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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
But that's the ruling for NA junior players. The 10 games is the 9-game tryout we're familiar with. Hagg is not a NA junior.
- jmatchett383


He finished up in North America last season... That doesn't count?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:18 AM ET
So, does that mean Laughton is going to burn a year of his EL contract regardless of where he plays this coming season?
- wolfhounds


Yep. The only slide eligible guys, under contract currently, are Morin and Hagg.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
But that's the ruling for NA junior players. The 10 games is the 9-game tryout we're familiar with. Hagg is not a NA junior.
- jmatchett383


Doesn't matter, according to capgeek. Any ELC under age 20 is eligible to slide.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yes. His ELC kicks in this year.
- jmatchett383


Cool beans. So his performance is what matters this coming season. I like it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
He finished up in North America last season... That doesn't count?
- wolfhounds


Hampus Lindholm played 44 games in the AHL in 12-13 and his contract slid.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2331
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:19 AM ET
Okay. How about Simmonds?
- jmatchett383


Yeah, he can slide.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
Hampus Lindholm played 44 games in the AHL in 12-13 and his contract slid.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2331

- Feanor



Stupid CBA...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:20 AM ET
Doesn't matter, according to capgeek. Any ELC under age 20 is eligible to slide.
- Jsaquella


So, Robert Hagg could play a full AHL season and not make any money?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hampus Lindholm played 44 games in the AHL in 12-13 and his contract slid.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2331

- Feanor


If I wasn't so lazy, I'd enroll in law school just to understand the CBA...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
So, Robert Hagg could play a full AHL season and not make any money?
- jmatchett383


No, he'll get paid, but the contract term basically extends a year
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
So, Robert Hagg could play a full AHL season and not make any money?
- jmatchett383


He will make $70,000 if he plays in the AHL all season long.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/3342
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
So, Robert Hagg could play a full AHL season and not make any money?
- jmatchett383


Now Jsaq's gotta shoot off another tweet... at this rate, CapGeek is going to block him.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hampus Lindholm played 44 games in the AHL in 12-13 and his contract slid.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2331

- Feanor



that makes no sense but seems like it works in the Flyers favor so
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:21 AM ET
Stupid CBA...
- Tomahawk


Yeah!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:22 AM ET
No, he'll get paid, but the contract term basically extends a year
- Jsaquella


That just seems wrong. If they go back to juniors a la Morin, it makes sense since he's not playing for a Flyers' affiliate. However, Hagg is getting paid by the Flyers, yet he isn't listed as having played for them. I understand it, it just seems wrong.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
Now Jsaq's gotta shoot off another tweet... at this rate, CapGeek is going to block him.
- Tomahawk


Going to? I had to use my alternate twitter handle, @Egon_Spengler
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
That just seems wrong. If they go back to juniors a la Morin, it makes sense since he's not playing for a Flyers' affiliate. However, Hagg is getting paid by the Flyers, yet he isn't listed as having played for them. I understand it, it just seems wrong.
- jmatchett383


Oh sure, but it's really just keeping them from RFA for a single season or two at most.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Oh sure, but it's really just keeping them from RFA for a single season or two at most.
- Jsaquella


I understand it. It just seems like a violation in itself, that's all.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Going to? I had to use my alternate twitter handle, @Egon_Spengler
- Jsaquella


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:25 AM ET
I understand it. It just seems like a violation in itself, that's all.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, it does. I wish it was as simple as sign the guy, bring him to the AHL and rock and roll. I'd love to have a CBA that is simple and clear cut. It sucks that fans have to know and worry about how much cash a guy makes.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:26 AM ET
Sounds like the Preds are gonna sign Derek Roy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
Yeah, it does. I wish it was as simple as sign the guy, bring him to the AHL and rock and roll. I'd love to have a CBA that is simple and clear cut. It sucks that fans have to know and worry about how much cash a guy makes.
- Jsaquella

Well, it could be worse. We could be dealing with slide rules based on total minutes TOI.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
Sounds like the Preds are gonna sign Derek Roy.
- Jsaquella


4 MORE YEARS!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
Well, it could be worse. We could be dealing with slide rules based on total minutes TOI.
- BulliesPhan87


Yeah, i get the idea behind the slide rule, but it seems pretty easy to abuse.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:30 AM ET
Yeah, it does. I wish it was as simple as sign the guy, bring him to the AHL and rock and roll. I'd love to have a CBA that is simple and clear cut. It sucks that fans have to know and worry about how much cash a guy makes.
- Jsaquella


I don't think it would be fair for teams have a 18 or 19 year old play in the AHL and have that get them a year closer to being a RFA.

And it's not that complicated. If the young player plays 9 or less NHL games then his ELC slides till the next year.
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