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DMChi2010
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:15 PM ET
I think if you could trade Sharp for a player like Bjugstad now, you need to jump all over it.

If its something like Sharp for picks and prospects at 18 or 19 still marinading, I would wait until next year as well

- FourFeathers773


Rights to Hayes and Versteeg/Roszival for a 6th-round pick. DONE! Get rid of the other one, too, by unloading him to a team trying to reach the cap floor. DONE! Sign Brookbank for $1M.

If the cap does go up to $76M for 2015-16, then ice a 4th line for $2.3M (Regin types & wingers). Give Saad $3.5M, Kruger $1.6M, let Oduya/Leddy go, keep Brookbank and hope Johns/Dahlbeck (or both) are ready. Do the math and…the Hawks get to keep Sharp.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
Rights to Hayes and Versteeg/Roszival for a 6th-round pick. DONE! Get rid of the other one, too, by unloading him to a team trying to reach the cap floor. DONE! Sign Brookbank for $1M.

If the cap does go up to $76M for 2015-16, then ice a 4th line for $2.3M (Regin types & wingers). Give Saad $3.5M, Kruger $1.6M, let Oduya/Leddy go, keep Brookbank and hope Johns/Dahlbeck (or both) are ready. Do the math and…the Hawks get to keep Sharp.

- DMChi2010


If the Hawks do not sign him (Hayes) they get a compensatory 2nd round pick next year (54 overall).
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
[quote=fvineze]

Remember - even if you only get a low draft pick back - still have to replace him - so you only net about $1.5 in cap savings.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:20 PM ET
Rights to Hayes and Versteeg/Roszival for a 6th-round pick. DONE! Get rid of the other one, too, by unloading him to a team trying to reach the cap floor. DONE! Sign Brookbank for $1M.

If the cap does go up to $76M for 2015-16, then ice a 4th line for $2.3M (Regin types & wingers). Give Saad $3.5M, Kruger $1.6M, let Oduya/Leddy go, keep Brookbank and hope Johns/Dahlbeck (or both) are ready. Do the math and…the Hawks get to keep Sharp.

- DMChi2010


Right to Hayes. I am assuming a joke there.... Just in case, though, I'll point out that the Hawks will get a second round pick if he doesn't sign here by mid-August. So I suspect those valuable rights will stay with the Hawks for the duration.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:21 PM ET
Right to Hayes. I am assuming a joke there.... Just in case, though, I'll point out that the Hawks will get a second round pick if he doesn't sign here by mid-August. So I suspect those valuable rights will stay with the Hawks for the duration.
- mohel


edit - HawkintheD is just too quick on the draw (I read that on the internet ).
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:21 PM ET
If the Hawks do not sign him (Hayes) they get a compensatory 2nd round pick next year (54 overall).
- HawkintheD


I don't have the energy to give back on the "rights to Hayes" trades.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
edit - HawkintheD is just too quick on the draw (I read that on the internet ).
- mohel


It's all true on the internet Mo!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:24 PM ET
I don't have the energy to give back on the "rights to Hayes" trades.
- StLBravesFan


I felt I owed Burgie for posting a comment about them earlier. I'm trying to help him maintain his sanity.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:25 PM ET
My point is audition time for young players shouldn't be in April/May.
Q had the pedal to the floor from Oct and the Hawks never really ever took control of the Division.

He needs to change as JJ said may not have a choice.
Coach like Babcock and Sutter...Use the regular season to work out kinks and to give kids time to learn...Not when the stakes and pressure is the highest.

- Al



Yeah I'm beginning to think regular season is very overrated. Especially in the west were you have 6-7 very even teams.

SnapitUpstairs
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CHICAGO, IL
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:29 PM ET
My point is audition time for young players shouldn't be in April/May.
Q had the pedal to the floor from Oct and the Hawks never really ever took control of the Division.

He needs to change as JJ said may not have a choice.
Coach like Babcock and Sutter...Use the regular season to work out kinks and to give kids time to learn...Not when the stakes and pressure is the highest.

