I think Ryan stating publicly he want to come back was brilliant on his part - it puts huge pressure on managment to sing him. He says he wants to stay in a market that is feeling shunned by it's biggest stars and the fans are all screaming to get it done.

He has Ottawa up against a wall here - smart move by him, he's in the drivers seat and can pretty much name his price within reason. he knows Montreal, Toronto, Detroit would pay out the nose in FA to get him, almost all 30 NHL teams will
- tuna99

Toronto has no need for him. They’ve got three better wingers.

This speculation that Ryan wants to play in Philly because he lived there ,is just that .Philly doenst offer much more than Ottawa does.Our teams arent that far apart ,in fact the whole of the east isnt far apart .Why would Philly try and outbid us on a winger ??When clearly they have much more important holes to fill ,like their defense??They wont be in the running for Ryan period
- top shelf 15

It’s not really speculation. He was asked in an interview if he’d like to play for the Flyers, with Giroux, and he said he’d love to. It’s not quite the same as coming right out and saying he’d like to play for the Flyers when he hits free agency, but it’s not speculation either. He’s SAID he’d like to.

Funny how so many Sens fans gave me so much crap for saying he’s probably not going to want to stay (no reason for him to want to stay), and that he’d extend right on July 1. It’s two weeks later, and suddenly Sens fans themselves are talking about him wanting out.

It’s not really speculation. He was asked in an interview if he’d like to play for the Flyers, with Giroux, and he said he’d love to. It’s not quite the same as coming right out and saying he’d like to play for the Flyers when he hits free agency, but it’s not speculation either. He’s SAID he’d like to.

Funny how so many Sens fans gave me so much crap for saying he’s probably not going to want to stay (no reason for him to want to stay), and that he’d extend right on July 1. It’s two weeks later, and suddenly Sens fans themselves are talking about him wanting out.
- prock

agreed that, when asked, he has stated in 2012 that he would love to play in Philly with Giroux.....

What is also true that in 2013 he stated that he would love to commit to a team that sacrificed the assets necessary to obtain him....

both statements are facts..... the speculation revolves around what happens next wrt to contract negotiations ..... and that is anybody's guess.

Of course sens fans are going to hang onto what was said in 2013, while Philly fans and sens haters will gravitate to what was stated in 2012.

but isn't that the beauty of these blogsites???

This speculation that Ryan wants to play in Philly because he lived there ,is just that .Philly doenst offer much more than Ottawa does.Our teams arent that far apart ,in fact the whole of the east isnt far apart .Why would Philly try and outbid us on a winger ??When clearly they have much more important holes to fill ,like their defense??They wont be in the running for Ryan period
- top shelf 15

Pure speculation

You can Google it if you'd like, but he has said in the past he wanted to be traded to Philly, and is fond of the idea of playing on Giroux's wing.

Philly wouldn't need to "try" to outbid, they would. Your owner is a cheapskate bleeding money, ours spends and spends every year. Yes some contracts were/are brutal, but he has the cash.

Again, do some research before making a generic statement about another team. Hextall's approach is much different than Holmgren's was. The defense is being fixed, it's just doing it the right way, via the draft.

I will agree with you about the Eastern conference. Philly is a better team than Ottawa, but the whole East is tight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxuDeYVLh_U

that shot is so sexy

agreed that, when asked, he has stated in 2012 that he would love to play in Philly with Giroux.....

What is also true that in 2013 he stated that he would love to commit to a team that sacrificed the assets necessary to obtain him....

both statements are facts..... the speculation revolves around what happens next wrt to contract negotiations ..... and that is anybody's guess.

Of course sens fans are going to hang onto what was said in 2013, while Philly fans and sens haters will gravitate to what was stated in 2012.

but isn't that the beauty of these blogsites???
- GadesnSens

I’m not “hanging on” to either. Players tell the media all kinds of crap. My reasoning for saying he’ll most likely jump ship, is based on the situation, and I’ve stated it before. However, as I said, it’s not speculation at all. Some seem to be trying to paint the context in which he said it a little differently than he actually did, but he definitely said it. It’s not speculation.

