Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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(frank) the shootout. - Feeling Glucky?
hate it, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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That's one of the biggests gifs on the worlds most rigged sport.
The penalty kicks are stupid.
Wait.. Habs fan.. this is expected. - CanadianBodmon
you're right. we should all be more like you. the world needs more whiners. there aren't enough 12 year old girls. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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I'm not disagreeing that it should go.
Should be 60 minutes + 1 OT 20 minute, 5-on-5 period.
Regulation win is 3 points, OT win is 2 points, OT loss/tie is 1 point, regulation loss is 0.
You encourage teams to win in regulation, or to at least go for the win in OT, while still leaving a bit of reward for a hard-fought tie. - Feeling Glucky?
2 points win. 1 point tie. 0 points loss. Rewarding losing teams might help teams appear competitive for longer but it's still rewarding a losing team. |
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Continuous OT would be nice, but the american market can't handle it, apparently. - Feeling Glucky?
man if they cut from a game to show a horse race then something isn't right.
granted it was the kentucky derby but still. hodge got his arse canned because of the same thing well mostly for flipping his pen on air in discuss with the network. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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2 points win. 1 point tie. 0 points loss. Rewarding losing teams might help teams appear competitive for longer but it's still rewarding a losing team. - JohnFergusonJr
no ties, you either win or lose |
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Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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We did a inside the blue line 3v3. I was an expert. hands of a god. shot of hercules. size of a normal human being and smarts like jake gardiner
kidding.. I see the routes in my head like a savant. Like in Forza with breaking and driving line. - CanadianBodmon
My goodness you sound awesome!
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Which is why you force them to play 5 on 5 for 20 minutes. Teams will be forced to make sure their 3rd and 4th lines have better players (this solution gets rid of some goons too). Somebody is going to get a good match-up eventually. - JohnFergusonJr
owners don't want this
players won't want it
99% of fans won't want this |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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no ties, you either win or lose - Flyfreaky
id be fine with all games being 2 points. SO loss? you get nothing. tough poop. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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owners don't want this
players won't want it
99% of fans won't want this - DoubleDown
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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2 points win. 1 point tie. 0 points loss. Rewarding losing teams might help teams appear competitive for longer but it's still rewarding a losing team. - JohnFergusonJr
(frank) it... a win is a win.
Nothing else should be rewarded.
No shootout, 20 minute 5-on-5.
Watch teams go for the win, if the only other option is 0 points. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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id be fine with all games being 2 points. SO loss? you get nothing. tough poop. - DoubleDown
yes, just like all the other major sports leagues |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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im not crazy about the shootout but given that there are 82 games in the season, i just don't think it makes a difference. i guess i don't dislike it enough to want it changed. i see your point though. - DoubleDown
Shootouts, in hockey and in soccer, are the worst way to win and the worst way to lose whether it's one of 82 games or a World Cup Final. It's weird to watch guys play a game and then completely change the game to decide who the winner of that game is.
For hockey, just let them keep playing. For soccer, same thing, allow unlimited substitutions and keep going. Or better yet, replay the game like the use to do during the old World Cup days. Give FIFA another excuse to make millions. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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man if they cut from a game to show a horse race then something isn't right.
granted it was the kentucky derby but still. hodge got his arse canned because of the same thing well mostly for flipping his pen on air in discuss with the network. - zazzle
It was a 3rd round playoff game and it wasn't even the race, it was prerace talking. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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no ties, you either win or lose - Flyfreaky
I think forcing players to play an extra period of hockey is a tough enough stretch. I doubt players want to play triple OT for a regular season game. That's the one thing that really seperates hockey from basketball or baseball because the physical beating is so much higher. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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This is so stupid too. Basketball plays until a winner. No worries about extra time there. Baseball plays extra inning until a winner also. Still no worries there either.
Why is it only an issue with nhl? (frank) sakes they're cutting away from playoff games in 3rd round so as not to miss 3hours of pre-(horse)race chit-chat - burn
Injuries. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Shootouts, in hockey and in soccer, are the worst way to win and the worst way to lose whether it's one of 82 games or a World Cup Final. It's weird to watch guys play a game and then completely change the game to decide who the winner of that game is.
For hockey, just let them keep playing. For soccer, same thing, allow unlimited substitutions and keep going. Or better yet, replay the game like the use to do during the old World Cup days. Give FIFA another excuse to make millions. - JohnFergusonJr
thing is, in soccer, you're guaranteed a few days between matches in league play, sometimes a week. in hockey, if you're not playing the next night, you're playing in 48 hours. and given the amount of games going to OT, plus the tight travel... it's asking for trouble. personally i never had an issue with ties. 65 minutes of hockey can't separate you guys? you both deserve a point. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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owners don't want this
players won't want it
99% of fans won't want this - DoubleDown
Owners in the NFL, NBA and MLB don't seem to mind it. I could see the players having a problem with playing more hockey but I think it's negotiable. Why wouldn't wants want more hockey? |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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I think forcing players to play an extra period of hockey is a tough enough stretch. I doubt players want to play triple OT for a regular season game. That's the one thing that really seperates hockey from basketball or baseball because the physical beating is so much higher. - JohnFergusonJr
0 point ties.
Teams that tie it coming from behind have the satisfaction of knowing they took 2 points from the other team, even if they didn't get anything themselves. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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I think forcing players to play an extra period of hockey is a tough enough stretch. I doubt players want to play triple OT for a regular season game. That's the one thing that really seperates hockey from basketball or baseball because the physical beating is so much higher. - JohnFergusonJr
i'd do o.t. until someone wins, but if they must decide it with the shootout, so be it
as long as there is no loser point, i'm fine with it |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Injuries. - Atomic Wedgie
also basketball averages almost 200 points per 60 minutes. hockey? not so much. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Owners in the NFL, NBA and MLB don't seem to mind it. I could see the players having a problem with playing more hockey but I think it's negotiable. Why wouldn't wants want more hockey? - JohnFergusonJr
again i just think they're different sports. baseball is not as physically taxing and you can remove players from the game. football has ties. basketball has way more frequent scoring and so it's rare for games to remain tied after the first OT. |
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It was a 3rd round playoff game and it wasn't even the race, it was prerace talking. - burn
and that's even worse. |
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Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.02.2008
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Tweeted by @AtomicWedgie
Mark Owuya has just been added to Rob Ford's re-election team. - Atomic Wedgie
Nice... We're always looking for more good men on the campaign |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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0 point ties.
Teams that tie it coming from behind have the satisfaction of knowing they took 2 points from the other team, even if they didn't get anything themselves. - Feeling Glucky?
i don't like that. a tie should be worth more than a loss. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Owners in the NFL, NBA and MLB don't seem to mind it. I could see the players having a problem with playing more hockey but I think it's negotiable. Why wouldn't wants want more hockey? - JohnFergusonJr
You seem to be missing the following points:
a) casual fans like the shootout; and
b) owners love the loser point, because it keeps teams in the playoff hunt later.
$ trumps your angry rants. Everytime. |
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