what your saying is true but only because the players know they will get a penalty if they do it.
- Sammich

could always make it a discretionary call like diving. would be pretty obvious. if a guy does it under pressure, penalty. if a guy does it when he has all sorts of time... not so much. i think we just all feel the same when we see one of our guys whistled for it. and even when the call goes our way, it feels cheap.

I agreed wholeheartedly.
- TML60

ya treat it like icing... No change. Would be much better, and takes,care of the issue of accidental ones... Not a big deal

fine, then make it illegal while on the PK and during the last 2 minutes of a period. but we all know that 90% of the calls are just accidental misplays. in most cases, the call is simply too harsh based on the action.
- DoubleDown

Even if it's a misplay though, it's a team failing to clear their zone because of pressure or fatigue. With no penalty, it then rewards that team by giving them a line change that they probably desperately need. With the penalty in place, you either have to clear your zone legitimately, get scored on, or take a penalty.

All my work will be for naught.
- AdamFrench

Do you like I am wrong ? That is the sad part.

Maybe it's the morning fog-brain, but does it seem odd to anyone else that they signed their 3rd round pick from this year, Valiev, to an ELC already?

I don't get it

could always make it a discretionary call like diving. would be pretty obvious. if a guy does it under pressure, penalty. if a guy does it when he has all sorts of time... not so much. i think we just all feel the same when we see one of our guys whistled for it. and even when the call goes our way, it feels cheap.
- DoubleDown

This, and I'd also make it the last 5 minutes of the period.

Really, it's pretty obvious. Hemmed in your own zone for the last 40 seconds and you dump it over the glass? Yea, that's a penalty.

I'd say no
tallboy are about 491 ml ish
a pint goes down nice
- zazzle

a tall boy is a British pint, 20 oz.

Trade Proposal

Tor:

Phaneuf
Lupul
Kadri
2015 2nd Rounder

for

CBJ

Johanssen
Tyutin

Who says no?
- H8terade

who's 2nd is that since Toronto does have one next year.
CBJ has it.

Dubinsky just got 5.85 a year for 6 years. Johansen will be getting north of 6 now. Guaranteed.

Nope there isn't. We become part of Russia, before we get a player like that.
- bixll

its either russia or china eventually anyways

who's 2nd is that since Toronto does have one next year.
CBJ has it.
- zazzle

Fine. 2016 2nd rounder.

Dubinsky just got 5.85 a year for 6 years. Johansen will be getting north of 6 now. Guaranteed.
- H8terade

I have always wanted Dubinsky. Thought he was always a good 2nd line player. But for 6 million over 6 years. Wow.

Maybe it's the morning fog-brain, but does it seem odd to anyone else that they signed their 3rd round pick from this year, Valiev, to an ELC already?

I don't get it
- TheThrill

maybe they see him on the marlies... especially if their intention is to graduate a defender or two

its either russia or china eventually anyways
- Sammich

Not in our life time..

This, and I'd also make it the last 5 minutes of the period.

Really, it's pretty obvious. Hemmed in your own zone for the last 40 seconds and you dump it over the glass? Yea, that's a penalty.
- mcleafs

still think it should just be the same as,icing. No penalty, just can't change. Its essentially the exact same play when pressured. Makes no sense for one to be a penalty and the other not.

still think it should just be the same as,icing. No penalty, just can't change. Its essentially the exact same play when pressured. Makes mo sense for one to be a penalty and the other not.
- Badge

Then the D man better hit the glass..

maybe they see him on the marlies... especially if their intention is to graduate a defender or two
- Dozzer

could be a money thng. Maybe kid is hard up, needs the signing bonus to be able to,eat and train properly...

or they want to make Sur she DOESNT go to college

still think it should just be the same as,icing. No penalty, just can't change. Its essentially the exact same play when pressured. Makes mo sense for one to be a penalty and the other not.
- Badge

This idea of no line change makes some sense to me. It either has to be a penalty, or no line change. It can't be just a legal play, pucks will be flying over the glass all the time.

This idea of no line change makes some sense to me. It either has to be a penalty, or no line change. It can't be just a legal play, pucks will be flying over the glass all the time.
- Zezel

yup, and the icing rule has worked great. It is a clear advantage to get fresh guys against tired guys and many goals result from it, but the 5on3's that often result from puck over glass just feel dirty.

still think it should just be the same as,icing. No penalty, just can't change. Its essentially the exact same play when pressured. Makes no sense for one to be a penalty and the other not.
- Badge

Good point, you're right.

could be a money thng. Maybe kid is hard up, needs the signing bonus to be able to,eat and train properly...

or they want to make Sur she DOESNT go to college
- Badge

well since he isnt from the OHL he is AHL eligible correct?

he is also russian.. bring him here.. get him into the NA development system and keep him out of the KHLs clutches.

I don't mind it because it forces guys to really try to keep the puck in play when they are getting crushed in the defensive zone. It always sucks when a guy takes that penalty because we all know it wasn't intentional, but if they take away the penalty it will happen intentionally. It'll be like a quarterback throwing the ball away under pressure.
- Zezel

then why not just make it like icing? defensive zone faceoff, no line change?

zezel

This idea of no line change makes some sense to me. It either has to be a penalty, or no line change. It can't be just a legal play, pucks will be flying over the glass all the time.
- Zezel

they do need to start dealing the the delay of faceoffs after icings,though. But 10 secs isn't huge.

well since he isnt from the OHL he is AHL eligible correct?

he is also russian.. bring him here.. get him into the NA development system and keep him out of the KHLs clutches.
- Dozzer

He's in the WHL, he's in there for another year.

well since he isnt from the OHL he is AHL eligible correct?

he is also russian.. bring him here.. get him into the NA development system and keep him out of the KHLs clutches.
- Dozzer

nope, CHL agreement. Not OHL.applies,to all 3 Canadian Jr leagues