the thought of a Rusty Olesz type return for Patrick Sharp makes me sick
- EnzoD

Who suggested that?

Leddy is also missing.
- JRoenick97

The plot thickens.... It would be nice to get a good return for Leddy. Something should happen next week I hope

Exactly. But that will most likely happen if they wait until next summer. Who knows about now? I would hope an elite scorer like him returns at least a bottom 6 guy and a great prospect.
- tomcat24

One would think that Canadian Olympians fresh of 78 points would get you more than an AHL player in return but the Hawks are between a rock and a hard place and every GM knows it. Stan is gonna HAVE to get a better return on Sharp than he got on Buff,Ladd, Campbell, ect.. bc otherwise the Hawks will take a sizable step backwards both now and in the future...if Sharp doesnt net the Hawks at least a former 1st rounder (even late 1st round) or a current young NHLer than it is a fail and we are going to be relying heavily on Brandon Saad and, dare I even suggest it, RELY ON BRYAN BICKELL!!!

The plot thickens.... It would be nice to get a good return for Leddy. Something should happen next week I hope
- tomcat24

Leddy and Keith for Tyler Myers.


And Dahlbeck in on 1st pairing.

That should satisfy the Leddy-haters.

Too ba that Ottawa trade with lazar would never happen, but Smith would be a nice pickup. Definitely need a prospect and pick back, even with our cap trouble. Sharp is still an elite winger. I wouldn't mind Matt Martin on the Isle with a kid like Anders Lee
- tomcat24

I'd prefer a multiplayer deal, that is part salary dump part hockey trade .....

Chicago needs a salary dump
Ottawa needs help on D and the 'hard' winger that B Murray is looking for....


To Ottawa : Sharp ($6M) + Oduya ($3.4M)
To Chicago : Smith ($1.9M) + one of Gryba ($1.2)/Borowieki (~$1.2M)
[EDIT that was a bit lopsided even for a homer ..... add Peumple to address the lack of propsects I've been reading here]

thats a net savings of about $6M for Chicago assuming Peumple stays in the minors for another year

One would think that Canadian Olympians fresh of 78 points would get you more than an AHL player in return but the Hawks are between a rock and a hard place and every GM knows it. Stan is gonna HAVE to get a better return on Sharp than he got on Buff,Ladd, Campbell, ect.. bc otherwise the Hawks will take a sizable step backwards both now and in the future...if Sharp doesnt net the Hawks at least a former 1st rounder (even late 1st round) or a current young NHLer than it is a fail and we are going to be relying heavily on Brandon Saad and, dare I even suggest it, RELY ON BRYAN BICKELL!!!
- EnzoD

It would definitely suck. I'm hoping a few teams would really want a 2-time Cup champ, great sniper and leader to help them take the next step. Like you said he just came off a great year. Hopefully a few teams feel he is what they need and get a little bidding war so we get something

Leddy and Keith for Tyler Myers.


And Dahlbeck in on 1st pairing.

That should satisfy the Leddy-haters.
- savvyone-1

I don't know if anyone hates Leddy but the reality is one of Leddy or Oduya has to go. I think Leddy has more value with his age and upside. Plus hammer and oduya really formed great chemistry on the shutdown pair

I don't know if anyone hates Leddy but the reality is one of Leddy or Oduya has to go. I think Leddy has more value with his age and upside. Plus hammer and oduya really formed great chemistry on the shutdown pair
- tomcat24

I know.
Just hate giving up on a guy that's 23 that will still be an RFA.

I'd prefer a multiplayer deal, that is part salary dump part hockey trade .....

Chicago needs a salary dump
Ottawa needs help on D and the 'hard' winger that B Murray is looking for....


To Ottawa : Sharp ($6M) + Oduya ($3.4M)
To Chicago : Smith ($1.9M) + one of Gryba ($1.2)/Borowieki (~$1.2M)

- GadesnSens[EDIT that was a bit lopsided even for a homer ..... add Peumple to address the lack of propsects I've been reading here]

thats a net savings of about $6M for Chicago assuming Peumple stays in the minors for another year

IDK much about Peumple but thats basically giving the Hawks Ottawa's scraps for our top line LW and lockdown pair dman.....im gonna go with a No Thanks.

I'd prefer a multiplayer deal, that is part salary dump part hockey trade .....

