booth still over paid at 1.5 mill.........have fun with this pylon

I think it's funny that some on here are making the comment like " I think we need another winger bc the Pens don't have a legit top 6".... Really? Did the Pens have a legit top 6 in 2009? NOPE!!!! I mean unless you really think Talbot and Fedotenko were legit top 6 I guess you make a valid point... Lets be honest Dupuis isn't anywhere NEAR A LEGIT TOP 6!!!! He just so happens to skate with Crosby. If Dupuis was a top 6 he wouldn't have been a B6 player for 75% of his NHL career.. And anyone suggesting that a 35 year old returning from ACL/MCL surgery will more than likely start on the top line is fooling themselves.. For one the Disco Dumb Dumb and his two good cops era is over in Pgh. Therefore, the days of having 87 tell them who is going to be on his line is also over!!!! With Tocchett being on this coaching staff and his love for Downie I would bet a mortgage payment that you will see Downie on the top line or at the very least on the 2nd line with Malkin. After listening to Downie's radio interview last week his knee is 100% healthy and his hearing issues that caused him to lose his hearing last season was corrected by surgery. This also forced him to have balance issues.. The only issue with this roster is where is glass wrist Bennett going to fit in.. #1 Kunitz, Crosby, Downie.....#2 Hornqvist, Malkin, Bennett ( although if they move Martin as expected this could be filled via trade)..... #3 Spaling, Sutter, Dupuis... #4 Comeau, Goc, Sill.... With Adams being the 13th forward or outright released bc only in this town is he still an NHL player even though he's absolutely terrible.. His role could be filled by someone like Payerl anyways. Adams' days of hanging out in the coaches office shooting the breeze while drinking coffee before practice are over.. Sure Neal was a problem in the dressing room with how he treated some of the players, but Adams snitching on players for everything and anything was also an issue.

I think it's funny that some on here are making the comment like " I think we need another winger bc the Pens don't have a legit top 6".... Really? Did the Pens have a legit top 6 in 2009? NOPE!!!! I mean unless you really think Talbot and Fedotenko were legit top 6 I guess you make a valid point... Lets be honest Dupuis isn't anywhere NEAR A LEGIT TOP 6!!!! He just so happens to skate with Crosby. If Dupuis was a top 6 he wouldn't have been a B6 player for 75% of his NHL career.. And anyone suggesting that a 35 year old returning from ACL/MCL surgery will more than likely start on the top line is fooling themselves.. For one the Disco Dumb Dumb and his two good cops era is over in Pgh. Therefore, the days of having 87 tell them who is going to be on his line is also over!!!! With Tocchett being on this coaching staff and his love for Downie I would bet a mortgage payment that you will see Downie on the top line or at the very least on the 2nd line with Malkin. After listening to Downie's radio interview last week his knee is 100% healthy and his hearing issues that caused him to lose his hearing last season was corrected by surgery. This also forced him to have balance issues.. The only issue with this roster is where is glass wrist Bennett going to fit in.. #1 Kunitz, Crosby, Downie.....#2 Hornqvist, Malkin, Bennett ( although if they move Martin as expected this could be filled via trade)..... #3 Spaling, Sutter, Dupuis... #4 Comeau, Goc, Sill.... With Adams being the 13th forward or outright released bc only in this town is he still an NHL player even though he's absolutely terrible.. His role could be filled by someone like Payerl anyways. Adams' days of hanging out in the coaches office shooting the breeze while drinking coffee before practice are over.. Sure Neal was a problem in the dressing room with how he treated some of the players, but Adams snitching on players for everything and anything was also an issue.
- PghBorn

