kindlyrick
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Yes you!!. Guys like strome because he has potential and is a legit top prospect and you tell us that we all think he already is an all star because we like him and think he has a bright future. Go find me all the posts that says he is already an all star. I'll wait - Vukota
Are you serious right now??? I responded to someone saying if Tavares walks in 2018 Strome would step right in and be the number one center. Lets cool down here and let Ryan Strome play a full year in the NHL, put up some points and then we can entertain any discussion you want. But until then, he's a prospect with potential and cannot be used in ANY discussion as Tavares replacement. |
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Vukota
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PeteM
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Location: NY Joined: 07.10.2007
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There was more to that trade. Ottawa traded for Comrie and Campoli both of whom they expected to come in an help the PP.
Campoli was a young dmen who could skate and play the PP. Lets not act like Garth is a genius cause he got a first rounder one time. Cause there's 5 other times he got fleeced.
Sidenote: Campoli went from making the league minimum to making 1.7 million. Maybe a million dollars more a year isn't a big deal to you, but I'm sure it changed campolis life. - kindlyrick
And what exactly does that have to do with anything? |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Vukota
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Are you serious right now??? I responded to someone saying if Tavares walks in 2018 Strome would step right in and be the number one center. Lets cool down here and let Ryan Strome play a full year in the NHL, put up some points and then we can entertain any discussion you want. But until then, he's a prospect with potential and cannot be used in ANY discussion as Tavares replacement. - kindlyrick
I agree, but I don't think it would surprise anybody that in 4-5 years from now he would be a #1 center. |
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Vukota
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Of those "whopping 17 pts" 6 were goals scored. Do you know how many dmen scored 6 goals on the isles last sesson? I'll tell you how many.....NONE.
Ottawa traded for two guys who they thought would come in and help their PP. This was a good trade for both teams. But good lord, for every decent trade Garth has made, there's 3 that were terrible. - kindlyrick
Your post
"Lets not act like Garth dumped Gomez etc for Mcdonagh etc. Campoli was set to get double what he was making, and we all know Wang loves to pinch pennies in the basement (especially at that time)."
I just pointed out that it had nothing to do with Campoli getting paid especially when he still had 1 1/2 years left on his contract. As you can see my post had nothing to do with Snow and past trades you keep bringing it up
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Isles_since_6
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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There was more to that trade. Ottawa traded for Comrie and Campoli both of whom they expected to come in an help the PP.
Campoli was a young dmen who could skate and play the PP. Lets not act like Garth is a genius cause he got a first rounder one time. Cause there's 5 other times he got fleeced.
Sidenote: Campoli went from making the league minimum to making 1.7 million. Maybe a million dollars more a year isn't a big deal to you, but I'm sure it changed campolis life. - kindlyrick
if you think about it, since Campoli had requested a trade, and Comrie was schremp-like useless, to get a 1st out of that was pretty goddamn impressive.
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Vukota
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They got rid of Campoli because Garth was able to package him for a first rounder. The money always has something to do with it because its the isles. I don't care if Campoli had one year remaining. You got me.....sick. You're acting like the isles fleeced Ottawa. Great the isles drafted Calvin Dehaan who had 3 season ending injuries before his NHL career had begun. Sweet.
Lets go back to campolis salary...... - kindlyrick
Yes I did. Which goes back to my point of you exaggerating.
I never mentioned one word about who got the better of the trade, so I'm not doing any acting buddy |
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Isles_since_6
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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They got rid of Campoli because Garth was able to package him for a first rounder. The money always has something to do with it because its the isles. I don't care if Campoli had one year remaining. You got me.....sick. You're acting like the isles fleeced Ottawa. Great the isles drafted Calvin Dehaan who had 3 season ending injuries before his NHL career had begun. Sweet.
Lets go back to campolis salary...... - kindlyrick
that's the thing though, we did fleece Ottawa in that deal. Campoli had requested a trade and hadn't proven himself in the league, and Comrie was useless. To get a 1st back was a pretty damn good deal. Not as good as Buffalo's haul on Vanek, but a damn good deal.
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kindlyrick
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Vukota
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kindlyrick
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that's the thing though, we did fleece Ottawa in that deal. Campoli had requested a trade and hadn't proven himself in the league, and Comrie was useless. To get a 1st back was a pretty damn good deal. Not as good as Buffalo's haul on Vanek, but a damn good deal. - Isles_since_6
I actually forgot Campoli requested a trade. But again I ask, how did the isles "fleece" Ottawa. I happen to like DeHaan.....I think he's super talented. But it would be foolish to slot him as a future number 1 PP guy when he's already had three season ending injuries. I feel it would be poor managing to rely on a kid who's had this history of season ending injuries. |
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Isles_since_6
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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I actually forgot Campoli requested a trade. But again I ask, how did the isles "fleece" Ottawa. I happen to like DeHaan.....I think he's super talented. But it would be foolish to slot him as a future number 1 PP guy when he's already had three season ending injuries. I feel it would be poor managing to rely on a kid who's had this history of season ending injuries. - kindlyrick
getting a 1st round pick for a bit defenseman and a useless floater up front would be what I consider a fleecing. I'm not even bringing dehaan into it.
