mames11
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.29.2013
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I think its a mute point because I don't think Staal is going anywhere. - TPC
Trading Staal is out of the question.
With the RFA's I can possibly see
Zucc: 3 years/$9M (3 AAV) or 1-year bridge at same $3M
Brass: 3 years/$15M (5)
Krieder: 2-year bridge/$4M (2)
$10M spent leaving about $4M to sign someone like Guchi. |
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MeltingPlastic
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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Trading Staal is out of the question.
With the RFA's I can possibly see
Zucc: 3 years/$9M (3 AAV) or 1-year bridge at same $3M
Brass: 3 years/$15M (5)
Krieder: 2-year bridge/$4M (2)
$10M spent leaving about $4M to sign someone like Guchi. - mames11
Zucc will get closer to 4 with the way the market is. |
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mames11
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.29.2013
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Zucc will get closer to 4 with the way the market is. - MeltingPlastic
More than doubling one's salary? Maybe, but I doubt it. Zucc would stay for fair $$$. He like it here and has mentioned money isn't his main concern.
We shall see. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Trading Staal is out of the question.
With the RFA's I can possibly see
Zucc: 3 years/$9M (3 AAV) or 1-year bridge at same $3M
Brass: 3 years/$15M (5)
Krieder: 2-year bridge/$4M (2)
$10M spent leaving about $4M to sign someone like Guchi. - mames11
add John Moore who is going to be between 1 mil and 1.5 mil
and, they won't go into season completely capped out, gotta have one million of breathing room at least for injuries/callups
I think they will sign the 4 RFA's to new deals, sign Carcillo to a new cheap deal and head into camp with what they have
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More than doubling one's salary? Maybe, but I doubt it. Zucc would stay for fair $$$. He like it here and has mentioned money isn't his main concern.
We shall see. - mames11
Reports are saying zucc wants 20M over 4 years |
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mames11
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.29.2013
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Reports are saying zucc wants 20M over 4 years - rangerdanger94
I heard that as a starting point to discussions...which is why he is going to arbitration. That's an insane request for a player three seasons (sorta) in the NHL that was making a little over $1M in each year. Perhaps if he was a UFA, then maybe with all these crazy contracts this offseason. |
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I heard that as a starting point to discussions...which is why he is going to arbitration. That's an insane request for a player three seasons (sorta) in the NHL that was making a little over $1M in each year. Perhaps if he was a UFA, then maybe with all these crazy contracts this offseason. - mames11
He was our leading scorer and not only our best but also our most consistent forward all year long.Previous salary has nothing to do with it imo. This isn't like a typical job where your raise is relative to your current pay. Its based on performance and he has earned at least 4M a year. He also took a big discount last summer after he sparked our team into the playoffs under torts because we were tight against the cap.
I dont think he gets 5M but I can see 4M unless sather pulls his rfa magic again which he very well could. |
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climbdenali12
New York Rangers |
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Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24 Joined: 11.18.2008
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He was our leading scorer and not only our best but also our most consistent forward all year long.Previous salary has nothing to do with it imo. This isn't like a typical job where your raise is relative to your current pay. Its based on performance and he has earned at least 4M a year. He also took a big discount last summer after he sparked our team into the playoffs under torts because we were tight against the cap.
I dont think he gets 5M but I can see 4M unless sather pulls his rfa magic again which he very well could. - rangerdanger94
I could see a deal similar to Stepan's. Both came off a year in which they lead the team in points. BotH rfa status and while arbitration can change things a little slats will probably argue that step is more important to the teams overall success. |
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Maskdman3
New York Rangers |
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Location: Gotham City, NY Joined: 02.16.2007
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I would absolutely hate to pay Zucc $5M but considering the deal Dubinsky got it wouldn't be that terrible |
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I could see a deal similar to Stepan's. Both came off a year in which they lead the team in points. BotH rfa status and while arbitration can change things a little slats will probably argue that step is more important to the teams overall success. - climbdenali12
Hopefully you're right but stepan got a bridge deal after his ELC and will remain a RFA after it expires. This past year was zuccarellos "prove it" deal and he did. He is also older than stepan and will be a UFA next summer. A 4 year deal will buy up 3 of his UFA years and those years will be expensive. |
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BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 08.09.2011
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If you have the opportunity to sign (in this case re-sign) a 27 year old all-star, defensive defensemen in his prime capable of shutting down the likes of Crybaby, Malkin and Ovi, to fill out your defense in front of your all world goalie, you do it.
Just saying - tbreinold
Agreed. I think the success of this team
Is built from the goal out and i would not want to
F that up. If a Brassard, Zucc (and even Pouliot to a lesser
Degree) can be found and salvaged to be highly useful i
think we can find the necessary forwards. |
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BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 08.09.2011
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I think its a mute point because I don't think Staal is going anywhere. - TPC
It's 'moot' BTW |
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You know, I've been thinking about it and I'm actually kinda psyched that Miller will likely be our 3rd line center. Outside of needing to develop better defensive awareness and finishing there's not one.thing about this kids game that I dont love. Grit, skill, confidence, size. |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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You know, I've been thinking about it and I'm actually kinda psyched that Miller will likely be our 3rd line center. Outside of needing to develop better defensive awareness and finishing there's not one.thing about this kids game that I dont love. Grit, skill, confidence, size. - rangerdanger94
The Rangers lost 50+ points out of the lineup with Richards getting bought out, so the Rangers will be depending on Miller to account for at least a good portion of that production (realizing that Richards got significant PP time).
The defense is either status quo or better.
