Thats a lot of money. He's played great for them, but thats a big commitment.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not a Dubinsky fan but his play in the playoffs really impressed me. If he can keep that up, he would be worth the money. But I see it as an overpay in the long run. Then again I feel like 90% of contracts nowadays are overpays when I first see them.

I'm really not sure. I imagine he's a polarizing player. Probably a wide range of offers. I think the best offer may be 2 2nds.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's what was offered for Coburn. Seems high.

Edit: rumoured

He'll likely be named captain this season.
- jmatchett383

I agree. He'll be an effective player for the duration of that deal because he's such a good defensive player. We'll see if his will continue to stay in 50-60 point range

I'm not a Dubinsky fan but his play in the playoffs really impressed me. If he can keep that up, he would be worth the money. But I see it as an overpay in the long run. Then again I feel like 90% of contracts nowadays are overpays when I first see them.
- five4fighting10

Like Dave Bolland, a very under rated hockey player.

That's what was offered for Coburn. Seems high.
- coffee junkie

Coburn was coming off a terrible year. I think Coburn would fetch a first rounder now.

I agree. He'll be an effective player for the duration of that deal because he's such a good defensive player. We'll see if his will continue to stay in 50-60 point range
- PhillySportsGuy

He's basically (Philly-era) Mike Richards with a tad less natural skill and a tad less explosive hitting.

I'm not a Dubinsky fan but his play in the playoffs really impressed me. If he can keep that up, he would be worth the money. But I see it as an overpay in the long run. Then again I feel like 90% of contracts nowadays are overpays when I first see them.
- five4fighting10

I hated him so much when he was on the Rangers. Just a 'hate the face' type player

If he was traded today, what do you think his value would be in terms of a draft puck? Open ended question for everyone. Note I am not proposing reading him for picks, just curious on his value.
- coffee junkie

Inconsistency, development path and salary considered, not much.

I'd cap it at a top-90 pick.

He's basically (Philly-era) Mike Richards with a tad less natural skill and a tad less explosive hitting.
- jmatchett383

Similar defensively. He won't ever touch 80 points though.

Inconsistency, development path and salary considered, not much.

I'd cap it at a top-90 pick.
- Tomahawk

Keep in mind that Brian Burke still runs a team. There is no price too steep for truculence

Edit: McGinn got a top 90 pick. I imagine Schenn could do better than that.

I hated him so much when he was on the Rangers. Just a 'hate the face' type player
- PhillySportsGuy

Bingo! He always had the face of a Ranger (or Yankee). If you're a baseball fan, it's why I wasn't surprised Mark Teixeira signed with the Yankees a couple of years ago. Same thing, he always had the face of a Yankee.

Similar defensively. He won't ever touch 80 points though.
- PhillySportsGuy

Like I said, less natural skill. Richards was a potential 75-85 point guy. Dubinky is a 50-60 point guy.

Keep in mind that Brian Burke still runs a team. There is no price too steep for truculence

Edit: McGinn got a top 90 pick. I imagine Schenn could do better than that.
- PhillySportsGuy

Also, Garth Snow still has a job.

Bingo! He always had the face of a Ranger (or Yankee). If you're a baseball fan, it's why I wasn't surprised Mark Teixeira signed with the Yankees a couple of years ago. Same thing, he always had the face of a Yankee.
- five4fighting10

Felt the same way! I have always hated that guy. His (frank)ing false hustle and stupid face. Felt so good beating him when he was on the Braves. Braves gave up so much to get him and got, virtually, nothing back when they traded him to the Angels.

Like I said, less natural skill. Richards was a potential 75-85 point guy. Dubinky is a 50-60 point guy.
- jmatchett383

Would you be satisfied if Couturier became Dubinsky?

Like Dave Bolland, a very under rated hockey player.
- mochoson

Bolland's underrated?

(Career-high 0.5 ppg player, mid-40% FO guy, injury-prone... making $27.5M over 5-years?)

Also, Garth Snow still has a job.
- jmatchett383

He'd be more likely to take VL

Keep in mind that Brian Burke still runs a team. There is no price too steep for truculence

Edit: McGinn got a top 90 pick. I imagine Schenn could do better than that.
- PhillySportsGuy

Ehhhh, technically no he doesn't, but his replacement signed Deryk Engelland to a 3 year contract with like a 300% raise in salary.

So yeah, truculence n poop

Morrow to Lightning

Would you be satisfied if Couturier became Dubinsky?
- PhillySportsGuy

No, I see Couturier's upside much higher. Along the lines of Bergeron. Not saying he's going to hit it, but I think he's already better then Dubinsky defensively and not far behind offensively.

Bolland's underrated?

(Career-high 0.5 ppg player, mid-40% FO guy, injury-prone... making $27.5M over 5-years?)
- Tomahawk

Very under-rated. I'm aware of the money he got; he was slightly overpaid in term and dollars. Doesn't change the fact most people don't realize how good he is. He's had some freak injuries that have derailed his career to an extent.

That would be the all mighty and powerful Ryan Suter looking for his jock strap btw.

No, I see Couturier's upside much higher. Along the lines of Bergeron. Not saying he's going to hit it, but I think he's already better then Dubinsky defensively and not far behind offensively.
- Baxter27

His upside is higher, but most players never reach their upside. Couturier's upside is a 60+ point Selke winner. I think a Dubinsky type would be satisfactory. He's a legit #2 center who is a terrific defensive forward.

Morrow to Lightning
- PhillySportsGuy

(frank)ing christ

Very under-rated. I'm aware of the money he got; he was slightly overpaid in term and dollars. Doesn't change the fact most people don't realize how good he is. He's had some freak injuries that have derailed his career to an extent.

That would be the all mighty and powerful Ryan Suter looking for his jock strap btw.
- mochoson

Jock strap removing material

Very under-rated. I'm aware of the money he got; he was slightly overpaid in term and dollars. Doesn't change the fact most people don't realize how good he is. He's had some freak injuries that have derailed his career to an extent.

That would be the all mighty and powerful Ryan Suter looking for his jock strap btw.
- mochoson

I agree his skill-level is underrated, but he's not suddenly going to turn into a 50-60 point player, right? He primarily came up as a scorer, but hasn't been able to score... the part that's overrated are his shutdown ability and intangibles/leadership... I'm not paying a premium for either of those.