mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Stamkos
Crosby
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Weber
Doughty
Datsyuk
Getzlaf
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Malkin - RoloTahmasee[/quote]
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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I agree with you in regards to how hard it would be moving Sharp i just want him moved becouse it would get us out of the cap mess we are in and let some other GM or Team deal with that situation. I know wishful thinking . I like Oduya i think him and hammer make a great defensive pair i know when we fisrt traded for him people were shaking their head but your right our defensive stlye fits him but i also think him( Oduya) being paired with hammer has alot to do with his improved play. I would prefer either Rozi or maybe Versteeg or both go before Oduya our defense is our strength. Defense and Goaltending carries you a long way towards winning the cup. - BGKarras
Sharp isn't going anywhere for used tires and retreads who can't play. You don't give away 35-40 goal men because a team is a couple million over the cap in July. That is unless a fan takes over as the team General Manager. |
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mrpaulish
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 01.18.2010
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Sharp isn't going anywhere for used tires and retreads who can't play. You don't give away 35-40 goal men because a team is a couple million over the cap in July. That is unless a fan takes over as the team General Manager. - RickJ
Agreed RJ.
Even against the cap if teams wanted Sharp the Hawks would aquire valuable assets .
Sharp is a top line forward and you dont get one of those by bargain shopping .
Plus the Hawks have a lot of other options to become cap compliant ,
Id love to trade Sharp but only for young assets that are here already or almost NHL ready . |
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tomcat24
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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Agreed RJ.
Even against the cap if teams wanted Sharp the Hawks would aquire valuable assets .
Sharp is a top line forward and you dont get one of those by bargain shopping .
Plus the Hawks have a lot of other options to become cap compliant ,
Id love to trade Sharp but only for young assets that are here already or almost NHL ready . - mrpaulish
I agree. This could be a big move for the team going forward. A very good young player or 2 could really help us re-load especially since the next few years will be tough salary wise. My big fear is losing sharp Next year for a crappy return. |
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teh_HAWKZ
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.03.2012
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Agreed RJ.
Even against the cap if teams wanted Sharp the Hawks would aquire valuable assets .
Sharp is a top line forward and you dont get one of those by bargain shopping .
Plus the Hawks have a lot of other options to become cap compliant ,
Id love to trade Sharp but only for young assets that are here already or almost NHL ready . - mrpaulish
Either way someone significant has to go next season and Sharp makes the most sense. By then however we'll be an even worse position in addition to Sharp being a year older. It's quite possible he could get severely injured or just have a poop year then we'll really be screwed next season when someone has to go.
Not saying anything like that WILL happen but it does make you think. I'm all for keeping Sharp this season because it's doable but I just think this will be when we could get max value for him especially when he's coming off a career season.
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Is this his current level of play now or are your talking about his potential? - Canardhawk
Both. He's currently stuck behind a few players in Rockford in the depth chart. Also, it didn't help Svedberg that he had a few stints on IR last season.
Unless things change, I don't really see Svedberg being a part of the equation. |
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eburgio
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Location: SF, CA Joined: 07.18.2011
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Both. He's currently stuck behind a few players in Rockford in the depth chart. Also, it didn't help Svedberg that he had a few stints on IR last season.
Unless things change, I don't really see Svedberg being a part of the equation. - EKolb13
Is Dillon Fournier coming into camp this season? I don't how old he is, and I'm too lazy to look. If so, you'll have him and TVR. Johns and Clendening. That's 3 RH defensemen. If Dahlbeck starts down in the A, they should have a solid D corps. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Is Dillon Fournier coming into camp this season? I don't how old he is, and I'm too lazy to look. If so, you'll have him and TVR. Johns and Clendening. That's 3 RH defensemen. If Dahlbeck starts down in the A, they should have a solid D corps. - eburgio
Fournier should be going pro this season and if I'm not mistaken should be in Rockford this season.
Rockford should have Fournier, van Riemsdyk, Clendening, Svedberg, Johns, Brisebois, and Miskovic (AHL player/contract) in the mix there this coming season.