I'm sure this is an excellent post but I didn't read it

I think it's funny that some on here are making the comment like " I think we need another winger bc the Pens don't have a legit top 6".... Really? Did the Pens have a legit top 6 in 2009? NOPE!!!! I mean unless you really think Talbot and Fedotenko were legit top 6 I guess you make a valid point... Lets be honest Dupuis isn't anywhere NEAR A LEGIT TOP 6!!!! He just so happens to skate with Crosby. If Dupuis was a top 6 he wouldn't have been a B6 player for 75% of his NHL career.. And anyone suggesting that a 35 year old returning from ACL/MCL surgery will more than likely start on the top line is fooling themselves.. For one the Disco Dumb Dumb and his two good cops era is over in Pgh. Therefore, the days of having 87 tell them who is going to be on his line is also over!!!! With Tocchett being on this coaching staff and his love for Downie I would bet a mortgage payment that you will see Downie on the top line or at the very least on the 2nd line with Malkin. After listening to Downie's radio interview last week his knee is 100% healthy and his hearing issues that caused him to lose his hearing last season was corrected by surgery. This also forced him to have balance issues.. The only issue with this roster is where is glass wrist Bennett going to fit in.. #1 Kunitz, Crosby, Downie.....#2 Hornqvist, Malkin, Bennett ( although if they move Martin as expected this could be filled via trade)..... #3 Spaling, Sutter, Dupuis... #4 Comeau, Goc, Sill.... With Adams being the 13th forward or outright released bc only in this town is he still an NHL player even though he's absolutely terrible.. His role could be filled by someone like Payerl anyways. Adams' days of hanging out in the coaches office shooting the breeze while drinking coffee before practice are over.. Sure Neal was a problem in the dressing room with how he treated some of the players, but Adams snitching on players for everything and anything was also an issue.
- PghBorn

Penguin High School? Seriously?

Evander Kane said today on Vancouver radio
"I'm a Jet for now, and we'll just go from there" in response to being asked if he wanted to remain in Winnipeg.

Alright everyone place your trades now!

Ill start the bidding with
Sutter
Pouliot (or whichever d prospect they like)
and a 1st

Evander Kane said today on Vancouver radio
"I'm a Jet for now, and we'll just go from there" in response to being asked if he wanted to remain in Winnipeg.

Alright everyone place your trades now!

Ill start the bidding with
Sutter
Pouliot (or whichever d prospect they like)
and a 1st
- stackthepads

I respect the fact that you understand the kind of package it would take to land him.

Evander Kane said today on Vancouver radio
"I'm a Jet for now, and we'll just go from there" in response to being asked if he wanted to remain in Winnipeg.

Alright everyone place your trades now!

Ill start the bidding with
Sutter
Pouliot (or whichever d prospect they like)
and a 1st
- stackthepads

It's very obvious he wants out.... Would love to see him in Pitt or even back in Vancouver(ie. Giants).
Hell, do that package and be done. I think that's fair value for both sides. For any trolls, obviously there would need to be some other cap movement.

For $1-$1.5 mil a year maybe... but he is a different dude... a VERY different dude.
- rival22

hasnt been the same since he got helicoptered by richards

I respect the fact that you understand the kind of package it would take to land him.
- Ryan_Wilson

The package is realistic of what it would take to obtain Kane, but another domino would have to fall to keep him in our cap structure. Scuderi or Martin would need to be move out with no salary back as well.

I respect the fact that you understand the kind of package it would take to land him.
- Ryan_Wilson

I'd make that trade and not even blink.

I respect the fact that you understand the kind of package it would take to land him.
- Ryan_Wilson

Scuderi, Adams and a 5th round pick.

I think it's funny that some on here are making the comment like " I think we need another winger bc the Pens don't have a legit top 6".... Really? Did the Pens have a legit top 6 in 2009? NOPE!!!! I mean unless you really think Talbot and Fedotenko were legit top 6 I guess you make a valid point... Lets be honest Dupuis isn't anywhere NEAR A LEGIT TOP 6!!!! He just so happens to skate with Crosby. If Dupuis was a top 6 he wouldn't have been a B6 player for 75% of his NHL career.. And anyone suggesting that a 35 year old returning from ACL/MCL surgery will more than likely start on the top line is fooling themselves.. For one the Disco Dumb Dumb and his two good cops era is over in Pgh. Therefore, the days of having 87 tell them who is going to be on his line is also over!!!! With Tocchett being on this coaching staff and his love for Downie I would bet a mortgage payment that you will see Downie on the top line or at the very least on the 2nd line with Malkin. After listening to Downie's radio interview last week his knee is 100% healthy and his hearing issues that caused him to lose his hearing last season was corrected by surgery. This also forced him to have balance issues.. The only issue with this roster is where is glass wrist Bennett going to fit in.. #1 Kunitz, Crosby, Downie.....#2 Hornqvist, Malkin, Bennett ( although if they move Martin as expected this could be filled via trade)..... #3 Spaling, Sutter, Dupuis... #4 Comeau, Goc, Sill.... With Adams being the 13th forward or outright released bc only in this town is he still an NHL player even though he's absolutely terrible.. His role could be filled by someone like Payerl anyways. Adams' days of hanging out in the coaches office shooting the breeze while drinking coffee before practice are over.. Sure Neal was a problem in the dressing room with how he treated some of the players, but Adams snitching on players for everything and anything was also an issue.
- PghBorn

Well for one that was one of my comments. In 2009 they also had a dominating third line. Excelled in a shut down role and provided a decent offensive spark. They had two relentless forecheckers and a great two way center. They were fast, mean, and guys hating playing them. We don't have that now and Sutter doesn't project to be what Staal was in that role. So you address the bottom six the best you can, which I believe they made strides with this offseason, and you fortify your top six. That is just my opinion.

