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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:00 PM ET
Only if Heatley's driving.
- jmatchett383

That's really funny.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:08 PM ET
Heatley is a name. Had zero interest and not sure why we'd need him.
- johndewar

Why would the Ducks need him? They were only the best team in the West.

We're weak on the left side and he's a Left Winger. Obviously not the same player he once was but one million for one year, I'm gonna listen and hear him out.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:10 PM ET
That movie is as funny to me now as it was the first time I saw it when I was 16.

I also think that movie is the birth of modern sarcasm.

- johndewar

I think jmatchet invented sarcasm
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:16 PM ET
I think jmatchet invented sarcasm
- aightwebang17

...Jmatch...is this sarcasm?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:28 PM ET
So G and Mason's deal don't look so bad after today, eh?
- PhillySportsGuy



Just more poor contracts negotiated by Holmgren. What was the word? Oh yea Holmgren'd.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
A slight clarification: Jack Johnson was actually drafted by Carolina. He was acquired by LA for Tim Gleason, maybe with a pick, because he pissed Jim Rutherford off by not coming out of college when Rutherford thougt he should
- AllInForFlyers


Thanks for the correction. Not sure why I didn't recall that, but I didn't. Man I'm getting old.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:32 PM ET
I think jmatchet invented sarcasm
- aightwebang17

/meta
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:36 PM ET
Its funny, most of our forwards are signed to discount or at value deals (until we got umbergeler) and our defense is the exact opposite. Imagine if we had just one or two home grown dmen.. But such is the NHL...
- FlyersSteve118


I guess you could argue right now, that MacDonald and Streit are over payed. I personally don't think they are. And if they are, it's only a slight overpayment. As far as the rest, about normal for the pedigree of players that they are.

And really, as was the case with Wayne Simmonds, who after having one good season, was given a 6 year deal for close to 4M. Which in the first year may have been an overpayment, is now a really good deal. Especially if he continues to produce like he did last year. But the difference is that Wayne Simmonds is liked as a player. So a 6 year deal for him is okay. But that's another example of an excellent contract negotiated by Holmgren.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:38 PM ET
I guess you could argue right now, that MacDonald and Streit are over payed. I personally don't think they are. And if they are, it's only a slight overpayment. As far as the rest, about normal for the pedigree of players that they are.

And really, as was the case with Wayne Simmonds, who after having one good season, was given a 6 year deal for close to 4M. Which in the first year may have been an overpayment, is now a really good deal. Especially if he continues to produce like he did last year. But the difference that Wayne Simmonds is liked as a player. So a 6 year deal for him is okay. But that's another example of an excellent contract negotiated by Holmgren.

- MJL

i think the simmer deal is one of the best in the league.

but to be fair, if im going to take a risk on a deal. id rather give it to a younger guy in the hope that they are on the upswing, rather than to an againg veteran in the hopes that they maintain.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:42 PM ET
i think the simmer deal is one of the best in the league.

but to be fair, if im going to take a risk on a deal. id rather give it to a younger guy in the hope that they are on the upswing, rather than to an againg veteran in the hopes that they maintain.

- stayinthefnnet



Well sure, but in the case of MacDonald, he's 27 which is really a prime age for a defenseman. But he's not well liked as a player, so a 6 year deal for him is a bad deal.

The Giroux deal is going to turn out to be a flat out steal also!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:46 PM ET
I think jmatchet invented sarcasm
- aightwebang17


JMatch makes this board awesome, IMO.

/no sarcasm
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 9 @ 11:20 PM ET
Why would the Ducks need him? They were only the best team in the West.

We're weak on the left side and he's a Left Winger. Obviously not the same player he once was but one million for one year, I'm gonna listen and hear him out.

- SuperSchennBros


Getz and Perry play a slower cycling game, conducive to LW's like Ryan, Maroon and Heatley. Our top-line plays a rush game... Heatley and Vinny aren't able to keep up.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 10 @ 12:24 AM ET
Well sure, but in the case of MacDonald, he's 27 which is really a prime age for a defenseman. But he's not well liked as a player, so a 6 year deal for him is a bad deal.

The Giroux deal is going to turn out to be a flat out steal also!

- MJL


Considering what Toews and Kane got, it is definitely going to be a steal for a future Hart Trophy Winner. That is right I predict Giroux wins Hart Trophy next season assuming he doesn't frank up his wrist again
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:27 AM ET
...Jmatch...is this sarcasm?
- Giroux_Is_God

It's a minor branch of J Date
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 12:59 AM ET
It's a minor branch of J Date
- Marc D

farmersonly?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:30 AM ET
Its been a staple of one liners for me and my boys for a long time
- KINGKENZO


ditto. since high school in the 80s.

If you shoot me, you're liable to lose a lot of those humanitarian awards.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:32 AM ET
Anytime someone asks me about my nationality (which, if you knew my real last name, would be obvious), I always answer "Scotch Romainian".

Because it's just the right thing to do.

- johndewar


i do as well, because it's half true. the romanian part.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:35 AM ET
I hate to do this to you but im going to gave to pull rank on you. Im with the mattress police.
- KINGKENZO


the one thing that bugs me about that scene: why does fletch smoke when he enters the house. it's the only time he does that in the entire movie. it's just weird.

defenseless babies!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:40 AM ET
the one thing that bugs me about that scene: why does fletch smoke when he enters the house. it's the only time he does that in the entire movie. it's just weird.

defenseless babies!

- hammarby31

Probably trying to fit in with the clientele

-I commend him on his choice!
-...huh?
-I commend him on his choice...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:42 AM ET
Probably trying to fit in with the clientele

-I commend him on his choice!
-...huh?
-I commend him on his choice...

- Giroux_Is_God


so you're saying she moved out?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:44 AM ET
so you're saying she moved out?
- hammarby31

Around here, the GiG's ALWAYS say "Oh?! Well I have been misinFORMed"

....it's wedged between Colorado and Arizona...you've seen pictures
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:48 AM ET
Can I borrow your towel? My car just hit a water buffalo...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 2:03 AM ET
Around here, the GiG's ALWAYS say "Oh?! Well I have been misinFORMed"

....it's wedged between Colorado and Arizona...you've seen pictures

- Giroux_Is_God


utah? it's a wedge between wyoming and nevada. you've seen pictures.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 2:05 AM ET
i am neither trespassing, nor loitering. i have simply chosen an advisable location to await my client's delinquent husband.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:43 AM ET
utah? it's a wedge between wyoming and nevada. you've seen pictures.
- hammarby31

Ahhhhhhhhhh that's what he says there I thought I was wrong
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