I enjoy zeroing in some players and watch how they play, that is the beauty of watching the games.
- LeafMan

ya but do you even watch the games bro?

grabo .593 ppg
kadri .638 ppg
bozak .618 ppg
bolland .509 ppg

kadri plays with lupul on second line w pp minutes
bozak plays with kessel and jvr
bolland played on CHI on a cup winning team
grabo played with kulemin and macarthur as his best 2 wingers when leafs were poop

face offs 53.98 % - grabo

48.7 - bozak
- big_dion

nice. right now i'm picturing dozzer having a minor seizure in front of his screen.

ya but do you even watch the games bro?
- DoubleDown

My advance watching stats say yes.

Advanced stats give you a good base when you're not able to watch a player play. But you can't have poor stats and be playing good, doesn't make sense.
- peddy-93

Look at Dan Girardi.

People here wanted him over Phaneuf this last season... generally gets pretty awesome reviews about his play.

His corsirel was worse than Schenn's this season

nice. right now i'm picturing dozzer having a minor seizure in front of his screen.
- DoubleDown

Not to worry I poured beer on him, he is very alert now and licking the floor.

You know what is the most embarrassing thing about the amount of Leaf fans that still whine about Grabbo?

That not one single Habs fan, despite that team not having an abundance of centremen either, ever expresses even the smallest hint of regret at trading him away.

it's not like baseball. individual ballplayers can be analyzed on their numbers only. but hockey players have a symbiotic relationship. their stats are dependent on 11 other hockey players on the ice.
- DoubleDown

Different teams can alter their stats of course, playing for the Leafs you're Corsi will be a lot lower than playing for the Kings. COL isnt a good possession team either, so a 48% corsi for ROR isn't that bad. Like I said, people cant solely judge on a players performance on one stat alone without looking at other considerations.

You know what is the most embarrassing thing about the amount of Leaf fans that still whine about Grabbo?

That not one single Habs fan, despite that team not having an abundance of centremen either, ever expresses even the smallest hint of regret at trading him away.


- mcleafs

A big stink over a mediocre player, imo.

I enjoy zeroing in some players and watch how they play, that is the beauty of watching the games.
- LeafMan

So we agree that Kessel is a FLOATER!!!!

LOL!!!




I'm just kidding.

grabo .593 ppg
kadri .638 ppg
bozak .618 ppg
bolland .509 ppg

kadri plays with lupul on second line w pp minutes
bozak plays with kessel and jvr
bolland played on CHI on a cup winning team
grabo played with kulemin and macarthur as his best 2 wingers when leafs were poop

face offs 53.98 % - grabo

48.7 - bozak
- big_dion

Like I said, stats looked good.

Play looked like horse capybara poop.

Look at Dan Girardi.

People here wanted him over Phaneuf this last season... generally gets pretty awesome reviews about his play.

His corsirel was worse than Schenn's this season
- Feeling Glucky?

But we all would take Girardi over Schenn. It's not a perfect stat and you can't only use corsi without other stats, like Girardis QoC compared to Schenns.

So we agree that Kessel is a FLOATER!!!!

LOL!!!




I'm just kidding.
- Pecafan Fan

My only gripe with him is his board play in his own end.

Different teams can alter their stats of course, playing for the Leafs you're Corsi will be a lot lower than playing for the Kings. COL isnt a good possession team either, so a 48% corsi for ROR isn't that bad. Like I said, people cant solely judge on a players performance on one stat alone without looking at other considerations.
- peddy-93

Thank you!

You know what is the most embarrassing thing about the amount of Leaf fans that still whine about Grabbo?

That not one single Habs fan, despite that team not having an abundance of centremen either, ever expresses even the smallest hint of regret at trading him away.


- mcleafs

Well in Montreal, at the time of the trade, there were already had 2 Grabovkis in Koivu and Plekanec...

But we all would take Girardi over Schenn. It's not a perfect stat and you can't only use corsi without other stats, like Girardis QoC compared to Schenns.
- peddy-93

I'm with you.

But lots of people won't do that.

Biggest issue with the corsicans is the way they glob onto that one stat, and don't look for context.

Like I said, stats looked good.

Play looked like horse capybara poop.
- Feeling Glucky?

you ever play

then you would know playing 11 mins a game with 0 pp time making 5.5 is a disaster in the making.

Better to use stats for a larger sample rather than just a game. Every player turns the puck over that leads to goals.
- peddy-93

exactly...rolling 10 game is used .. but not really worth trying to explain..some peoples minds are made up.

A big stink over a mediocre player, imo.
- LeafMan

mediocre ok fair enough

that means every 50-60 point player we have is medicore and can be bought out

bye bye everyone but kessel

you ever play

then you would know playing 11 mins a game with 0 pp time making 5.5 is a disaster in the making.
- big_dion

It's a shame he wasn't given the opportunity to play an offensive role at the beginning of the season.

You know what is the most embarrassing thing about the amount of Leaf fans that still whine about Grabbo?

That not one single Habs fan, despite that team not having an abundance of centremen either, ever expresses even the smallest hint of regret at trading him away.


- mcleafs

wasting a buyout is embarassing just because our horrible coach doesnt like a player.

I enjoy zeroing in some players and watch how they play, that is the beauty of watching the games.
- LeafMan

I watch the refs

I watch the refs
- robin_steele264

how many TVs do you go through per year?

I'm with you.

But lots of people won't do that.

Biggest issue with the corsicans is the way they glob onto that one stat, and don't look for context.
- Feeling Glucky?

I agree, it's not a good thing to NOT use corsi, but its not a good thing when that's all you look at.

I watch the refs
- robin_steele264

And we know how those guys love to decide the outcome of leafs games

It's a shame he wasn't given the opportunity to play an offensive role at the beginning of the season.
- Feeling Glucky?

its a shame he was our shutdown line C and we made the playoffs

i hated taking boston to game 7.