Booth is done

He went up and down in the Canuck lineup playing with the Sedins then Kesler and also 3rd line duty

was terrible in all aspects

i'd take heatly, seto, ott, whitney, over booth.

Good call sir
- Not_Yan

I just think both had similar beginnings to their career with some real high points with the occasional dip, and then all of a sudden their production dips down. After a while they sky rocket down. In Booth's case it was an injury. In Seto's case it was poor centers. Give me a guy who could succeed by a simple upgrade in linemates over the guy who could never fully recover from an injury.

I'd make that trade and not even blink.
- dbell646

Yup and get the deal signed in blood.

I just think both had similar beginnings to their career with some real high points with the occasional dip, and then all of a sudden their production dips down. After a while they sky rocket down. In Booth's case it was an injury. In Seto's case it was poor centers. Give me a guy who could succeed by a simple upgrade in linemates over the guy who could never fully recover from an injury.
- Victoro311

Seto had poor centers because he didnt produce enough with the good centers to justify him staying with them. It isnt like he was playing with Thornton and was killing it and they said "screw that guy". He also played with Miko Koivu in Minnesota and wasn't any good.
He is a streaky player, he has momments where you think he is going to be great, but he just hasnt found a way to be a consistent contributor on any team he has played for.

Where would a guy like Booth, or Heatley/Seto for that matter justify getting even 1.5 million?

These guys are at the "Please, someone let me play the game" point in their career

1 year, 1 million is the most any of these guys should be sniffing at

Should become a new GM unwritten standard

Where would a guy like Booth, or Heatley/Seto for that matter justify getting even 1.5 million?

These guys are at the "Please, someone let me play the game" point in their career

1 year, 1 million is the most any of these guys should be sniffing at

Should become a new GM unwritten standard
- RoloTahmasee

I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Booth on a try out just like Kobasew? Absolutely.

Setoguchi would be cool for under $1.5M.

I an positive Kane will be a Penguin soon.

Sid will be having arthroscopic wrist surgery. He indeed was hurting during the playoffs which many suspected. At least he won't miss any time next season. Rehab didn't correct the problem.

http://www.post-gazette.c...gery/stories/201407090121

Booth?... What's the hunting like around Pittsburgh?

I respect the fact that you understand the kind of package it would take to land him.
- Ryan_Wilson

If only you could swap out Pouliot, and add Martin & Samuelsson.....I'd love a Sutter, 1st, Martin and Samuelsson for E. Kane and a 3rd/or prospect. That would be highway robbery for us...but I really think WPG would only accept a kings ransom..aka a more quality/less quantity type of trade :-(

On the cheap he could be a good signing. I just worry about how many swing line players we have. Very few legit top six players with more 3rd line guys with 2nd line potential.
Actually, as I say that it is still better than what we have dealt with in the past. I guess I shouldn't complain too much about the signings until I see Sutter's deal.
- usethe1-2-2

I really agree here. There is great value to having position flexibility and swing players. But we really need that top 6 guy. I know many here disagree but a legitimate top 6 wing puts us over the top. I hear Kapanen and Spaling will get good looks for top 6 in camp (per TIOPS)....simply not good enough, IMO.

Another guy I really like it Perron. Any idea what it would take to get him out of Edm? Using basically the same package as the proposed Kane deal....I traded Martin, Sutter, 1st (or Pouliot) for Perron. Not sure how realistic the trade is but I like this roster. Bottom 6 is pretty interchangeable....

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / David Perron ($3.813m)
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Steve Downie ($1.000m) / Nick Spaling ($2.200m) / Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m)
Blake Comeau ($0.700m) / Marcel Goc ($1.200m) / Jayson Megna ($0.874m)
Craig Adams ($0.700m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Simon Despres ($1.000m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m)
Scott Harrington ($0.589m) / Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) / Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Thomas Greiss ($1.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,976,625; BONUSES: $375,833
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,023,375