Why would Stephen Johns be on the opening night roster?
- BlazinMike

He probably won't be but it certainly wouldn't surprise me that it is possible he comes in and has a fabulous camp, and makes them think.

He has all around game...let's see if he can execute it at NHL speed...

Clendening isn't ready yet? 2 ahl all star appearances. Seems like he's ready now?
- Just5

nope.

Why doesn't this playmaking translate into more points?

I mean 29 goals last year, 23 last full season before that?

Seriously?
- RoloTahmasee

493 points in 515 regular season games are a lot of points to have at age 25 playing a lot on a lacking 2nd line

91 points in 93 playoff games

2 stanley cups
1 conn smythe

need i say more?

493 points in 515 regular season games are a lot of points to have at age 25 playing a lot on a lacking 2nd line

91 points in 93 playoff games

2 stanley cups
1 conn smythe

need i say more?
- EnzoD

Nope.

except:
Rookie of the Year
Missed the last 13 games of the year last season (kept his points lower)

493 points in 515 regular season games are a lot of points to have at age 25 playing a lot on a lacking 2nd line

91 points in 93 playoff games

2 stanley cups
1 conn smythe

need i say more?
- EnzoD

It's starting to be rookie week areound here, RoloTahmasee

Fair enough...

I don't think Kane gets this much on the open market though. I agree with you that maybe the Hawks paid him an extra 30-40m for his Playoff prowess.

Edit: my math is off, thought his deal was 10 years. He maybe got an extra 10-12m.
- djamon

No offense, but duh he got paid in part for his playoff prowess. That's the most important part of the year and it's a no brainer that it factored into how much he's going to get paid. Did you see him in the LA series?

And honestly, you can cite all the numbers you want in terms of goals, assists, points, etc, but realistically, the only number that really matters in the end is the number of cups a player helped their team get (I mean really helped). Kane was instrumental in bringing 2 cups to a city that hadn't seen one is almost half a century, is one of the faces of the franchise/revival, and there just aren't any other players signed to a new contract in recent years that can say the same thing. Kopitar will be the next elite player to have 2 cups on his resume so we'll see what he gets. Either a player gets paid because of their contributions to winning cups (Kane) or they get paid for getting a lot of points/goals/whatever (Ovechkin).

Again, if Malkin a year ago got $9.5m, then a general increase of about $1m with how much the cap is going up sounds pretty reasonable to me. I'm not arguing that Kane is better than Malkin (I don't think he is tbh), but that's the increasing rate for success on some level.

- darkman

He's just gonna dance

It's ok, wouldn't expect a Leaves fan to know poop about it anyways.
- Ogilthorpe2

Good one!

No offense, but duh he got paid in part for his playoff prowess. That's the most important part of the year and it's a no brainer that it factored into how much he's worth.

And honestly, you can cite all the numbers you want in terms of goals, assists, points, etc, but realistically, the only number that really matters in the end is the number of cups a player helped their team get. Kane was instrumental in bring 2 cups in a new cap era, is one of the faces of the franchise, and there just aren't any other players needing to sign in recent years that can say the same thing. Kopitar will be the next elite player to have 2 cups on his resume so we'll see what he can get. So a player either gets paid because of their contributions to winning cups (Kane) or they get paid for getting a lot of points/goals/whatever (Ovechkin).

Again, if Malkin a year ago got $9.5m, then a general increase of about $1m with how much the cap is going up sounds reasonable. I'm not arguing that Kane is better than Malkin (I don't think he is tbh), but that's the increasing rate for success on some level.
- L_B_R

Hey...justify it all you want. He's had some great past success in the playoffs and he got a nice little pay bump because of it. But that's not a predictor he'll keep doing it.

He's overpaid, but Hawks fans seem perfectly fine with it so why do I care? Just as long as you don't go thinking he'd ever get you Eberle, Yak, Klefbom and 2 1sts from Edmonton OR Myers, 3 1sts and 2 top prospects from Buffalo.

We're all fiercely protective of our players, so have at it.

Hey...justify it all you want. He's had some great past success in the playoffs and he got a nice little pay bump because of it. But that's not a predictor he'll keep doing it.

He's overpaid, but Hawks fans seem perfectly fine with it so why do I care? Just as long as you don't go thinking he'd ever get you Eberle, Yak, Klefbom and 2 1sts from Edmonton OR Myers, 3 1sts and 2 top prospects from Buffalo.

We're all fiercely protective of our players, so have at it.
- djamon

Every player in the league is overpaid. He's not getting traded anyway, so trade proposals of any kind are ridiculous.

493 points in 515 regular season games are a lot of points to have at age 25 playing a lot on a lacking 2nd line

91 points in 93 playoff games

2 stanley cups
1 conn smythe

need i say more?
- EnzoD

Would have figured the guy with the highest cap hit in the league would be more than a 1 dimensional point per game player...