Pure speculation

You can Google it if you'd like, but he has said in the past he wanted to be traded to Philly, and is fond of the idea of playing on Giroux's wing.

Philly wouldn't need to "try" to outbid, they would. Your owner is a cheapskate bleeding money, ours spends and spends every year. Yes some contracts were/are brutal, but he has the cash.

Again, do some research before making a generic statement about another team. Hextall's approach is much different than Holmgren's was. The defense is being fixed, it's just doing it the right way, via the draft.

I will agree with you about the Eastern conference. Philly is a better team than Ottawa, but the whole East is tight.
- Rocktane

Philly is not adverse to making big moves in situations like this at all. It’s definitely true, as things sit now, the Flyers are not a very logical place for him to land, in terms of the roster itself, from the Flyers standpoint. But I wouldn’t count them out at all. They moved Carter and Richards because they wanted a shakeup, I don’t see that they would hesitate to move someone else, or do something else, if they really wanted Bobby Ryan in a Flyers uniform. Right or wrong, it’s just the way they do business.

Pure speculation

You can Google it if you'd like, but he has said in the past he wanted to be traded to Philly, and is fond of the idea of playing on Giroux's wing.

Philly wouldn't need to "try" to outbid, they would. Your owner is a cheapskate bleeding money, ours spends and spends every year. Yes some contracts were/are brutal, but he has the cash.

Again, do some research before making a generic statement about another team. Hextall's approach is much different than Holmgren's was. The defense is being fixed, it's just doing it the right way, via the draft.

I will agree with you about the Eastern conference. Philly is a better team than Ottawa, but the whole East is tight.
- Rocktane

I'm sure if a reporter asked Giroux if he'd like to play in Ottawa with Ryan on the wing, he'd give a very similar answer. Hockey players are way to nice in media scrums. It's just the way it is. Some of it's factual and some of it is just trying not to piss everyone off. Ryan may have been doing that in that instant or he was doing that when he said he loved living and playing in Ottawa. He's not rustling any feathers.

I'm sure if a reporter asked Giroux if he'd like to play in Ottawa with Ryan on the wing, he'd give a very similar answer. Hockey players are way to nice in media scrums. It's just the way it is. Some of it's factual and some of it is just trying not to piss everyone off. Ryan may have been doing that in that instant or he was doing that when he said he loved living and playing in Ottawa. He's not rustling any feathers.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Giroux continues to live in Ottawa, he has started a business here. He is a good guy. Great local hero, why would Ryan ever say something negative a out him?

I'm sure if a reporter asked Giroux if he'd like to play in Ottawa with Ryan on the wing, he'd give a very similar answer. Hockey players are way to nice in media scrums. It's just the way it is. Some of it's factual and some of it is just trying not to piss everyone off. Ryan may have been doing that in that instant or he was doing that when he said he loved living and playing in Ottawa. He's not rustling any feathers.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Possible, but Giroux has never said that so it's a moot point unless a reporter does ask him, and he does respond that way. More than 1 instance linking Ryan to Philly the past few years. It's not speculation, there is a history there.

Ryan, playing in Anaheim, requested a trade, preferably to Philly. Ryan, in 2012, stating it would be an attractive option to be playing on Giroux's wing in Philly.

Ryan, playing for Ottawa, stating he loves the city and the team, is different than the above 2 instances. Is he supposed to answer that he hates the city, can't wait to bail next summer? You're right, hockey players do say nice things in interviews, rarely give actual insight.

I'm sure if a reporter asked Giroux if he'd like to play in Ottawa with Ryan on the wing, he'd give a very similar answer. Hockey players are way to nice in media scrums. It's just the way it is. Some of it's factual and some of it is just trying not to piss everyone off. Ryan may have been doing that in that instant or he was doing that when he said he loved living and playing in Ottawa. He's not rustling any feathers.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Maybe, maybe not. There are nice ways of saying things. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear him say “I’m happy where I am”.

