone like Hodgson at the deadline and Grigorenko sticks to his words and plays like a man possessed, then I think he will get the first crack at the big show. It's on him to prove that it's not all lip-service.

I couldn't be misinterpreting what you said but

"he at least has a good attitude and works hard. That can't be said for Grigo and Armia at the moment"

I took this as you saying Grigerenko and Armia didn't have a good attitude. And if that's the case I respectfully disagree with you.. Grigerenko has had nothing but a positive attitude sense he joined Rochester last year and even more so this off season. I didn't say anything about them playing here. I was more so disagreeing with the not working hard and having a bad attitude comments...
- bluengold12

Showing a hard work ethic for 6 months when it's been a known issue for a player is not enough to prove to me that they've turned it around.

Which is all well and good, but now he needs to prove it on the ice and earn his spot. We don't need to move anyone on our roster now. If we do move someone like Hodgson at the deadline and Grigorenko sticks to his words and plays like a man possessed, then I think he will get the first crack at the big show. It's on him to prove that it's not all lip-service.
- thatsapickle

You mean the guy that emailed me from Nigeria saying he was going to send me $1,000,000 isn't going to follow through? I thought everything that people said was 100% the honest truth and nothing else!

Which is all well and good, but now he needs to prove it on the ice and earn his spot. We don't need to move anyone on our roster now. If we do move someone like Hodgson at the deadline and Grigorenko sticks to his words and plays like a man possessed, then I think he will get the first crack at the big show. It's on him to prove that it's not all lip-service.
- thatsapickle

I agree I don't think Armia or Grigerenko should start on the team this year unless we trade people and there are openings.. My main thing is people wanting to harp on Grigs for having a bad attitude like they are sitting in the locker room with him watching him personally.. To me and to guys like the AHL head coach he has improved remarkably and is really working hard to become a complete player. That's all I ask.

Showing a hard work ethic for 6 months when it's been a known issue for a player is not enough to prove to me that they've turned it around.
- HonkFortheGoose

Well good thing you don't run the team then I guess.. The coaches and most everyone else thinks Grigerenko has changed his attitude and work ethic tenfold which doesn't have anything to do with skill results but is a big thing for him.

You mean the guy that emailed me from Nigeria saying he was going to send me $1,000,000 isn't going to follow through? I thought everything that people said was 100% the honest truth and nothing else!
- HonkFortheGoose

Nor is your family in danger in Mexico/Peru/(insert any Central or South American country here) and you need to wire them money to get them out of a jam.

I agree I don't think Armia or Grigerenko should start on the team this year unless we trade people and there are openings.. My main thing is people wanting to harp on Grigs for having a bad attitude like they are sitting in the locker room with him watching him personally.. To me and to guys like the AHL head coach he has improved remarkably and is really working hard to become a complete player. That's all I ask.
- bluengold12

I am not disagreeing with you in the slightest. I would want guys that know what they need to do to get better, and are in fact doing that. He seems to be taking the steps in the right direction, the coaching staff is noticing, and his confidence will come back. I am just waiting for the "A-Ha" moment that I know he can bring if he wants to.

Call me a skeptic, I suppose. I am hoping for the best. I was happy when they drafted him and think he will be able to bring a lot to the table when he puts the pieces together.

That is incorrect. A club could sign an 18 year old to a 1 way contract if they wanted to. But that player would not need to clear waivers to go to the AHL because waivers is determined soley by number of professional games played and age.
- HonkFortheGoose

Just one point of clarification: Any player signing his first NHL contract that is under 25 must sign an Entry Level Contract. All ELC's are two-way by rule. So a club most likely can't sign an 18-year-old to a one-way contract.

Otherwise, Goose is right.

If only he were Canadian.... He'd be an elite prospect still to most
- sbroads24

Maybe the best Grigo comment in months.

The NHL is a tough nut to crack for anyone, regardless of talent, pedigree, or size...and attitude (while important) can only take you so far. I am not ready to give up on 25 even for 3-4 more years of development.

Maybe the best Grigo comment in months.

The NHL is a tough nut to crack for anyone, regardless of talent, pedigree, or size...and attitude (while important) can only take you so far. I am not ready to give up on 25 even for 3-4 more years of development.
- LandlordTom

I think if he turns into a good-great player that is huge. I'm willing to wait it out.

I think if he turns into a good-great player that is huge. I'm willing to wait it out.
- thatsapickle

Especially if he can learn wing this year in Rochester. If Buffalo gets McEichel there will be no room at center for him. If he pans out at wing though, he could be great on a wing with Reinhart or McEichel. Or tradebait if he plays lights out in Rochester as a center.