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CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
I will take it...

@FriedgeHNIC: AAV for both is 10.5

- DarthKane


Well, there goes our depth the next couple years.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
10.5 mil cap hits.. Kaplan had it right after all. Good for him.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 56s
8 year extensions for Kane and Toews. $10.5 mil aav each.



.5 wayyy too much !

1.5 too much to compete

Welcome to Pittsburgh
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
10.5 mil cap hits.. Kaplan had it right after all. Good for him.
- golfbard




He is an bumholeee but he is dialed in to the Hawks and Cubs .


Ever seen him on the 200 leve l ??

What a runt ! LOL
ChicagoDave
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 5s

8 year extensions for Kane and Toews. $10.5 mil aav each.

- hawkshossa81



soo.....is JJ packing Sharp's bags or is Al?
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
I'm happy they'll both be back for the long term, but $21M in cap hit between them? Stan will REALLY be hitting the dumpsters after next season.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 56s
8 year extensions for Kane and Toews. $10.5 mil aav each.



.5 wayyy too much !

1.5 too much to compete

Welcome to Pittsburgh

- mrpaulish



unfortunately
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
I dont care if they were in line with projections or guesses

so much for the "Kane and Toews need to take less to stay competitive"

This is hardly a deal or hometown discount for the blackhawks
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 30s

Extensions kick in starting in 2015-16, when cap should be $75-million. $10.5-million on that cap is like $7-million on a $50-million cap.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
Hell Yes Id make that trade. However the $ would not work
- mrpaulish



Thanks... Why would you????
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 1m

Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane are now the highest-paid players in NHL history. #Blackhawks
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 56s
8 year extensions for Kane and Toews. $10.5 mil aav each.



.5 wayyy too much !

1.5 too much to compete

Welcome to Pittsburgh

- mrpaulish


Have to agree. I'm guessing by the next draft, Sharp and Oduya are toast. Downgrading our D even more than it will be since Rosie turned to mush is not good. I would hope that it's Bickell instead, but I tend to doubt it.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Oh and a BIG CONGRATS for getting both deals done!!!
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'm happy they'll both be back for the long term, but $21M in cap hit between them? Stan will REALLY be hitting the dumpsters after next season.
- Q...argh


Not that the team can't afford it, but I imagine the signing bonuses are going to be huge as well. Sabres signed Moulson to a 25M contract, 11 of which was bonus.

Toews + Kane at that % would be in the neighborhood of $70 million upfront.
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590 2m

After Toews and Kane signings, the Blackhawks will have $65.8 committed on their cap to 15 players for 2015-16. Wow.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'm happy they'll both be back for the long term, but $21M in cap hit between them? Stan will REALLY be hitting the dumpsters after next season.
- Q...argh




Before we supre freak out the Cap hits don't take effect till this year .

Still want to know who is on the way out now. Gotta shed 3m


AL's been calling it : This week will be some Hawks news .

Yesterday Kompon gone
Today Kane and Toews signed
Tomorrow : Someone gets shipped out ??
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590 2m

After Toews and Kane signings, the Blackhawks will have $65.8 committed on their cap to 15 players for 2015-16. Wow.

- hawkshossa81


And dont forget Saad needs a new deal next year as well
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Oh and a BIG CONGRATS for getting both deals done!!!
- Ur Not Me


thanks always liked the Islander
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
jon greenberg ‏@jon_greenberg 1m

Toews and Kane now making that 2011 Ben Gordon money.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 30s

Extensions kick in starting in 2015-16, when cap should be $75-million. $10.5-million on that cap is like $7-million on a $50-million cap.

- hawkshossa81


Weak comparison by him...when was the league last at a 50 million cap? and how many players were making 7M at that point?
hawkshossa81
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m

That year, Brad Richards's contract was 16% of the cap. These Toews/Kane ones will be roughly 14% when they begin.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
LOL


The Blackhawks personally helped grow that franchise and their ugly jerseys when someone forgot to cover #68 ....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYdOcVE72s

- mrpaulish



EVERY good franchise has had a period of rapid growth in the fanbase due to a winning team...the Crosby/Malkin generation of fans would epitomize the term "bandwagoner" and to continue hearing "every Hawk fan just jumped on the bandgwagon" is truly frustrating given that they are an original 6 team and have had success for decades prior to the early 2000s... it just is a way to try and belittle the fanbase and the city as a whole and Im not going to take that crap from a Penguins fan that would gladly drink from Crosbys used jockstrap
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
David Alter ‏@DavidAlter590 2m

After Toews and Kane signings, the Blackhawks will have $65.8 committed on their cap to 15 players for 2015-16. Wow.

- hawkshossa81


Aaand after you remove Sharp's 5.9 cap hit.....and Oduya's 3.3....that makes it 56mil to 13 players....bring on the Hogs! Danault....Teravainen....McNeil....or trade for some lower line guys etc...Dahlbeck, Johns, and maybe they trade for another Rozy veteran type at a lower cap hit
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
And dont forget Saad needs a new deal next year as well
- hawkshossa81


As well as Leddy and Kruger.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
Thanks... Why would you????
- Ur Not Me



Evander Kane is 22 years old ? And a bad ass power forward. I know he is a turd but so was Kane at 22. Eveander Kane shot the puck on goal 260+ times last year , something the Hawks sorely need even with the addition of Richards is to get the puck to the net and see what happens. EKane puts pressure on opposing D behind their own net. EKane could do very well around the leadership of Toews.

TT is 165 lbs soaking wet.


But again , the $ wouldn't work for the Hawks .
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