One or both of Cumiskey and Dahlbeck should be there too, depending on what happens with the big club's roster between now and camp. |
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eburgio
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Location: SF, CA Joined: 07.18.2011
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Fournier should be going pro this season and if I'm not mistaken should be in Rockford this season.
Rockford should have Fournier, van Riemsdyk, Clendening, Svedberg, Johns, Brisebois, and Miskovic (AHL player/contract) in the mix there this coming season.
One or both of Cumiskey and Dahlbeck should be there too, depending on what happens with the big club's roster between now and camp. - EKolb13
I've always wondered why, given all we hear about the Hawks prospects, why the team in Rockford isn't better. I know a lot of it is propaganda, and I realize it's not the main focus to create a winner but to be a feeder for the big club. Hopefully this season you'll see a few more W's and get in the playoffs. |
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eburgio
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Location: SF, CA Joined: 07.18.2011
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Fournier should be going pro this season and if I'm not mistaken should be in Rockford this season.
Rockford should have Fournier, van Riemsdyk, Clendening, Svedberg, Johns, Brisebois, and Miskovic (AHL player/contract) in the mix there this coming season.
One or both of Cumiskey and Dahlbeck should be there too, depending on what happens with the big club's roster between now and camp. - EKolb13
Is Brisebois worth a damn? |
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TyCamScore
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.09.2010
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Fournier should be going pro this season and if I'm not mistaken should be in Rockford this season.
Rockford should have Fournier, van Riemsdyk, Clendening, Svedberg, Johns, Brisebois, and Miskovic (AHL player/contract) in the mix there this coming season.
One or both of Cumiskey and Dahlbeck should be there too, depending on what happens with the big club's roster between now and camp. - EKolb13
Fournier and Brisebois were D partners/teammates in the Q. Maybe an under the radar equation in the Rundblad trade. |
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fvineze
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Joined: 08.10.2011
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Either way someone significant has to go next season and Sharp makes the most sense. By then however we'll be an even worse position in addition to Sharp being a year older. It's quite possible he could get severely injured or just have a poop year then we'll really be screwed next season when someone has to go.
Not saying anything like that WILL happen but it does make you think. I'm all for keeping Sharp this season because it's doable but I just think this will be when we could get max value for him especially when he's coming off a career season. - teh_HAWKZ
That's why we need to get several rookies in the lineup ASAP, start the process of separating wheat from the chaff and polish the gems and dump the turds. Very cap friendly strategy. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Fournier and Brisebois were D partners/teammates in the Q. Maybe an under the radar equation in the Rundblad trade. - TyCamScore
Is Brisebois worth a damn? - eburgio
Brisebois has a bomb of a shot and is a tough little SOB. However, the guy skates like he's trying to move through quicksand, and has no clue as to what to do without the puck. |
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TyCamScore
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.09.2010
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Brisebois has a bomb of a shot and is a tough little SOB. However, the guy skates like he's trying to move through quicksand, and has no clue as to what to do without the puck. - EKolb13
Eeek... maybe not good then. ha.
Fournier looks to be a player though eh? Have you seen much of him Eli? |
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teh_HAWKZ
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.03.2012
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That's why we need to get several rookies in the lineup ASAP, start the process of separating wheat from the chaff and polish the gems and dump the turds. Very cap friendly strategy. - fvineze
There's a disparity between a cap-friendly strategy and a championship-friendly strategy |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Eeek... maybe not good then. ha.
Fournier looks to be a player though eh? Have you seen much of him Eli? - TyCamScore
I haven't seen Fournier at all. I suppose I'll see what he's all about this Fall in Rockford. |
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eburgio
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Location: SF, CA Joined: 07.18.2011
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Nashville signing Ribiero and Derek Roy. Not that either of the two scare me as individuals, but makes the division even tougher...if that's possible.
Maybe if you win the central, you get a bye to the Western Conference Finals |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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That's why we need to get several rookies in the lineup ASAP, start the process of separating wheat from the chaff and polish the gems and dump the turds. Very cap friendly strategy. - fvineze
You can see Blackhawk prospects in person at the rookies camp in scrimmages beginning Wednesday. You can read up on them on wiz's draftsite.com. I just typed in a player's name in the small search box. You get a post draft review from that year.
