Is it all about the money, however? From a pure performance perspective, Ribeiro is worth way, way more than $1 million on a one year deal. The question is whether they want to insert him into that lockerroom, or whether they want to see what they have with Miller. Maybe they just want to give Miller his shot.
- Pete V

I understand that he has a history of a bad attitude. But he's also capable of scoring 20 goals or putting up 50 points. For 1 million I think for the Rangers that be'd worth the risk. But I just think that Rangers can't and couldn't sign him because Sather is willing to let an arbitrator decide the future $$$ of Brassard, Zuccs and Kreider.

Not signing heatley was a good move. Heatley has no legs left. Ribeiro for 1 million as your 3rd line center would have been amazing. But this is because of Sather. He now has to wait because he failed to sign Kreider and Zuccs when he had the chance. Not a good off season for him.
- tomburton99

Before we rip Sather as well, maybe Riberio didn't want to play in New York and deal with more pressure after a down year

Before we rip Sather as well, maybe Riberio didn't want to play in New York and deal with more pressure after a down year
- TPC

Good point. I could live with it if he said no to the Rangers.

A good offseason for Sather is when he throws shit at the wall and it sticks, most of the time it doesn't, I really have no faith in him as the GM of a winner
- KreiderBomb

In the last three years, they nearly won the President's Trophy and went to the Conference Finals, lost in the second round to Boston, and lost in the SCF to the Kings. That is arguably the most successful three year stretch in my time watching the club (not counting the mid-1990s). That's is pretty darn successful, isn't it? An they could have been even more successful if they didn't blow two goal leads in Games 1 and 2 of the Final.

I understand that he has a history of a bad attitude. But he's also capable of scoring 20 goals or putting up 50 points. For 1 million I think for the Rangers that be'd worth the risk. But I just think that Rangers can't and couldn't sign him because Sather is willing to let an arbitrator decide the future $$$ of Brassard, Zuccs and Kreider.
- tomburton99

It's not about letting an arbitrator decide. It's about deals often times not getting done until both sides have some imminent event that drives the deal. Should Sather just roll over for those guys now and give them whatever they want, or should he try to get a better deal that is going to give the Rangers more cap flexibility?

What I am saying is this? As arbitration gets closer, the player is likely to decide that they don't want to risk that process and become more serious about a long term deal, and Sather will do the same. It's about expectations becoming more reasonable when there is some event that forces you to become more reasonable.

Before we rip Sather as well, maybe Riberio didn't want to play in New York and deal with more pressure after a down year
- TPC

I could care less about signing Ribeiro, I'm more disgusted that 2 players much better than Glass were signed 2 weeks after free agency started and for .5 a mil less, our 4th could be much better and much cheaper at the same time while enabling Sather to get the RFA's done already, with how he operates we're gonna lose another valuable piece in the end

In the last three years, they nearly won the President's Trophy and went to the Conference Finals, lost in the second round to Boston, and lost in the SCF to the Kings. That is arguably the most successful three year stretch in my time watching the club (not counting the mid-1990s). That's is pretty darn successful, isn't it? An they could have been even more successful if they didn't blow two goal leads in Games 1 and 2 of the Final.
- Pete V

It's the turnover and reconstruction of the bottom 6, he hit a homer with Moore and Pouliot last summer, to me he got lucky because if he actually was savvy he would have made a similar move this summer instead of he's standing around with his Richard in his hands

It's not about letting an arbitrator decide. It's about deals often times not getting done until both sides have some imminent event that drives the deal. Should Sather just roll over for those guys now and give them whatever they want, or should he try to get a better deal that is going to give the Rangers more cap flexibility?

What I am saying is this? As arbitration gets closer, the player is likely to decide that they don't want to risk that process and become more serious about a long term deal, and Sather will do the same. It's about expectations becoming more reasonable when there is some event that forces you to become more reasonable.
- Pete V

I'll agree if this is pertaining to Kreider. But no way Zuccs and Brassard will give up the only leverage they have. Both of them out preformed their cap hits last year. I could see an arbitrator award Brass north of 4.5 million and Zuccs north of 5. But this goes back to Sather. He so badly wants every RFA to sign a deal he offer's I don't get it. The only RFA he's negotiated with in good faith is Mcdonagh.

It's the turnover and reconstruction of the bottom 6, he hit a homer with Moore and Pouliot last summer, to me he got lucky because if he actually was savvy he would have made a similar move this summer instead of he's standing around with his Richard in his hands
- KreiderBomb

I can't wait until Tanner Glass blows everyone's expectations of him out of the water. I'm rooting for the underdog!

Before we rip Sather as well, maybe Riberio didn't want to play in New York and deal with more pressure after a down year
- TPC

Probably easier access to blow also

I'll agree if this is pertaining to Kreider. But no way Zuccs and Brassard will give up the only leverage they have. Both of them out preformed their cap hits last year. I could see an arbitrator award Brass north of 4.5 million and Zuccs north of 5. But this goes back to Sather. He so badly wants every RFA to sign a deal he offer's I don't get it. The only RFA he's negotiated with in good faith is Mcdonagh.
- tomburton99

They wouldn't be giving up the leverage. They use the threat of arbitration as leverage in order to secure a long term deal. That's their leverage. And Sather's leverage is the fact that Brassard, despite being drafted 6th overall has never cleared 50 points in the league, and Zuccarello has only had one great year in the league. Both sides have leverage that they will attempt to exert before arbitration, and I would bet that fair deals get done before they go through that process.