The hawks have been so deep they would have won 2 cups with Evander Kane on the wing... That make him worth 10.5 million too?

No offense, but duh he got paid in part for his playoff prowess. That's the most important part of the year and it's a no brainer that it factored into how much he's going to get paid. Did you see him in the LA series?

And honestly, you can cite all the numbers you want in terms of goals, assists, points, etc, but realistically, the only number that really matters in the end is the number of cups a player helped their team get (I mean really helped). Kane was instrumental in bringing 2 cups to a city that hadn't seen one is almost half a decade, is one of the faces of the franchise/revival, and there just aren't any other players signed to a new contract in recent years that can say the same thing. Kopitar will be the next elite player to have 2 cups on his resume so we'll see what he gets. Either a player gets paid because of their contributions to winning cups (Kane) or they get paid for getting a lot of points/goals/whatever (Ovechkin).

Again, if Malkin a year ago got $9.5m, then a general increase of about $1m with how much the cap is going up sounds pretty reasonable to me. I'm not arguing that Kane is better than Malkin (I don't think he is tbh), but that's the increasing rate for success on some level.
- L_B_R

Half a century

Would have figured the guy with the highest cap hit in the league would be more than a 1 dimensional point per game player...

The hawks have been so deep they would have won 2 cups with Evander Kane on the wing... That make him worth 10.5 million too?
- RoloTahmasee

Hey...justify it all you want. He's had some great past success in the playoffs and he got a nice little pay bump because of it. But that's not a predictor he'll keep doing it.

He's overpaid, but Hawks fans seem perfectly fine with it so why do I care? Just as long as you don't go thinking he'd ever get you Eberle, Yak, Klefbom and 2 1sts from Edmonton OR Myers, 3 1sts and 2 top prospects from Buffalo.

We're all fiercely protective of our players, so have at it.
- djamon

Why do you care lol? I mean, what you see as justification, I see as trying to use small words to clarify a pretty simple economical situation. It's fine that you don't get it or agree, but your condescension just makes you come off as butthurt rather than someone looking for logical discussion.

Though lbr, Buffalo probably would pay more for him from a pure marketing perspective. The amount of money the Hawks generate in part because of him is crazy, think of what it would be in his home town.

Half a century
- darkman

Oh noes, I've allowed my standards of typing to be degraded by the people I reply to

Lol seriously though, ugh typos. I those buggers. Thanks for pointing it out, I'll fix it :3

Would have figured the guy with the highest cap hit in the league would be more than a 1 dimensional point per game player...

The hawks have been so deep they would have won 2 cups with Evander Kane on the wing... That make him worth 10.5 million too?
- RoloTahmasee

You really need to watch more hockey my man.

You really need to watch more hockey my man.
- darkman

He's just (frank)ing with you. For poops and giggles.

Would have figured the guy with the highest cap hit in the league would be more than a 1 dimensional point per game player...

The hawks have been so deep they would have won 2 cups with Evander Kane on the wing... That make him worth 10.5 million too?
- RoloTahmasee

*yawn*

Why do you care lol? I mean, what you see as justification, I see as trying to use small words to clarify a pretty simple economical situation. It's fine that you don't get it or agree, but your condensation just makes you come off as butthurt rather than someone looking for logical discussion.

Though lbr, Buffalo probably would pay more for him from a pure marketing perspective. The amount of money the Hawks generate in part because of him is crazy, think of what it would be in his home town.
- L_B_R

Lol @ condensation. I AM all moist now.

Lol @ condensation. I AM all moist now.
- djamon

I was moist during the 17 seconds against Boston in 2013 and in overtime in Philly in 2010. What makes a leafs fan moist?

I was moist during the 17 seconds against Boston in 2013 and in overtime in Philly in 2010. What makes a leafs fan moist?
- darkman

Game 7. 2013 against Boston.

THE TEARS!

Lol @ condensation. I AM all moist now.
- djamon

Heh :3

Game 7. 2013 against Boston.

THE TEARS!
- Elbows15

He probably won't be but it certainly wouldn't surprise me that it is possible he comes in and has a fabulous camp, and makes them think.

He has all around game...let's see if he can execute it at NHL speed...
- wiz1901

Needs to be good enough at puck retrieval and movement after a dump in. Repetition millions if time for some before they automatically know where to go, what to do with puck in that situation. This is one area of concern. But lots to like. If rosy or Brookbank is still here, Johnsvwill not be rushed. Also I bet that thevRunblad situation is resolved before John's ever plays a regular NHL shift (assuming no injuries). Do not be too surprised if Rundblad sticks around for a while. Just how often used and how effective is probably on Q shoulders as much as the player himself. Q is hard headed on defensively being sound. Something both Johns and are not. They may improve in this area but that happens better if they play regularly somewhere. Johns will in Rockford. Do not know ufvRundblad will go there happily or at all.

U mad bro?
- Dannyboy

I'm not your "bro" and it wasn't directed at you.