Would the Devils trade Henrique, Larson and the rights to Ilya Kovalchuk for Kane?
- TheUltimateJet

but you have to throw us the rights to Burmistrov

And sit back an be amazed with Dougie this year, FYI.

I'm kinda glad you guys grabbed Larson and we got Dougie. He is going to be a fricken stud and will be IMO a weber type player. Laugh now, but mark it down, he was a steal.
- JIwasinskiJr

I think he's going to be a very good player. Certainly he'll benefit from the Chara effect. Frankly, if you value him that highly you should keep him

thank god none of you are GMs srs

Did you read what they would want? They don't want picks or older players.

Someone else posted it above but, in the end it it's a top 6 foward under contract entering or in his prime (brad Marchand)

OR

A top 4 d man under contract entering or in his prime.

If that is what Winnipeg is asking for then Marchand and boychuck would be an over payment.
- JIwasinskiJr

Smith is 23. Isn't he entering his prime?? Using my own common sense I think that has to be a misinterpretation. I believe they want a top 6 and a top 4.

All I was really saying was that you gave me the impression that I over-valued Smith at first.

Kane is a first line forward, it doesn't make sense for them to trade him for a top 6 or a top 4.

Smith is 23. Isn't he entering his prime?? Using my own common sense I think that has to be a misinterpretation. I believe they want a top 6 and a top 4.

All I was really saying was that you gave me the impression that I over-valued Smith at first.

Kane is a first line forward, it doesn't make sense for them to trade him for a top 6 or a top 4.
- njdevils350

The problem with smith is it was only one year and he was somewhat streaky and very invisible point wise, not two way play but points.

So is there potential, yes, a lot, but too often too much stock is put into a flash on the pan. Needs more time to tell.

For instance, who was the leading goal scorer halfway through last year........steen from St. Louis. And he finished with 33 goals out of the top ten.

Smith had a great first half of the yr, showed a little something in the playoffs, but he is still unproven.

Marchand is going to score 25 to 30 goals AND is a very very good two way foward in Bergy's shadow.

If there was not problems with each of the players in that deal then neither would be in trade talks, but as it is now, Kane has his problems and Marchand, IMO is a liability in the playoffs.

A change of scenery may be good for both players. That's all I'm saying.

And it was a tweet the GM sent out and it was one of the two, but obviously there would need to be wiggle on both sides.

rinse, wash, repeat
rinse, wash, repeat

and ask him in every interview about it, and when he finally walks, question his character and why no one wants to play in winnipeg.
- Rockhead_37

Winnipeg media gets goofy, but not like TO media
Kane's character should be called into question. He's a jackazz
I think this FA period showed not too many guys wanted to play in TO either

My deal would be B Schenn for Kane straight up. Neither player has exactly thrilled their teams its a fair swap of POTENTIAL players.
- MANXMAN

Are you a little bit...

Posted this is Mr. Tessier's thread:

To MTL: E.Kane, 2nd round pick

To WPG: T.Plekanec, J.Tinordi, D.Tokarski, 4th round pick


Eh eh? It's a Win Win!

BTW I'm not sure if Little is a bonafide 1C, I've always seen him as a pure 2C, his right-handed shot is valuable.

Montreal moves Galchenyuk to centre to play with Kane and Gallagher on the Second Line, or Kane can play on his off-wing with Patche and Desharnais. They move Beaulieu into the fold and concentrate on developping Fucale while Budaj remains the backup, for now.

WPG gets a proven defensive centre to either play 3C or 2C behind Scheifele. They upgrade their top-4 Defense and they have a promising Goalie prospect who could be NHL ready to push Pavelec, perhaps become 1A, 1B and to become Playoff Contenders.


**Depending how Kane adjusts in MTL attitude wise, it could be both a good and bad deal.

ROR for Kane.

Damian Bruner lol and Michael Ryder are you kidding me?

Damian Bruner lol and Michael Ryder are you kidding me?
- duckyjets

Would the Devils trade Henrique, Larson and the rights to Ilya Kovalchuk for Kane?
- TheUltimateJet

I really hope you're joking

I really hope you're joking
- notlouis

Torts for Kane. Our problems for yours

I don't see the Devils getting Kane. I can't in a million years see NJ trading any of their future core d-men for a powder keg like Kane. I know he will be worth something to someone. But personally? I'll pass. Not to mention the guy can't get through a full season without getting hurt and for all his talent has only scored 30 goals once and his game without the puck leaves something to be desired.

Larsson is highly talented. He just needs to be allowed to play his game. Hopefully PDB allows that to happen this year or they find another coach who can. A talented D-man can't show his full set of skills if all he is allowed to do is make a good first pass (which he does quite well) and nothing else. No talented d-man, including Keith or Doughty, would thrive like that.

On another note, very pleased with the Schneider signing at a good rate.

The problem with smith is it was only one year and he was somewhat streaky and very invisible point wise, not two way play but points.

So is there potential, yes, a lot, but too often too much stock is put into a flash on the pan. Needs more time to tell.

For instance, who was the leading goal scorer halfway through last year........steen from St. Louis. And he finished with 33 goals out of the top ten.

Smith had a great first half of the yr, showed a little something in the playoffs, but he is still unproven.

Marchand is going to score 25 to 30 goals AND is a very very good two way foward in Bergy's shadow.

If there was not problems with each of the players in that deal then neither would be in trade talks, but as it is now, Kane has his problems and Marchand, IMO is a liability in the playoffs.

A change of scenery may be good for both players. That's all I'm saying.

