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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:02 PM ET
It did wonders for for Vincent van Gogh
- Jsaquella


you raise a good point.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:04 PM ET
Not necessarily. I think it might be deals similar to the Hartnell-Umberger deal, where he trades a vet for a vet that fits better and adds a pick. I don't think he wants to rush anyone, even if there's an open slot.

Now, hypothetically, if he's got Laughton tearing it up in the AHL, and has a deal where he can get a 2nd rounder for Umberger, maybe he does it and then slides Laughton up

- Jsaquella


challenging to pull off the top scenario i think...not the vet for vet, but the better fit/pick part.

i don't think he will rush anyone...so it's a matter of how do you acquire the picks without killing the team.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Dracula, maybe.
- jmatchett383


i'd say he's more evil than good. or perhaps just more of a survivalist than anything.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
The pitbull is signed

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=726191
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:06 PM ET
The pitbull is signed

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=726191

- aightwebang17


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:07 PM ET

- hammarby31

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
The pitbull is signed

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=726191

- aightwebang17


Couldn't they have waited
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:11 PM ET

- jak521


i hope those bottles are empty.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:11 PM ET
DP
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:12 PM ET
I just like the mix better with Giroux and Voracek split up. They're both dynamic guys that can drive offense and control the puck. Getting Schenn and/or Simmonds with one of them would help those guys a lot at ES and in turn likely be better for the teams as a whole
- Jsaquella

It was mentioned more than once at the Town Hall how much chemistry G and Czechie have and even was discussed that chemistry with third guy on that line doesn't have to be perfect to get production. It sure didn't sound like anyone there was interested in breaking them up.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:14 PM ET
I think edmontons problem is that they acquired a bunch of talent at forward without getting any defenseman. Couple that with their reluctance to trade any of their young talent and the unwillingness of free agents to sign there and it created a huge hole.

They were a classic team that went BPA in every draft but didn't use their assets to get better in other areas. They simply kept drafting top 6, finesse players and tried making it work

- PhillySportsGuy



You could also make the point that they were bad in the wrong years... no disrespect to the all the guys that went near the top of the 2010-12 drafts, but there was a bit of a gulf in franchise-level talent in the years between Tavares and MacKinnon.

Hall, RNH and Yakupov are/will be good players, but not the kind of guys you can hitch your wagon to and expect to get very far.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
The pitbull is signed

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=726191

- aightwebang17

I garner he's AHL eligible
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:15 PM ET

- hammarby31


When/if this kid scores an NHL goal, I am changing my avatar to this.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
I garner he's AHL eligible
- mayorofangrytown


He will be in 2 days.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
You could also make the point that they were bad in the wrong years... no disrespect to the all the guys that went near the top of the 2010-12 drafts, but there was a bit of a gulf in franchise-level talent in the years between Tavares and MacKinnon.

Hall, RNH and Yakupov are/will be good players, but not the kind of guys you can hitch your wagon to and expect to get very far.

- Tomahawk

I love Taylor Hall. The kid has everything but a decent team around him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
When/if this kid scores an NHL goal, I am changing my avatar to this.
- johndewar

Looking forward to it. November?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
Looking forward to it. November?
- mayorofangrytown


Why not?

You can't stop Pitbull. You can only hope to contain him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
I love Taylor Hall. The kid has everything but a decent team around him.
- mayorofangrytown


I think he's terrific too, but I'd stop well short of trading Giroux for him.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:20 PM ET

- hammarby31

This is the only reasonable response to the signing.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
I think he's terrific too, but I'd stop well short of trading Giroux for him.
- Tomahawk

Well, yeah... Vorachek, Simmonds?

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:22 PM ET
You could also make the point that they were bad in the wrong years... no disrespect to the all the guys that went near the top of the 2010-12 drafts, but there was a bit of a gulf in franchise-level talent in the years between Tavares and MacKinnon.

Hall, RNH and Yakupov are/will be good players, but not the kind of guys you can hitch your wagon to and expect to get very far.

- Tomahawk


Yeah. All things aren't equal, but I would currently rather have seguin than hall and Murray than Yak
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:23 PM ET
Yeah. I was just looking for depth guys. Guys I like or mentioned before. I you can get them on the cheap or eve PTO to see if they can provide something.

P.Meuller
D.Booth
T.Galiardi
D. Penner
C. Fraser
R.Carter

- J35Bacher


I'd be interested in Fraser or Galiardi. Mueller, I don't see him coming over except for a payday. Booth, no interest. As for Penner, we're trying to be a faster skating team, and he won't help there. Ryan Carter, no thanks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:24 PM ET
i'd say he's more evil than good. or perhaps just more of a survivalist than anything.
- hammarby31


Well yes, if we're talking "good" as in good and evil. But if we're talking "good" as in excelling at your craft, I'd say he was pretty good in death.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:26 PM ET
I think he's terrific too, but I'd stop well short of trading Giroux for him.
- Tomahawk


Yeah, but I wouldn't trade Giroux for any number 1 since Crosby.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
Well yes, if we're talking "good" as in good and evil. But if we're talking "good" as in excelling at your craft, I'd say he was pretty good in death.
- jmatchett383


right.
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