Pure speculation

You can Google it if you'd like, but he has said in the past he wanted to be traded to Philly, and is fond of the idea of playing on Giroux's wing.

Philly wouldn't need to "try" to outbid, they would. Your owner is a cheapskate bleeding money, ours spends and spends every year. Yes some contracts were/are brutal, but he has the cash.

Again, do some research before making a generic statement about another team. Hextall's approach is much different than Holmgren's was. The defense is being fixed, it's just doing it the right way, via the draft.

I will agree with you about the Eastern conference. Philly is a better team than Ottawa, but the whole East is tight.
- Rocktane

Again i dont see them being much better than us Toronto,montreal, clb ETC all bubble teams which philly is .I have looked at philly roster and other than a few pieces its unimpressive tbh

Again i dont see them being much better than us Toronto,montreal, clb ETC all bubble teams which philly is .I have looked at philly roster and other than a few pieces its unimpressive tbh
- top shelf 15

We're all allowed opinions. Based on the most recent facts (last season's results), Philly is better. Ottawa has lost Spezza, Philly downgraded from Hartnell to Umberger. This season Ottawa could make the playoffs while Philly misses. That's the great thing about being in the East.

We're all allowed opinions. Based on the most recent facts (last season's results), Philly is better. Ottawa has lost Spezza, Philly downgraded from Hartnell to Umberger. This season Ottawa could make the playoffs while Philly misses. That's the great thing about being in the East.
- Rocktane

This is what i mean there is no clear cut contender in the east. Boston, pittsburgh maybe.So other than money?? which ottawa should be able to spend ,to keep ryan. What other real reasons other than some media report ,makes philly fans so sure he wants to goto the flyers .I mean if they ask Spezza last season about playing for the leafs his hometown team ,iam sure he would have said yes.So what they say in the media isnt always true

This is what i mean there is no clear cut contender in the east. Boston, pittsburgh maybe.So other than money?? which ottawa should be able to spend ,to keep ryan. What other real reasons other than some media report ,makes philly fans so sure he wants to goto the flyers .I mean if they ask Spezza last season about playing for the leafs his hometown team ,iam sure he would have said yes.So what they say in the media isnt always true
- top shelf 15

See that's the opposite of what players usually say. Doubtful Spezza says, while a Senator, that he would like to play for Toronto. Players just don't say things like that, not while under contract to another team. That's what makes the several reports of Ryan linked to Philly interesting. Flyers fans are not "so sure" he's coming to Philly, they are more confident than, say, a Coyotes fan that Ryan might sign in Philly next summer.

I think Ottawa should offer Ryan an 8-year max deal. If he turns that down, then you know he is bolting. Should and will are two different things. Melnyk isn't exactly a big spender.

See that's the opposite of what players usually say. Doubtful Spezza says, while a Senator, that he would like to play for Toronto. Players just don't say things like that, not while under contract to another team. That's what makes the several reports of Ryan linked to Philly interesting. Flyers fans are not "so sure" he's coming to Philly, they are more confident than, say, a Coyotes fan that Ryan might sign in Philly next summer.

I think Ottawa should offer Ryan an 8-year max deal. If he turns that down, then you know he is bolting. Should and will are two different things. Melnyk isn't exactly a big spender.


- Rocktane

See, the semantics here are annoying to read from Flyers fans.

Ryan said he would love to play with Claude Giroux. He never said he wanted to play for the flyers. His answer was more about admiring Giroux as a player than it was Philly. But keep clinging to it right hopefully, even though adding Ryan probably wouldn't even really improve your club from where it is.

See, the semantics here are annoying to read from Flyers fans.

Ryan said he would love to play with Claude Giroux. He never said he wanted to play for the flyers. His answer was more about admiring Giroux as a player than it was Philly. But keep clinging to it right hopefully, even though adding Ryan probably wouldn't even really improve your club from where it is.
- TommyDeVito

So his trade request, when he was disgruntled in Anaheim a few years ago, where his preferred destination would be Philly, is just semantics?