Chicago needs a salary dump
Ottawa needs help on D and the 'hard' winger that B Murray is looking for....


To Ottawa : Sharp ($6M) + Oduya ($3.4M)
To Chicago : Smith ($1.9M) + one of Gryba ($1.2)/Borowieki (~$1.2M)

- GadesnSens[EDIT that was a bit lopsided even for a homer ..... add Peumple to address the lack of propsects I've been reading here]

thats a net savings of about $6M for Chicago assuming Peumple stays in the minors for another year

Peumple would be a good add. But even with our need to dump salary I think we could get better. Smith would a very good add, though. Gryba is decent

I know.
Just hate giving up on a guy that's 23 that will still be an RFA.
- savvyone-1

Yeah I understand. I do think he has a lot of amazing gifts. I'm curious to see if he can put it all together. Damn salary cap

Why doesn't anyone have an issue with Crawford's cap hit at 6 million? Is he really a 6 million dollar goaltender?
- LeftCoaster

Is the washed up Ryan Miller worth 6 Mil per ....then yes C2 who has won 6 of his last 7 playoff series and was key to those series wins says I have no issue going forward.

FWIW I think Oduya and Versteeg are traded before the start of the year. Oduya should be easy to trade since he's been quite good for the Hawks, has a reasonable cap hit and only 1 year left. Versteeg can be dealt and I don't think he's as untradeable as people think. Guys that are much worse have been traded in recent years. Bowman may have to throw in a pick but it can be done. Worst case just put him on waivers, someone will claim him.

I don't know if anyone hates Leddy but the reality is one of Leddy or Oduya has to go. I think Leddy has more value with his age and upside. Plus hammer and oduya really formed great chemistry on the shutdown pair
- tomcat24

Can Leddy grow as a player or is what we see all he will be? He has some exceptional top end skills but his hockey sense really worries me. He continually makes the same futile puck rushes that result in no goal, no scoring chance and usually a turnover after he shoots on net from a bad angle with no support because he has outskated everyone. In his own end he doesn't seem to understand what his job is and allot of the time he flat footed as the opposition has puck possession.

All that said you hate to get rid of sublime talent and Leddy has that in spades.

I would be fine with Sharp for a former 1st rounder that is 1-2 years away from the NHL and a high draft pick or depth player with some ability. I just wish Stan would make a move already! the suspense is taxing my mind!! It would be interesting to see if Sharp could be moved at the deadline this season. It seems that teams have their lineups mostly set and injuries/under performance during the season will bring more demand for a scoring top line winger. Stan should be working his butt off right now on the phones bc he probably has a list of about 10 names that are "untouchable" but everyone else is open season until he gets under the cap

There is value in a great contract. Zake Smith at $1.9m for 3 years is a golden contract. He is a heart and sole player, nice hands, always takes the body, will fight anyone, great guy in dressing room and loved by his coaches at every level he has played. Always thought the best deal for the Hawks was Smith straight up for Sharp. You can Richarder over a pick or a prospect, all that can be balanced. But, essentially the Hawks get something they need in a player and they get cap relief.

Crazy to take on a player like Eller who is a RFA and already looking for a big salary increase.
- spatso

Does Ottawa need to get to the cap floor? Melnyk isn't taking on salary unless he has to.

I would be fine with Sharp for a former 1st rounder that is 1-2 years away from the NHL and a high draft pick or depth player with some ability. I just wish Stan would make a move already! the suspense is taxing my mind!! It would be interesting to see if Sharp could be moved at the deadline this season. It seems that teams have their lineups mostly set and injuries/under performance during the season will bring more demand for a scoring top line winger. Stan should be working his butt off right now on the phones bc he probably has a list of about 10 names that are "untouchable" but everyone else is open season until he gets under the cap
- EnzoD

While Sharp makes the most sense to deal, I think they will keep him this year and let it play out. Bowman may want to see "more" from Saad and Bickell this year before dealing Sharp. Remember Bickell was a no-show most of this year and Saad can be off and on at times.