And it was a tweet the GM sent out and it was one of the two, but obviously there would need to be wiggle on both sides.
- JIwasinskiJr

fair enough

Damian Bruner lol and Michael Ryder are you kidding me?
- duckyjets

That's not what Todd said.

Posted this is Mr. Tessier's thread:

To MTL: E.Kane, 2nd round pick

To WPG: T.Plekanec, J.Tinordi, D.Tokarski, 4th round pick


Eh eh? It's a Win Win!

BTW I'm not sure if Little is a bonafide 1C, I've always seen him as a pure 2C, his right-handed shot is valuable.

Montreal moves Galchenyuk to centre to play with Kane and Gallagher on the Second Line, or Kane can play on his off-wing with Patche and Desharnais. They move Beaulieu into the fold and concentrate on developping Fucale while Budaj remains the backup, for now.

WPG gets a proven defensive centre to either play 3C or 2C behind Scheifele. They upgrade their top-4 Defense and they have a promising Goalie prospect who could be NHL ready to push Pavelec, perhaps become 1A, 1B and to become Playoff Contenders.


**Depending how Kane adjusts in MTL attitude wise, it could be both a good and bad deal.
- frenchgui

You'd give up Plekanec? I'm surprised. He's the best two-way forward on the team and players like him are hard to come by. Yes it might open a spot for Galchenyuk but I personally wouldn't do it if I were you.

You'd give up Plekanec? I'm surprised. He's the best two-way forward on the team and players like him are hard to come by. Yes it might open a spot for Galchenyuk but I personally wouldn't do it if I were you.
- BarryB1124

We would be taking a gamble on the fact that Eller can be an effective Shutdown Centreman, but to have Kane in the Top 6 with his Size and Speed could the missing ingredient to push the Habs over the edge.

Also Kane is very young as well as Eller so Pleks could be the odd-man out here.

On the flip-side, Winnipeg become playoff contenders.

A better trade with Philly I think would look like this...

B Schenn
Coburn
Simmonds OR Voracek
2015 1st

for

E Kane
Byfuglien

Both teams need a shakeup, and its well known that the Flyers covet both Kane and Buff... Wpg wants to move Buff to fwd but Buff wants to play D, and Phi would put him back on the blueline where he prefers to play... The salary implications in this deal are almost dollar for dollar, so I think this would be good for both teams. The only sticking point could be Coburn's limited NMC.
- dunnder

Put the pipe down buddy. Simmonds and Voracek are going nowhere. We're not gutting our team for Kane and fatty. In a follow up post, it is said that Kane and Buff are the two best players in the deal? Maddening. Simmonds and Voracek are both better than Kane, I wouldn't do either straight up for him.

B. Schenn and a 2015 1st round pick for Evander. That's it.

Ottawa- Lazar, Smith, 2015 1st
for
Winnipeg- Kane
- forbetterorWORSE

That's not a bad offer, the pick could be a lottery pick in a really good draft year.

Smith is a very useful checking centre, Lazar is still a promising prospect.

ROR for Kane.
- goavsgo10

Now there's an offer the Jets should consider. I like this line of thinking, young star for young star.

Put the pipe down buddy. Simmonds and Voracek are going nowhere. We're not gutting our team for Kane and fatty. In a follow up post, it is said that Kane and Buff are the two best players in the deal? Maddening. Simmonds and Voracek are both better than Kane, I wouldn't do either straight up for him.

B. Schenn and a 2015 1st round pick for Evander. That's it.
- Rocktane

Brunner, Ryder and a pick for Simmonds. We will even throw in Salvador to 'sweeten' the pot.

I really hope you're joking
- notlouis

No not joking at all. It seems everybody on these boards has Evander Kane pegged as the next coming of Wayne Gretzky and Bobby Orr in one. With that being the case its only fair that Jets get adequate compensation for him.

I think we forget a few key stats about Kane. He's played 5 NHL seasons, and he'll be 23 in August. A lot of the immaturity that gets blown up by the media is simply due to age. Maybe some of you are still in the 16-20 range, but as you get older you see that 18 is young, and young stars will act their age from time to time. So he'll be 23.. he has 10 long years of being in his prime. He's probably just hitting his peak this year or next. 6'2, 195 lbs, and can throw the punches when needed. He has drive, speed, hands, and is growing into a leader.

He's worth ANY of our D, plus a pick/prospect etc.
4th overall pick Larsson +one of the chosen 4, + 1st rounder, for 4th overall pick Kane? He's on contract for this upcoming season, and the next 3. He'd be the perfect answer to the true top line LW, especially as Elias disappears and Cam turns into a 2nd line LW.
Maybe sign Jamie McBain for 2 years/2.5mill? Unless you feel one of the kids are ready for full time. I always thought he was a decent mid-pairing guy. Might look good next to Greene. Only 1.8 last year. 26 years old, a little small at 6'1, 181lbs. Can score some goals. We need a Fayne, a more mobile shutdown guy. I don't think McBain is that, but he's an option. A few decent RFAs out there..

Cammalleri-Zajac-Jagr
Kane-Elias-Havlat
Clowe-Henrique-Brunner
Ruutu-Gionta-Zubrus

Greene-McBain
Merrill-Zidlicky
Salvador-Gelinas

Kane will really open up space for the less physically imposing, and fleet of foot Elias and Havlat. Elias will automatically help Havlat, but with Kane on the LW, he'll have a much easier time against the D. I think eventually, perhaps the following season, Kane-Henrique would be a very nice pair.