We're not clinging to anything, bud. I could care less if he signs in Philly, or remains in Ottawa. Adding Ryan definitely improves any club going forward, he is a good player. It would also give teams the ability to move other players to address other needs.

An example would be: sign Ryan at no cost other than salary, trade a player (let's say Brayden Schenn) for a decent young d-man.

See, the semantics here are annoying to read from Flyers fans.

Ryan said he would love to play with Claude Giroux. He never said he wanted to play for the flyers. His answer was more about admiring Giroux as a player than it was Philly. But keep clinging to it right hopefully, even though adding Ryan probably wouldn't even really improve your club from where it is.
- TommyDeVito

When he was with the ducks....

“For me, if I'm moved, Philadelphia would be a very ideal and comfortable place for me.”

"He's an incredible, one-of-a-kind player. I'm very fortunate where I am with (Anaheim linemates) Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry when we're together, but Claude Giroux has done things to elevate his team to a new level. If I were to come to Philly, I would love to be alongside him."

When he was with the ducks....
- prock

at the end of the day no one knows whats going to happen...quotes from over a year ago dont really mean anything to me, especially answering a direct question like that...not like hes gonna say hell no screw philly..so whatever i dont overly care about that..hes made similar comments about committing to ottawa..so meh..

i do know he loves the city and almost more importantly his now fiance loves ottawa, whether that factors into anything..who knows..we can go in cricles forever on the subject im sure..

at the end of the day no one knows whats going to happen...quotes from over a year ago dont really mean anything to me, especially answering a direct question like that...not like hes gonna say hell no screw philly..so whatever i dont overly care about that..hes made similar comments about committing to ottawa..so meh..

i do know he loves the city and almost more importantly his now fiance loves ottawa, whether that factors into anything..who knows..we can go in cricles forever on the subject im sure..
- TheMike12

Exactly! Either he signs with Ottawa or he gets traded to another team. I still think the supposed big deal that Ottawa continues to negotiate is with San Jose. My guess is involves a Dman (Methot) and possibly Ryan. The player many people in Ottawa would like to see coming back is Logan Couture.

But, this might take all summer to get resolved. San Jose wants to move Thornton, but he says he is not going anywhere. The Sharks are loaded with centers. But, they need to add on the wing, defense and in net.

Here's how it plays out:

Murray arranges a secret meeting between Bobby and Cheapo's ex.

Cheapo's ex explains how Cheapo will be losing his shirt in the pending settlement decision, and explains that she and Donald Sterling's ex will be pooling their ace-kicking divorce piles and buying the team from Cheapo, and like any rich women on the loose, they will spend spend spend. Especially knowing how Cheapo will die a little inside if the ex won the Cup he never did, despite demanding the signing of Kovalev etc..

Bobby signs on, knowing he will play going forward for a team that will pack the rink and surround him with talent.

Cheapo goes back to the island and tries to build the per dollar cricket champion of the locals.

Everybody else lives happily ever after.

The end

Probably come down to taxes.

The Canadian teams are really working on an uneven playing ground. It seems like no free agents want to sign in Canada. The primary reasons have to be media, weather and taxes. Taxes being the most important factor.

I think the league needs to address this at some point, although I can't see Bettman being too concerned with having all the Canadian teams handicapped.
- Aetherial

What handcuffs Ottawa is having the cheapest owner in the NHL.

What handcuffs Ottawa is having the cheapest owner in the NHL.
- RogerRoeper

yes that does present many issues for the Sens... yay..

Toronto has no need for him. They’ve got three better wingers.
- prock

ya, Toronto is so close to success, they can just smell it

When he was with the ducks....
- prock

Just semantics though.

I honestly hope he does sign a long-term deal in Ottawa. After losing Alfie and Spezza in back to back summers, the franchise needs new, fresh faces to represent it. Karlsson, Ryan, Turris are 3 faces the franchise could market around for years to come.