While Sharp makes the most sense to deal, I think they will keep him this year and let it play out. Bowman may want to see "more" from Saad and Bickell this year before dealing Sharp. Remember Bickell was a no-show most of this year and Saad can be off and on at times.
- dan9189

I agree that keeping Sharp this year makes the squad better by A LOT...but if/when the Hawks are at Capocaplypse 2.0 next summer and we get Rusty Olesz's cousin for Patrick Sharp the Hawks will be much worse off. The only reason I suggest trading Sharp now or at the deadline is bc the Hawks have some leverage and might actually get a decent return...

Who suggested that?
- Ogilthorpe2

I did, about a month ago on Ty's blog where I mention that my biggest fear was a salary dump with a three legged dog coming back to the Hawks.

I agree that keeping Sharp this year makes the squad better by A LOT...but if/when the Hawks are at Capocaplypse 2.0 next summer and we get Rusty Olesz's cousin for Patrick Sharp the Hawks will be much worse off. The only reason I suggest trading Sharp now or at the deadline is bc the Hawks have some leverage and might actually get a decent return...
- EnzoD

I completely disagree with that line of thinking, two completely different scenarios. Campbell still had 5 years at over $35 million left on his "unmovable deal" when the Hawks traded him. Sharp will have 2 years left at just under $12 million after this year and Sharp is still performing well for the Hawks. Sharp will nab them much more then Rusty Olesz.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't be surprised if Seabrook is the big named shipped out if he and the Hawks cannot agree to an extension next offseason. He'll have 1 year left on his deal and will probably be seeking a long term deal in the $7 million per year range which will probably be too rich for the Hawks and is probably not the smartest move for the Hawks to make either.

I agree that keeping Sharp this year makes the squad better by A LOT...but if/when the Hawks are at Capocaplypse 2.0 next summer and we get Rusty Olesz's cousin for Patrick Sharp the Hawks will be much worse off. The only reason I suggest trading Sharp now or at the deadline is bc the Hawks have some leverage and might actually get a decent return...
- EnzoD

They should make no moves that won't make them better this year: they are built to win NOW (ESPECIALLY given their cap situation.

Next year is next year - worry about it the last week in June, 2015 - after (hopefully) a long play-off run.

I completely disagree with that line of thinking, two completely different scenarios. Campbell still had 5 years at over $35 million left on his "unmovable deal" when the Hawks traded him. Sharp will have 2 years left at just under $12 million after this year and Sharp is still performing well for the Hawks. Sharp will nab them much more then Rusty Olesz.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't be surprised if Seabrook is the big named shipped out if he and the Hawks cannot agree to an extension next offseason. He'll have 1 year left on his deal and will probably be seeking a long term deal in the $7 million per year range which will probably be too rich for the Hawks and is probably not the smartest move for the Hawks to make either.
- dan9189

Seabrook is more important to the team's success than Sharp, and by a lot. Keeping Sharp at the expense of Seabs would be insane. They may not be able to re-sign Seabs even if Sharp is already gone, but if Sharp is still here and Seabs is gone...I may just lose it, again.

I completely disagree with that line of thinking, two completely different scenarios. Campbell still had 5 years at over $35 million left on his "unmovable deal" when the Hawks traded him. Sharp will have 2 years left at just under $12 million after this year and Sharp is still performing well for the Hawks. Sharp will nab them much more then Rusty Olesz.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't be surprised if Seabrook is the big named shipped out if he and the Hawks cannot agree to an extension next offseason. He'll have 1 year left on his deal and will probably be seeking a long term deal in the $7 million per year range which will probably be too rich for the Hawks and is probably not the smartest move for the Hawks to make either.
- dan9189

Id think Seabrook would take a Hjallmarsson-type team friendly deal around 6 mil so that he could stay with the Hawks his entire career...Id hope for that anyway...

They should make no moves that won't make them better this year: they are built to win NOW (ESPECIALLY given their cap situation.

Next year is next year - worry about it the last week in June, 2015 - after (hopefully) a long play-off run.
- StLBravesFan

Easier said than done when Stan must make a salary reducing move of some kind before this season begins.

They should make no moves that won't make them better this year: they are built to win NOW (ESPECIALLY given their cap situation.

Next year is next year - worry about it the last week in June, 2015 - after (hopefully) a long play-off run.
- StLBravesFan

I agree with you but if they trade Oduya our defense will take a huge hit....I just feel as though the trading of Sharp is less of a loss given Saad's development and his need for top 6 minutes next year