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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kindlyrick
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getting a 1st round pick for a bit defenseman and a useless floater up front would be what I consider a fleecing. I'm not even bringing dehaan into it. - Isles_since_6
It wasn't a high first round pick.....and if my memory serves correct (which could be totally wrong) but didnt Garth trade up to select 12th overall. I could be totally wrong but werent there a bunch of picks traded with Minnesota or Columbus for that 12th pick?
Fleecing was Gomez etc for McDonough etc. Fleecing was Vanek to the Habs |
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Ur Not Me
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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I read somewhere a top 6 forward young or entering prime (think Nelson/Strome) or a top 4 defender
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blue chip prospect (Pokka, Pulock, etc)
pick (most likely 1st, 2nd)
If they get that whoever gives it up is dumb. Kane wants out its no question about it. - Danformo
Winnipeg can ask for the moon, doesn't mean that a/any team will give up that much while knowing that Kane wants out... |
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Vukota
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That's funny. I feel the same. Lets go back to Campoli having a year left on his contract. Lets forget about the fact that the trade fit both teams. Garth really fleeced Ottawa on that one.....it'll probably go down as one of his best. It was such a good trade that the person who posted it forgot about Comrie and mcammond. - kindlyrick
Again I just commented on YOUR post. I never said anything about who got the better of the deal that wasn't the point. I just pointed out that your original reasoning why was hilarious and wrong |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Again I just commented on YOUR post. I never said anything about who got the better of the deal that wasn't the point. I just pointed out that your original reasoning why was hilarious and wrong - Vukota
And I was responding to someone else's post....so now what? I was wrong about Campoli being an RFA. I didn't use google I was going off memory. Thank goodness I had you to point out my incorrect statement. But lets discuss the Campoli salary history.......that should make for some really entertaining stuff |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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getting a 1st round pick for a bit defenseman and a useless floater up front would be what I consider a fleecing. I'm not even bringing dehaan into it. - Isles_since_6
Campolis first season as an islander he had 9 goals. Do you know who scored 9 goals this past season as a dman? Tyler Myers, Keith Yandle, Alex Pietrangelo, Ryan Suter, Dion Phaneuf.......that's a pretty big deal if you ask me. For an Ottawa team desperate for scoring, I don't think giving up a later first for Campoli and Comrie was a fleece. Especially when Campoli had scored 9 goals previously and was making the league minimum. As Vukota so graciously pointed out, Campoli had another year of league minimum money.....so the potential was there. It was a fair deal for both teams at the time. |
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Vukota
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And I was responding to someone else's post....so now what? I was wrong about Campoli being an RFA. I didn't use google I was going off memory. Thank goodness I had you to point out my incorrect statement. But lets discuss the Campoli salary history.......that should make for some really entertaining stuff - kindlyrick
sure give me a list of Islander players that Wang got rid of after there rookie contracts were up because he didn't want to pay them. |
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Vukota
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And I was responding to someone else's post....so now what? I was wrong about Campoli being an RFA. I didn't use google I was going off memory. Thank goodness I had you to point out my incorrect statement. But lets discuss the Campoli salary history.......that should make for some really entertaining stuff - kindlyrick
Don't be surprised when you post stupid shat and somebody does minimal research to prove you wrong |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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sure give me a list of Islander players that Wang got rid of after there rookie contracts were up because he didn't want to pay them. - Vukota
Why when we can discuss the isles trading for a goalie who wasn't gonna play just to add his salary to reach the floor. Or we can talk about the Yashin and dipietro buyouts that amassed a nice 15 million in salary against the cap to reach the floor. The constant hiring of minor league coaches is also a real bargain. It's completely out of the realm of possibility to think wang was saving money. |
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kindlyrick
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Don't be surprised when you post stupid shat and somebody does minimal research to prove you wrong - Vukota
It's not often I'm wrong, but yes in 2009 Campoli had another year on his contract....you're correct, and thank you again for pointing that out. You got me.
Pointing out that I was wrong about the contract status of Campoli in 2009 is akin to correcting someone using their instead of there or they're. It's ridiculous.
Bottom line.....someone said snow turned Campoli into DeHaan and the isles fleeced Ottawa. I disagreed. I disagree with anyone pegging a prospect as an NHL star when they haven't played a full season in the NHL |
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