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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Dion plays on our 1st PP unit, our first ES unit and our 1st or 2nd PK unit.

Please explain to me why we want him sitting for 5 minutes?

We have Orr and McLaren - they sit on the bench all game. Might as well have them sit in the penalty box - it's just another bench.

- Atomic Wedgie

Cause he plays too many minutes anyways lol..
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
Dion plays on our 1st PP unit, our first ES unit and our 1st or 2nd PK unit.

Please explain to me why we want him sitting for 5 minutes?

We have Orr and McLaren - they sit on the bench all game. Might as well have them sit in the penalty box - it's just another bench.

- Atomic Wedgie



He's the captain. Captains fight their teams battles, or else your not a good leader.... Except for some captains, they don't count in this.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
If you're a captain you are required and expected to fight..... Except for some captains. If you're a big strong guy that is important like lucic it's smart not to fight scrubs..... Except for some bug strong important guys.
- burn

You forgot to mention that Phaneuf sucks.

Carlyle plays him too much.

Further proof he sucks.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
Yep, if Dion fights a bunch of times and breaks his hand in a fight, that's a big problem for the team. It's bad strategy for Dion to fight. If I was the coach I'd tell him not to.
- Zezel




Not to mention that you don't want your main D-man sitting for five, especially when he's probably taking a scrub with him. Now if it's against someone like Crosby, Ovie etc then you consider taking the offset
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
French - Fact check.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/878

- Rockhead_37

Okay I know. But whatever lol
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
If you're a captain you are required and expected to fight..... Except for some captains. If you're a big strong guy that is important like lucic it's smart not to fight scrubs..... Except for some bug strong important guys.
- burn


exactly

brown in LA will fight you, part of his leadership skill set

crosby isnt fighting anyone.. he leads with skill
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:46 PM ET
exactly

brown in LA will fight you, part of his leadership skill set

crosby isnt fighting anyone.. he leads with skill

- Dozzer




Regardless of how you feel about dion, pretty absurd some of the criticism he takes... The red bull hat? Come on. Not fighting durning a pk? Really.

the poster said that captains should be fighting their teams battles, standing up for teammates. Total nonsense.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:46 PM ET
exactly

brown in LA will fight you, part of his leadership skill set

crosby isnt fighting anyone.. he leads with skill

- Dozzer

Does that make Clarkson a leader on the team?

Thank goodness - justification for his high salary!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:48 PM ET
Regardless of how you feel about dion, pretty absurd some of the criticism he takes... The red bull hat? Come on. Not fighting durning a pk? Really.

the poster said that captains should be fighting their teams battles, standing up for teammates. Total nonsense.

- burn


they should.. but that doesnt mean dropping the gloves

i am not a big fan of DP, but he is the leafs best d-man, the leafs simply cannot afford to have him in the box.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
Regardless of how you feel about dion, pretty absurd some of the criticism he takes... The red bull hat? Come on. Not fighting durning a pk? Really.

the poster said that captains should be fighting their teams battles, standing up for teammates. Total nonsense.

- burn

I'm not particularly crazy about the Red Bull hat, but that's on the NHL and NHLPA, not Dion.

It's indicative of the two sides not working together to promote the game. NFL insists all players wear NFL merch - because it promotes the NFL and puts more $ into the pot (for owners and players to share).
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
Does that make Clarkson a leader on the team?

Thank goodness - justification for his high salary!

- Atomic Wedgie


no no no

not what i was getting at.

but in fairness.. if clarkson can get his game back together i would put him in the leadership core of the team
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
They clean it out real good before the guys drink champagne out of it
- burn



Didn't u tell me they would give assistant job to Spott???...


Not listening to u anymore....
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
no no no

not what i was getting at.

but in fairness.. if clarkson can get his game back together i would put him in the leadership core of the team

- Dozzer

One step at a time, Dozzie.

One step at a time.

Oh Lord, please let him get his game back together...
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
Regardless of how you feel about dion, pretty absurd some of the criticism he takes... The red bull hat? Come on. Not fighting durning a pk? Really.

the poster said that captains should be fighting their teams battles, standing up for teammates. Total nonsense.

- burn

like the criticism Kane gets in the peg, for putting a pic on twitter of himself holding money he won in a casino during the off-season.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
they should.. but that doesnt mean dropping the gloves

i am not a big fan of DP, but he is the leafs best d-man, the leafs simply cannot afford to have him in the box.

- Dozzer



Yup.
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
Our top D pairing is going to look better this year simply for the same reason our Top 6 is going to: the overuse will end because we'll be able to rely on the bottom half more.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm not particularly crazy about the Red Bull hat, but that's on the NHL and NHLPA, not Dion.

It's indicative of the two sides not working together to promote the game. NFL insists all players wear NFL merch - because it promotes the NFL and puts more $ into the pot (for owners and players to share).

- Atomic Wedgie



Agreed. Don't like it either... IMO it ugly as poop, but doesn't make him a bad leader. Not the only one who doesn't wear team apparel, but only one that takes heat for it.


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
Didn't u tell me they would give assistant job to Spott???...


Not listening to u anymore....

- Fruitcakenipple



Swing and a miss there!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'm not particularly crazy about the Red Bull hat, but that's on the NHL and NHLPA, not Dion.

It's indicative of the two sides not working together to promote the game. NFL insists all players wear NFL merch - because it promotes the NFL and puts more $ into the pot (for owners and players to share).

- Atomic Wedgie


Dion is sponsored by Red Bull.

edit: http://www.thehockeyagency.com/services (second slide)
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
Oh and BTW, Shanahan is the freakin King, I love what he's doing.

Official word
Shanahan - "Carlyle and Nonis are picking the assistants".
Carlyle and Nonis - "YEAH BABY"

Unofficial what-actually-happens
Shanahan - "Hey guys, you need to pick 2, and you can choose between Spott, Horachek and YOU'RE FIRED"
Carlyle - "But wait, those are both head coaches who just performed really well last year, does that mean you're just gearing up potential replacements?"
Shanahan - *smiles coyly*
Nonis - "SOUNDS GOOD TO ME MASTER!"
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:57 PM ET


Not to mention that you don't want your main D-man sitting for five, especially when he's probably taking a scrub with him. Now if it's against someone like Crosby, Ovie etc then you consider taking the offset

- lumlums

I guess it's okay for Kessel or JVR to get a concussion because someone is running around. Poor wee Dion might scratch his paw. Oweee
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
I guess it's okay for Kessel or JVR to get a concussion because someone is running around. Poor wee Dion might scratch his paw. Oweee
- Arctic_AARDVARK

When was the last time fighting prevented a concussion?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
When was the last time fighting prevented a concussion?
- daeth

That's impossible to answer..
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
I guess it's okay for Kessel or JVR to get a concussion because someone is running around. Poor wee Dion might scratch his paw. Oweee
- Arctic_AARDVARK



Here's a clue.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
When was the last time fighting prevented a concussion?
- daeth



Fights often occur after guy gets concussed... Also fighter get concussions. I'd say zero.
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