- Al


>Yep, to that -- the point of the regular season -- if you are a solid team -- is to get ready for the playoffs
>Thought Q really missed the mark with Morin this year -- in limited action he had the highest Corsi rating of all Hawk players -- ice tilted toward the other team when he was on
>Interesting comments by Stan Bowman at MIT's Hockey Analytics Conference: "The Blackhawks have their own analytics system -- we won't get into what it is specifically comprised of -- but one of the things it does for us is to help eliminate bias." (I believe that to mean coaching bias.)
>Find it interesting that Q's buddy lasted 1 year as goalie coach and another buddy is leaving, too
>The margin between winning and losing is very thin in the Western Conference
>And a head coach today needs the best support he can get to win
>Think Q has total control of the "lineup card", practices, and game plans but the "Goodship Blackhawk" is now giving him lots of input
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
Toews and Kane should change their numbers to $$
RobitailleFAN20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA Kings fan since 1996. Favorite palyers Luc Robitaille & Rob Blake, CA
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
Yeah I'm beginning to think regular season is very overrated. Especially in the west were you have 6-7 very even teams.
- SteveRain

Kings proved this in 2012.

Duck fans still don't understand that the division means nothing they rave and throw massive parties for a division title.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:32 PM ET
Toews and Kane should change their numbers to $$
- kneughter


Good one.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
Kings proved this in 2012.

Duck fans still don't understand that the division means nothing they rave and throw massive parties for a division title.

- RobitailleFAN20


And this year two teams that finished third in their divisions met in the WCF. No need to talk about what happened there.......
RobitailleFAN20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA Kings fan since 1996. Favorite palyers Luc Robitaille & Rob Blake, CA
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
And this year two teams that finished third in their divisions met in the WCF. No need to talk about what happened there.......
- mohel

Yeah no kidding.

I keep forgetting hawks didn't win division.

But yeah divisions are just that. A REGULAR SEASON ACCOMPLISHMENT
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
Kings proved this in 2012.

Duck fans still don't understand that the division means nothing they rave and throw massive parties for a division title.

- RobitailleFAN20


Yeah I'm done having melt downs to bad losses in November.

All I care in about is last 25 games and health of roster.

Central is going to be a meat grinder. 2 rounds of hell. Pacific is you and Anaheim. All you want to do is avoid a wild card central team in round 1.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
My point is audition time for young players shouldn't be in April/May.
Q had the pedal to the floor from Oct and the Hawks never really ever took control of the Division.

He needs to change as JJ said may not have a choice.
Coach like Babcock and Sutter...Use the regular season to work out kinks and to give kids time to learn...Not when the stakes and pressure is the highest.

- Al


Amen
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:37 PM ET
Good one.
- mohel


Is he even allowed to post? Shouldn't he be in a room with whaler rockie original jets Nordiques north stars fans? Island of misfit fans?
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:39 PM ET
I felt I owed Burgie for posting a comment about them earlier. I'm trying to help him maintain his sanity.
- HawkintheD


(Deep breaths)
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:39 PM ET
i read that Tallon is looking for a "goal scorer" in a trade for "assets"...Sharp+ for any of their young centers....Huberdeau, Bjugstad, Barkov+...
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:40 PM ET
Yeah no kidding.

I keep forgetting hawks didn't win division.

But yeah divisions are just that. A REGULAR SEASON ACCOMPLISHMENT

- RobitailleFAN20


To be fair, I think it means more to teams that haven't proven a ton yet in the playoffs. The Kings and the Hawks know what they can do and it is certainly less important to them.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:40 PM ET
Yeah I'm done having melt downs to bad losses in November.

All I care in about is last 25 games and health of roster.

Central is going to be a meat grinder. 2 rounds of hell. Pacific is you and Anaheim. All you want to do is avoid a wild card central team in round 1.

- SteveRain


Agree. I think we will see wayyyy more maintenance days for guys like Hossa this year. I think he played in 70 games last year. Between he and Richards, I bet they get quite a few games off
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:40 PM ET
I know I know I know



Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr 20m

On #Habs #Blackhawks trade talks: Sharp still center piece, but Plekanec no longer involved. CHI trying to shed salary. Tinordi discussed.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:41 PM ET
Is he even allowed to post? Shouldn't he be in a room with whaler rockie original jets Nordiques north stars fans? Island of misfit fans?
- SteveRain


I think this joint qualifies as the Island of Misfits, eh?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:42 PM ET
I know I know I know



Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr 20m

On #Habs #Blackhawks trade talks: Sharp still center piece, but Plekanec no longer involved. CHI trying to shed salary. Tinordi discussed.

- mrpaulish


Wasn't it established that this source is a dope?
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