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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
Again, are we making fun of an actual issue I have to deal with in my actual life?
- Giroux_Is_God


That's (frank)ed up. It really is.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
What exactly is this pissing match about anyways?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:06 AM ET
What exactly is this pissing match about anyways?
- Streit2ThePoint


Whether or not Hartnell is a "physical player" nowadays.

And, apparently, making fun of people's medical conditions.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
Whether or not Hartnell is a "physical player" nowadays.

And, apparently, making fun of people's medical conditions.

- jmatchett383


Oh ok. Well he's still a physical player, maybe not as much in his earlier days, but he's still a physical presence on the ice.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
How in the (frank) was that analogy irrelevant.
- Giroux_Is_God



Because it had zero to do with the debate, on Hartnell's physical play

Here is what happened here. Two different opinions were offered on Hartnell. Which is fine, because that's what were here for. To offer an opinion. Once the debate ensued, one side superschennbros offered evidence of both video and stats to support his opinion. You offered zero to support your opinion. And instead decided to compartmentalize his argument, down to one video, and attack that as not being enough of a sample size to make his point, and called it silly. And made an irrelevant analogy. Rather then actually countering his argument with evidence to support your view on the subject. It's pretty clear who made the better argument. Right or wrong in the conclusion. Which I happen to think he's right.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:12 AM ET
So, have we traded for Shea Weber yet?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:13 AM ET
The video was a (frank)ing satire
- Giroux_Is_God



No, the video was a poor counter argument and weak attempt to try and show a poster, who made a better argument than you did, that his argument was silly.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
So, have we traded for Shea Weber yet?
- jmatchett383


Waiting on Cherry Hill's Bobby Ryan
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:23 AM ET
Waiting on Cherry Hill's Bobby Ryan
- ob18



What do you think hometown discount. 5 years for 2.5M a year?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:26 AM ET
What do you think hometown discount. 5 years for 2.5M a year?
- MJL


That high? Heck, he should paying the Flyers to play for them.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:28 AM ET
What do you think hometown discount. 5 years for 2.5M a year?
- MJL


7 years or bust
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:29 AM ET
So, have we traded for Shea Weber yet?
- jmatchett383


No but its rumored they are trading Rosehill for a new Weber grill.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:30 AM ET
No but its rumored they are trading Rosehill for a new Weber grill.
- BiggE


Does the grill have a NMC?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 11 @ 9:32 AM ET
No but its rumored they are trading Rosehill for a new Weber grill.
- BiggE


How many burners on that grill?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 11 @ 9:32 AM ET
What do you think hometown discount. 5 years for 2.5M a year?
- MJL


And free bowling at the Playdrome!
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 11 @ 9:32 AM ET
Folks, back off Giroux is God. First Giroux is god (though I didnt know god was a butt grabber). Second is climate point made sense as a way to describe a type of argument. Third, agree to disagree and move on. Harntell certainly has ( ). Although I am sad about as fan and in light of the character he brought to the team, Bill's Blog of yesterday helps me get over the sadness a bit.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jul 11 @ 9:33 AM ET
No, the video was a poor counter argument and weak attempt to try and show a poster, who made a better argument than you did, that his argument was silly.
- MJL


In other words... a satire.

ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jul 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
Folks, back off Giroux is God. First Giroux is god (though I didnt know god was a butt grabber). Second is climate point made sense as a way to describe a type of argument. Third, agree to disagree and move on. Harntell certainly has ( ). Although I am sad about as fan and in light of the character he brought to the team, Bill's Blog of yesterday helps me get over the sadness a bit.
- FlyersFirst


If Giroux isn't god, then why are some clouds shaped like butts?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:37 AM ET
So, have we traded for Shea Weber yet?
- jmatchett383


Yes. Still waiting for lebron to announce his decision before it's official though.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:39 AM ET
Because it had zero to do with the debate, on Hartnell's physical play

Here is what happened here. Two different opinions were offered on Hartnell. Which is fine, because that's what were here for. To offer an opinion. Once the debate ensued, one side superschennbros offered evidence of both video and stats to support his opinion. You offered zero to support your opinion. And instead decided to compartmentalize his argument, down to one video, and attack that as not being enough of a sample size to make his point, and called it silly. And made an irrelevant analogy. Rather then actually countering his argument with evidence to support your view on the subject. It's pretty clear who made the better argument. Right or wrong in the conclusion. Which I happen to think he's right.

- MJL


Good thing SSB didn't use advanced stats or his argument would have been invalid
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:40 AM ET
Yes. Still waiting for lebron to announce his decision before it's official though.
- PhillySportsGuy


Aren't we tanking for McDavid or Eichel?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
Aren't we tanking for McDavid or Eichel?
- ob18


Might as well tank for both. Tank to ensure we get 1st or 2nd overall, trade that immature brat Giroux and his buddy Voracek for the other pick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
Good thing SSB didn't use advanced stats or his argument would have been invalid
- PhillySportsGuy



Depends on how he used them. As always, advanced stats require context.

And one thing I'm still waiting on, is for any Corsi pundit to refute the issue of false data. But that's normally just ignored and glossed over. Just like the injury that Lecavalier had is sometimes ignored by those critical of Lecavalier as a player.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
Might as well tank for both. Tank to ensure we get 1st or 2nd overall, trade that immature brat Giroux and his buddy Voracek for the other pick.
- jmatchett383


Correct.

Why stop at banishing just the one ginger Hartnell?

THEY ALL MUST GO!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Does the grill have a NMC?
- jmatchett383


Well Holmgren was pushing for one, but Hextall overruled him
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