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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:44 PM ET
2 games away from the cup in 2010

pretty decent for cheese cloth

- Marc D


The cheese cloth with that team was the third pairing and in goal.

Holmgren rides 2010 to a "promotion" meanwhile Laviolette was fired. Doesn't compute.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
The cheese cloth with that team was the third pairing and in goal.

Holmgren rides 2010 to a "promotion" meanwhile Laviolette was fired. Doesn't compute.

- PLindbergh31


Holmer did some good things (trades/drafting) and some not so good things (contracts/other trades). By promoting him, we keep his expertise while allowing Hexy to do a better job with the things he did not excel on.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:51 PM ET
Holmgren rides 2010 to a "promotion" meanwhile Laviolette was fired. Doesn't compute.
- PLindbergh31


Lavi lost the room; Homer lost the plot.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
Holmer did some good things (trades/drafting) and some not so good things (contracts/other trades). By promoting him, we keep his expertise while allowing Hexy to do a better job with the things he did not excel on.
- aflyerpower8


Lavy was fired because this team got off to a terrible start and it looked like the players weren't responding to him. Since the ownership would hardly stand by for another tank season, they shook it up, swapped Lavy with Berube, and the Flyers got in the playoffs with the 5th seed. Seeing as how this is a perennial playoff team and Homer kept things at the status quo (including a 2010 SC run), it's pretty clear to me why Lavy got the boot and Homer got the promotion.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:54 PM ET
Holmer did some good things (trades/drafting) and some not so good things (contracts/other trades). By promoting him, we keep his expertise while allowing Hexy to do a better job with the things he did not excel on.
- aflyerpower8


I'm a big Laviolette fan. I understand based on the way the team was performing, he had to be let go, but no one is going to convince me Berube is a better coach than PL. I don't think many people do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:55 PM ET
could be, wonder why they are waiting if it is Hall?
- Marc D



Hall might be exploring other options. Or he might not be talking about Hall.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:56 PM ET
Lavy was fired because this team got off to a terrible start and it looked like the players weren't responding to him. Since the ownership would hardly stand by for another tank season, they shook it up, swapped Lavy with Berube, and the Flyers got in the playoffs with the 5th seed. Seeing as how this is a perennial playoff team and Homer kept things at the status quo (including a 2010 SC run), it's pretty clear to me why Lavy got the boot and Homer got the promotion.
- steelydan


Meh, I guess it wasn't 5th seed, but if the Flyers had more points than Rangers, they'd had had home ice advantage over them. This new format still throws me off...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:57 PM ET
Lavi lost the room; Homer lost the plot.
- Tomahawk


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:57 PM ET
I'm a big Laviolette fan. I understand based on the way the team was performing, he had to be let go, but no one is going to convince me Berube is a better coach than PL. I don't think many people do.
- PLindbergh31


I was all for firing Laviolette, but I agree he's likely a better coach than Berube. Despite the rebound and making the playoffs, I'm not a huge fan of Berube. Perhaps with a year's experience and a full camp he'll be better and the one thing I did like about him is, he seemed to at least be trying to learn from mistakes.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 2:59 PM ET
I'm a big Laviolette fan. I understand based on the way the team was performing, he had to be let go, but no one is going to convince me Berube is a better coach than PL. I don't think many people do.
- PLindbergh31


I like Lavy too and think he is a great coach, but Berube brings some different elements. His focus on conditioning and accountability was a big help to the team last year.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
I was all for firing Laviolette, but I agree he's likely a better coach than Berube. Despite the rebound and making the playoffs, I'm not a huge fan of Berube. Perhaps with a year's experience and a full camp he'll be better and the one thing I did like about him is, he seemed to at least be trying to learn from mistakes.
- Jsaquella


Laviolette handled some things poorly. Mainly Bobrovsky. I still believe he's a very good coach. I would much rather have him coaching my team than Berube.

I think Berube is a good motivator, and I think the players respect him. X's and O's wise, jury is still out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
Laviolette handled some things poorly. Mainly Bobrovsky. I still believe he's a very good coach. I would much rather have him coaching my team than Berube.

I think Berube is a good motivator, and I think the players respect him. X's and O's wise, jury is still out.

- PLindbergh31


Berube wouldn't have been my choice, and I would have made the change soon after the shortened season. I didn't like the handling of Bobrovsky or Couturier & Schenn. Although he was better with others, like Gustafsson.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm a big Laviolette fan. I understand based on the way the team was performing, he had to be let go, but no one is going to convince me Berube is a better coach than PL. I don't think many people do.
- PLindbergh31



What did Laviolette do that made him irreplaceable?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
Laviolette handled some things poorly. Mainly Bobrovsky. I still believe he's a very good coach. I would much rather have him coaching my team than Berube.

I think Berube is a good motivator, and I think the players respect him. X's and O's wise, jury is still out.

- PLindbergh31



The jury was still out after Laviolette's first year as an NHL coach. And I like Berube's X's and O's better.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't know how you can say Berube won't be a good coach and Laviolette was great. Berube hasn't even had a training camp yet. Both have different systems and different ideas. Laviolette was good while here but he also had is own problems with the way he handled some things. Lets give Berube a chance before we say he is a failure or one is better then the other.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
What did Laviolette do that made him irreplaceable?
- J35Bacher


He doesn't get credit for taking a team with some glaring weaknesses to the SCF?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Jake will be dead of exhaustion by Christmas
- Marc D


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
Berube wouldn't have been my choice, and I would have made the change soon after the shortened season. I didn't like the handling of Bobrovsky or Couturier & Schenn. Although he was better with others, like Gustafsson.
- Jsaquella


Agreed. He turned the season around nicely. Have to be willing to give him a chance. He did some good things last year.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
He doesn't get credit for taking a team with some glaring weaknesses to the SCF?
- PLindbergh31


didnt the hockey news peg them that summer to go to the finals? That was a good team who went to the eastern conference finals twice without pronger. That year was his best year after that it was all down hill.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
He doesn't get credit for taking a team with some glaring weaknesses to the SCF?
- PLindbergh31



He gets credit but they didn't win it. I can give him credit for doing well but I can't say he is better then Berube without giving Berube a fair shot.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
You want Mason for 4.1 per or Bob at 5.65 on this team? Bob's good but at that salary on this team glad to have Mason.
- flyerfan28


mason's bigger, younger, plays bigger, and handles the puck better. i'm good with mason. not to mention the right hand catch is a little advantage i think.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
2 games away from the cup in 2010

pretty decent for cheese cloth

- Marc D


1 goal, and 1 game.

(frank)in' frack.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
didnt the hockey news peg them that summer to go to the finals? That was a good team who went to the eastern conference finals twice without pronger. That year was his best year after that it was all down hill.
- PhillaBully


They had a minor league goalie, and two dmen on the third pairing that had no business being in the NHL.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:26 PM ET
Tastes like Bernie Parent's jock.
- jmatchett383

so.....youve been on his boat
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
so.....youve been on his boat
- KINGKENZO


I'm glad that I walked away for 2 hours and this was the most recent reply.
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