I think that is the point everyone seems to overlook. Teams evolve around a core group. You need 5 or 6 very good players in key positions. The entire discussion is incredibly false. LeBron played for Cleveland, he left them, they are a part of the rust belt and the economy is painfully depressed. This is a story of a tprodigal son returning to the roots, the team and the city he abandoned. All sports fans are excited by the story.

But it is purely fanciful to think that there is any kind of equivalence to the vague notion that one day, possibly, maybe Stamkos might come to Toronto when he becomes a UFA. Why do Leaf fans pimp themselves into becoming the easiest mark in the game.
- spatso

You're trying too hard and are coming across as bitter, jealous and angry. Fact is Stamkos himself got the ball rolling on this one so it should be no concern to a Sens fan who thinks Pageau>Giroux if Leaf fans want to discuss or react to events Stamkos initiated.

ya but when the last time they draft someone of stamkos ilk?

1986 ish i would guess.
- dmnted

Weren't lucky enough to have someone fall into their laps like that. Was that great drafting skills by Tampa to take Stamkos 1st overall? Smart pick by Islanders to take Tavares #1? It was just the obvious choice. Leafs have done alright with the picks they've had imo. Though I'm not a fan of the Biggs pick and questionable Gauthier pick.

i don't know all of the issues, but isn't the main piece that the players don't have to pay income tax in florida, if that is true then they are saving millions of dollars on those lucrative contracts
- Flyfreaky

I just read up a bit on it.. It's not a big difference apparently.

i don't know all of the issues, but isn't the main piece that the players don't have to pay income tax in florida, if that is true then they are saving millions of dollars on those lucrative contracts
- Flyfreaky

Florida does not have a state income tax because our state makes so much money due to tourism... thanks Canadians. With that said players have to pay taxes in every state they play that has them. So they are saving about 14-20% on 44-45 games they play here in Tampa and the rat nest down south. I have read that a contract for 5MM in Tampa will save a player around 250-300K compared to NY during the Callahan dealings. I don't know enough of Toronto's tax laws to figure out the difference. Hopefully that helps.

As if Stamkos would want to come to Toronto

1. fan pressure is unbearable for most
2. not even close to winning a cup / not even close to making the playoffs
3. Leafs suck
4. Leafs suck
5. Leafs suck
- Garnie

With Stamkos on the team points 2-5 change dramatically.

As if Stamkos would want to come to Toronto

1. fan pressure is unbearable for most
2. not even close to winning a cup / not even close to making the playoffs
3. Leafs suck
4. Leafs suck
5. Leafs suck
- Garnie

You are a strange little man...

Stammer on the Leafs would easily make them a contender.

I think that is the point everyone seems to overlook. Teams evolve around a core group. You need 5 or 6 very good players in key positions. The entire discussion is incredibly false. LeBron played for Cleveland, he left them, they are a part of the rust belt and the economy is painfully depressed. This is a story of a prodigal son returning to the roots, the team and the city he abandoned. All sports fans are excited by the story.

But it is purely fanciful to think that there is any kind of equivalence to the vague notion that one day, possibly, maybe Stamkos might come to Toronto when he becomes a UFA. Why do Leaf fans pimp themselves into becoming the easiest mark in the game.
- spatso

Which team you going to jump ship too after Ryan leaves next year and Sens management still refuses to spend money?

Florida does not have a state income tax because our state makes so much money due to tourism... thanks Canadians. With that said players have to pay taxes in every state they play that has them. So they are saving about 14-20% on 44-45 games they play here in Tampa and the rat nest down south. I have read that a contract for 5MM in Tampa will save a player around 250-300K compared to NY during the Callahan dealings. I don't know enough of Toronto's tax laws to figure out the difference. Hopefully that helps.
- stammerman

thanks man, just checked that out as well and you're info is correct

so stamkos will roll anywhere from 13-15m in next contract and could save about 1m on income tax break in tampa, not chump change imo

It better (frank)ing be Bob Cole!!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

oh baby! he should retire.

oh baby! he should retire.
- dmnted

With Hughson as an alternative...no...no he shouldn't.

oh baby! he should retire.
- dmnted

Jim Hughson is pathetic. Bob Cole is the voice most fans grew up listening to.

As if Stamkos would want to come to Toronto

1. fan pressure is unbearable for most
2. not even close to winning a cup / not even close to making the playoffs
3. Leafs suck
4. Leafs suck
5. Leafs suck
- Garnie

You're trolling leafs' fans

Perhaps the lure of coming to the leafs may have faded for quieter hockey markets where the players can lead their lives relatively without notice
- MTL1

Thanks for the generalization.

You're trolling leafs' fans
- MTL1

Actually he's just talking about his team.

Speaking of your team, wrong turn? Sticky finger click?

With Stamkos on the team points 2-5 change dramatically.
- systemtool

not sure 1 guy can change it dramatically

nice to dream about it

Stamkos will sign for 8 years in TB and then he will sign his next contract in T.O.

You're trying too hard and are coming across as bitter, jealous and angry. Fact is Stamkos himself got the ball rolling on this one so it should be no concern to a Sens fan who thinks Pageau>Giroux if Leaf fans want to discuss or react to events Stamkos initiated.
- systemtool

I forgot just how pathetic Leaf fans could allow themselves to become. The thread is exploding over a possible, maybe somebody loves us. Suck it up guys. Your looking incredibly feeble begging for attention.

You are a strange little man...

Stammer on the Leafs would easily make them a contender.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

oh come on....Stamkos on the leafs maybe helps him them make the playoffs...and have him wondering why he left the sunshine

Thanks for the generalization.
- ClarkHitsBell

Latest case in point is spezza taking a pass on his home town team

I forgot just how pathetic Leaf fans could allow themselves to become. The thread is exploding over a possible, maybe somebody loves us. Suck it up guys. Your looking incredibly feeble begging for attention.
- spatso

pathetic?

A sens fan with a Leafs as his fav team?

lol

Latest case in point is spezza taking a pass on his home town team
- MTL1

Not comparable.

I forgot just how pathetic Leaf fans could allow themselves to become. The thread is exploding over a possible, maybe somebody loves us. Suck it up guys. Your looking incredibly feeble begging for attention.
- spatso

Speaking of pathetic and attention seeking, youre here crying and whining because Stamkos tweeted something related to the Leafs. Fans are justified to discuss it. How this is relevant to you is a mystery. Suck it up. He tweeted it, not us.

You're the same guy who said Pageau > Giroux and you're trolling us?

oh come on....Stamkos on the leafs maybe helps him them make the playoffs...and have him wondering why he left the sunshine
- Garnie

I honestly would hate to live in Florida. Rednecks and insane heat is not a suitable combo for me.

Jim Hughson is pathetic. Bob Cole is the voice most fans grew up listening to.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

And he's senile. I often think he is calling a different game than I am watchng.

All time great, but should have retired at least a decade ago

I honestly would hate to live in Florida. Rednecks and insane heat is not a suitable combo for me.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Soooo... Summer in Alberts working out for you then?