I can't wait until Tanner Glass blows everyone's expectations of him out of the water. I'm rooting for the underdog!
- MeltingPlastic

the hate is so heavy for this guy I am declaring him my new favorite player

I can't wait until Tanner Glass blows everyone's expectations of him out of the water. I'm rooting for the underdog!
- MeltingPlastic

I hate the contract more than the player

the hate is so heavy for this guy I am declaring him my new favorite player
- jimbro83

From this point to the beginning of the season, every signing that occurs, by any team, is likely to lead to the "we could have had that guy at cheaper than Tanner Glass." Is the point well taken? Maybe. But at the end of the day, it's only a $1.5 million fourth line signings. It's not the root of all the world's problems.

I can't wait until Tanner Glass blows everyone's expectations of him out of the water. I'm rooting for the underdog!
- MeltingPlastic

He's the worst player to lace up skates since Ogie Ogelthorpe

Never has a player been prejudged in history to suck more then Tanner Glass

Who knew a player who plays 8 minutes a night could ruin every fans summer and all the hope a team has for the following season

He's the worst player to lace up skates since Ogie Ogelthorpe

Never has a player been prejudged in history to suck more then Tanner Glass

Who knew a player who plays 8 minutes a night could ruin every fans summer and all the hope a team has for the following season
- Slimtj100

One of these days, the Rangers are going to grow one of those fourth line tough guy types in the system that is able to do the job at half the price.

One of these days, the Rangers are going to grow one of those fourth line tough guy types in the system that is able to do the job at half the price.
- Pete V

I think the last time we had that situation it was Hollweg-Moore-Ortmeyer

One of these days, the Rangers are going to grow one of those fourth line tough guy types in the system that is able to do the job at half the price.
- Pete V

Why do that? When you can sign guys like Asham, Glass, Brashear, Simon etc.

Why do that? When you can sign guys like Asham, Glass, Brashear, Simon etc.
- tomburton99

I get the criticism, Tom, but sometimes I wonder what level of success that a GM has to achieve to earn a little bit of slack. The Rangers have been pretty darn successful for the past three years. Does Sather get any amount of credit for that? Or, is the case that everything good that happens is because of Gorton and Clark, and everything bad that happens is because of Sather?

Is it all about the money, however? From a pure performance perspective, Ribeiro is worth way, way more than $1 million on a one year deal. The question is whether they want to insert him into that lockerroom, or whether they want to see what they have with Miller. Maybe they just want to give Miller his shot.
- Pete V

I am fine with that, but as I wrote, need to intersperse the kids in not rely upon them. If Miller fails, what's the back up plan? Right now, there is none because of no depth

One of these days, the Rangers are going to grow one of those fourth line tough guy types in the system that is able to do the job at half the price.
- Pete V

The only argument I can make in killing the glass move is why him instead of Dorsett? And then you see we got a decent prospect in the deal for Dorsett and I'm like ok, I don't mind the trade off at all. Wether Glass will suck or not isn't known yet..but I do know they needed a guy that will hit everyone and stand up for teammates and is a glue guy. By all accounts, Glass does that. So I like him, shocker

The only argument I can make in killing the glass move is why him instead of Dorsett? And then you see we got a decent prospect in the deal for Dorsett and I'm like ok, I don't mind the trade off at all. Wether Glass will suck or not isn't known yet..but I do know they needed a guy that will hit everyone and stand up for teammates and is a glue guy. By all accounts, Glass does that. So I like him, shocker
- Slimtj100

The other argument that you can make against the move is you did a good job of getting decent value for Dorsett, why not just re-sign Carcillo at 800K, rather than spending an extra 700K per on Glass. I don't understand that, but at the end of the day, I am also not going to go too crazy over the signing either.

Do I like it? No. Do I think it the worst thing ever? No.

I get the criticism, Tom, but sometimes I wonder what level of success that a GM has to achieve to earn a little bit of slack. The Rangers have been pretty darn successful for the past three years. Does Sather get any amount of credit for that? Or, is the case that everything good that happens is because of Gorton and Clark, and everything bad that happens is because of Sather?
- Pete V

I was joking about the enforcer comment. And he has done some good. Traded for MSL, got Hank and G signed before they hit UFA, sign Mcdonagh to a friendly long term deal. But my comment about this off season, this one particular off season has not been good.

He had to let Pouliot and Boyle walk. Can't afford to pay those a combined 6 million. I'm fine with that. Everybody knows how I feel about Stralman for Boyle swap. Richards buyout was necessary. But not getting one of Zuccs, Brassard or Kreider to sign is bad. Hand cuffed the team into not being able to sign some depth guys to helo fill the void.

Tj, wanted Legwand, I wanted Ribeiro etc. The Rangers couldn't even afford those deal because of their own RFA question marks.

I am fine with that, but as I wrote, need to intersperse the kids in not rely upon them. If Miller fails, what's the back up plan? Right now, there is none because of no depth
- airjan23

Lindberg.

Lindberg.
- tomburton99

Or, Ribeiro from Nashville at the deadline for Tampa's second round pick.