The offense will depend on kids replacing production of established veterans. How much of Richards' production will Miller be able to replace? Can Fast (or Lindberg) post 30 or so points, and account for much of what Pouilot brought? Can Kreider take the next step, and put up a big point season? Can Hagelin make incremental advances offensively?
It's going to be a group effort to replace the offensive production lost, and alot of it will depend what we have with some of these young guys, which remains to be seen. If they don't produce, the Rangers will be active in the trade market to replace the depth they lost. |
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evitageN
New York Rangers |
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Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Joined: 01.29.2008
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The Rangers lost 50+ points out of the lineup with Richards getting bought out, so the Rangers will be depending on Miller to account for at least a good portion of that production (realizing that Richards got significant PP time).
The defense is either status quo or better.
The offense will depend on kids replacing production of established veterans. How much of Richards' production will Miller be able to replace? Can Fast (or Lindberg) post 30 or so points, and account for much of what Pouilot brought? Can Kreider take the next step, and put up a big point season? Can Hagelin make incremental advances offensively?
It's going to be a group effort to replace the offensive production lost, and alot of it will depend what we have with some of these young guys, which remains to be seen. If they don't produce, the Rangers will be active in the trade market to replace the depth they lost. - Pete V
Hopefully Dan Boyle provides more offense than Stralman's 1 goal. |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Let's assume that: (1) the Rangers sign Brassard for $4.5 million, Zucc for $4.0 million, Kreider for $2.25 million, and Moore for $1.25 million; (2) Fast and Miller will make the roster at their contracts; and (3) the 13th forward and 7th defender will be two of the low costs guys that the Rangers signed this summer. That would give the Rangers about $1.7 million in cap space, more if you could shave a little off the above deals, and less if the deals come more expensive. But, $1.7 million, give or take a couple of hundred thousand seems like a good number. That gives them some space to do something else upfront if they want to, rather than inserting three rookies into the lineup. That would actually make me more comfortable. |
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Hopefully Dan Boyle provides more offense than Stralman's 1 goal. - evitageN
Boyle will also be responsible for account for some of Richards PP production. |
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BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 08.09.2011
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Hopefully Dan Boyle provides more offense than Stralman's 1 goal. - evitageN
I dont know if thats possible -stralman
Is the 2nd coming according to the Bolt's
Board. That single goal carries much importance. |
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WayneY
New York Rangers |
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Location: WayneZ is inferior to WayneY ( Joined: 08.29.2010
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Boyle will also be responsible for account for some of Richards PP production. - Pete V
A full season of Rick Nash would also increase offensive output *prays* |
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A full season of Rick Nash would also increase offensive output *prays* - WayneY
Stepan was also pretty bad offensively for the first half of last season. If he can be consistent and mcdonagh continues his momentum offensively we could be in solid shape. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Boyle will also be responsible for account for some of Richards PP production. - Pete V
having Dan Boyle, finally a right handed shot capable of QBing the powerplay is going to help Girardi too. Because he was asked to perform that role a lot, handle penalty killing and play the top pairing night after night.
Now Girardi won't be needed to do everything, and his defensive game should get better as a result.
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having Dan Boyle, finally a right handed shot capable of QBing the powerplay is going to help Girardi too. Because he was asked to perform that role a lot, handle penalty killing and play the top pairing night after night.
Now Girardi won't be needed to do everything, and his defensive game should get better as a result. - jimbro83
Well realistically boyle will likely be trash because rangers |
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evitageN
New York Rangers |
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Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Joined: 01.29.2008
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Here's some info on McIlrath
Jeff Gorton said before the draft that the organization is excited about where Dylan McIlrath is going and think that he is getting better and better and could be with the team soon. (Rangers)
Gorton and Gordie Clark talked about McIlrath’s progression recently.
McIlrath played two games with the Rangers this season and averaged 7:01 per game.
Craig Button said on SNY’s Rangers Blue Line podcast recently, “Dylan is a different player than Anton and he is more of a rough and tumble rugged player and he had a lot to learn coming into pro hockey. In junior hockey he was bigger and stronger and could intimidate and back people off with that size and physical presence and the NHL isn’t about that. People look at McIlrath sand say that he doesn’t skate very well so I will attack that. Dylan has had to really work at being a quicker player, a better fundamental player in terms of his positioning and when his positioning is good and people try to come at him and break him down, he is very hard to break down.”
McIilrath played top pairing minutes at 5 on 5 this season and while his game improved throughout the year, he needs to start “showing some dominance” in the defensive zone. He is the type of defenseman every NHL team needs and wants. (Dobber) |
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evitageN
New York Rangers |
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Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Joined: 01.29.2008
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Here's some info on McIlrath
Jeff Gorton said before the draft that the organization is excited about where Dylan McIlrath is going and think that he is getting better and better and could be with the team soon. (Rangers)
Gorton and Gordie Clark talked about McIlrath’s progression recently.
McIlrath played two games with the Rangers this season and averaged 7:01 per game.
Craig Button said on SNY’s Rangers Blue Line podcast recently, “Dylan is a different player than Anton and he is more of a rough and tumble rugged player and he had a lot to learn coming into pro hockey. In junior hockey he was bigger and stronger and could intimidate and back people off with that size and physical presence and the NHL isn’t about that. People look at McIlrath sand say that he doesn’t skate very well so I will attack that. Dylan has had to really work at being a quicker player, a better fundamental player in terms of his positioning and when his positioning is good and people try to come at him and break him down, he is very hard to break down.”
McIilrath played top pairing minutes at 5 on 5 this season and while his game improved throughout the year, he needs to start “showing some dominance” in the defensive zone. He is the type of defenseman every NHL team needs and wants. (Dobber) - evitageN
The fact he's still working on that 4 full years later is not good. |
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