Try Dillon Fournier, for example. Some good looking drafts from that 2012 class. Wonder how each will progress in 2014-15 season. A couple are collegiate players. |
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gnosox1986
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Location: FL Joined: 01.25.2012
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I agree. This could be a big move for the team going forward. A very good young player or 2 could really help us re-load especially since the next few years will be tough salary wise. My big fear is losing sharp Next year for a crappy return. - tomcat24
I know it was kicked around earlier in the comments about Sharp+ for Myers and people flipped saying "Sharp is better than Myers, why do that?". But to be honest, Myers would be a very good return, especially if we can dump other cap while at it... Say like Sharp, Versteep, Oduya, Rosival for Myers, Torrey Mitchell, and a Low prospect. Myers and Mitchell are both marginally cheaper than Versteeg and Sharp, and then you dump Oduya and Rosivals saleries out right.
That gives us 29/19/81, 20/Richards/88, and some combo of 11/28/65/Mitchell/16/Regin/Nordstrom on the Bottom 6 with 2/7, 4/Myers, Leddy/Clendening. That would be the best D Corp in the league by FAR. and it gives us CAP ROOM to even add if needed. Also, Myers would effectively replace Seabrook when his contract is up and Johns can come into the roster as a replacement to the bottom 4 as opposed to having to "replace seabs". |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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You can see Blackhawk prospects in person at the rookies camp in scrimmages beginning Wednesday. You can read up on them on wiz's draftsite.com. I just typed in a player's name in the small search box. You get a post draft review from that year.
Try Dillon Fournier, for example. Some good looking drafts from that 2012 class. Wonder how each will progress in 2014-15 season. A couple are collegiate players. - jhawk59
But, according to Kuc: Teravainen and most of the Blackhawks' top prospects won't be in scrimmages this week during camp.
He didn't say who (other than TT) wouldn't be involved. |
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gnosox1986
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Location: FL Joined: 01.25.2012
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But, according to Kuc: Teravainen and most of the Blackhawks' top prospects won't be in scrimmages this week during camp.
He didn't say who (other than TT) wouldn't be involved. - StLBravesFan
Teuvo Teravainen, Phillip Danault, Mark McNeill, Ryan Hartman, Dennis Rasmussen, Garret Ross, Alex Broadhurst, Matt Carey. Stephen Johns, Adam Clendening, Trevor van Riemsdyk, Mathieu Brisebois, Dillon Fournier, Mac Carruth and Kent Simpson. That is the list of "team C" guys who are at camp. These guys are scheduled for practices, but not scrimmages. |
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L_B_R
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Joined: 02.23.2014
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No Giroux? 26 y/o, 52% career FO%, PPG+ player the last 4 seasons, 61 points in 57 playoff games signed for a now modest (thanks to Kaner) $8.275 x 8 yr contract.
Kane is a top 10 forward without doubt.... Maybe not worth $10.5 million but certainly a guy I'd want on my team. - moylander
Giroux is one of the players I covet the most on other teams. There might be guys who have more accolades, but there's just something about him I like as a player and would love to have on my team. He's just really good. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I've always wondered why, given all we hear about the Hawks prospects, why the team in Rockford isn't better. I know a lot of it is propaganda, and I realize it's not the main focus to create a winner but to be a feeder for the big club. Hopefully this season you'll see a few more W's and get in the playoffs. - eburgio
Lots of reasons: coaching, the AHL-only veterans are not as good as those of other teams and, yes, the prospects are a bit overrated.
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I haven't seen Fournier at all. I suppose I'll see what he's all about this Fall in Rockford. - EKolb13
Big (tall), smooth-skating, good puck instincts, tends to overcommit offensively and get caught up ice. But the size and skating are there, and the basic instincts. |
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BlazinMike
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 05.08.2013
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Lots of reasons: coaching, the AHL-only veterans are not as good as those of other teams and, yes, the prospects are a bit overrated. - John Jaeckel
Lies! Blasphemy! |
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