LA dumped him after they won the Cup, I think.
- StLBravesFan

You are correct....Kompon was on 2 consecutive SC winning staffs.

Kings and Hawks

Was Oates a good pp coach BEFORE he had Ovechkin slapping one-timers in on an almost nightly basis?
- BlazinMike

He actually did quite well with New Jersey before going to the Caps.

Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus...

http://www.csnchicago.com...eaving-blackhawks-job-whl

GET ADAM OATES STAT!!!
- DK002

...and by Turkey day you'll likely be calling for his dismissal due to the marginal PP.

That said...hiring Oates would be fine by me. Give him a try since there's little to lose.

I doubt Adam Oates is the answer. First, does anyone really think Q would let someone change the power play scheme? Two, Oates was a horrible coach with the Caps. He was insisting on playing 4th line guys with Ovechkin, benching star players, just a total mess. I know he wouldn't be in charge of any of that here but it leads to some real questions about his maturity as a coach. He ripped players publicly as well late in the year. Seems to be a total jackazz.
- Hemingways

Sure, why not? Why would think he wouldn't change?

That would be HEAD coach...assistant's don't have nearly the responsibility and Oates would NOT be making matchup decisions. And he wouldn't be in front of the microphone after games...that's Q's gig.

Sure, why not? Why would think he wouldn't change?

That would be HEAD coach...assistant's don't have nearly the responsibility and Oates would NOT be making matchup decisions. And he wouldn't be in front of the microphone after games...that's Q's gig.
- ArlingtonRob

It seems to me this is same PP scheme we've run every year Q has been here, regardless of who the assistants are. Some years we're more productive than others, but it's the same perimeter passing game while waiting for a quality shot. I doubt any assistant can come in and blow that up for another style. That's not Q's MO.

I'd love to see people consistently stand in front of the net while we take more frequent shots.

>The Hawks PP needs a coach who is obsessed with scoring on the PP
>A coach who studies PP schemes of the most successful PPs worldwide -- and at every level
>A coach who develops his own innovative formations -- and has the Hawk ECHL and AHL teams try them in game situations to confirm their effectivness before the Hawks use them
>A coach who has the stones to choose players based on how he wants the PP to work, not based on their pecking order on the team
>A coach the players respect for his high offensive IQ

>The Hawks PP needs a coach who is obsessed with scoring on the PP
>A coach who studies PP schemes of the most successful PPs worldwide -- and at every level
>A coach who develops his own innovative formations -- and has the Hawk ECHL and AHL teams try them in game situations to confirm their effectivness before the Hawks use them
>A coach who has the stones to choose players based on how he wants the PP to work, not based on their pecking order on the team
>A coach the players respect for his high offensive IQ
- SnapitUpstairs

And a coach that demands that players move their feet on the PP and whomever doesn't sits and watches.

It seems to me this is same PP scheme we've run every year Q has been here, regardless of who the assistants are. Some years we're more productive than others, but it's the same perimeter passing game while waiting for a quality shot. I doubt any assistant can come in and blow that up for another style. That's not Q's MO.

I'd love to see people consistently stand in front of the net while we take more frequent shots.
- Hemingways

So you're one of the crowd who thinks Quenneville would rather lose then be proven wrong?

Did it ever occur to you the hawks play the power play style based on personnel. The hawks are built on skill players and defenders who's skill is passing not shooting. I'm sure if the hawks had a couple of big shots from the point and huge wingers they would play that style of power play.

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?

And a coach that demands that players move their feet on the PP and whomever doesn't sits and watches.
- RickJ

>Yes, indeed
>And, we could add, a coach who holds players accountable for poor puck management decisions and zone kills
>And, a coach who understands the importance of "puck tempo" on the PP

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

He also outperformed the alleged 'best player' in the NHL in the last two Olympics.

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

Where's the red font?

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

Depends on what the market is I guess but if you base what he does solely on point production it's kind of missing the point of what he brings to the table.

On your second question, no they wouldn't win without him.

Question to you. Would you rather have a guy that racks up the most points in the regular season or a guy who has been consistently a finalist for the Selke?

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

As you can attest, regular season scoring titles don't always lead to post-season glory, eh?

And Chicago would not be capable of winning it all without him. They didn't win it all this year with him.

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

Yes he is worth it for EVERYTHING he does at an elite level including but not limited to: face-offs, defense, PK, PP, playmaking & finishing abilty (0.90 career PPG), leadership...just the total package

He also outperformed the alleged 'best player' in the NHL in the last two Olympics.
- paulr

What does that have to do with either one of the questions I asked? Is a player who never has scored 80 points in a season and his team won the Cup with him scoring 1 goal in that teams first 20 playoff games worth 10.8 million a year?

Toews is the drink, Kane is the straw. Paulr is the pot stirrer.

It all comes down the AAV...

...what's the final cap hit gonna be.
- ArlingtonRob

I thought I read a report they are looking for 76 for 8yrs comes out to 9.5 I could be wrong.

I just want them to sign so I can see what they really get so I can try and guesstimate Kopitars next contract lol

What does that have to do with either one of the questions I asked? Is a player who never has scored 80 points in a season and his team won the Cup with him scoring 1 goal in that teams first 20 playoff games worth 10.8 million a year?
- stevens87

TROLL!!! DIRTY TROLL I TELL YA!!!

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

dont forget 2 stanley cups, conn smythe trophy, selke trophy, and career +141 .


trying to belittle jonathan toews is a fast way to find yourself hurting in Chicagoland

Toews has never scored more than 76 points in a season, in 2013 thru their first 20 playoff games (Game 3 of the SC finals) he had one goal, yet the Hawks still won the Cup, my two questions are:

Is a career high 76 point player worth 10.8M a year and isn't Chicago capable of winning it all without him?
- stevens87

If I had to choose, I would keep Toews for sure.

As mentioned before maybe they should trade Kane to a bottom 3 team next year at a chance to get McDavid. That would be a win win for both teams IMO but a big gamble.

It seems to me this is same PP scheme we've run every year Q has been here, regardless of who the assistants are. Some years we're more productive than others, but it's the same perimeter passing game while waiting for a quality shot. I doubt any assistant can come in and blow that up for another style. That's not Q's MO.

I'd love to see people consistently stand in front of the net while we take more frequent shots.
- Hemingways

I guess my point is...if Q won't change, then Q is the problem. So blaming Kompon, or whomever the assistant coach is, seems misplaced.

I'll stick with pointing the finger at the guys on the ice for most PP failures.

I do agree that guys in front of the net with consistency would be a good thing...

...and fix the zone entries which are maddeningly awful at times.

dont forget 2 stanley cups, conn smythe trophy, selke trophy, and career +141 .


trying to belittle jonathan toews is a fast way to find yourself hurting in Chicagoland
- EnzoD

He has also won a lot of those award because he has been on a very good and balanced team. Do you think Chicago going forward will have a balanced team if $21.6 in cap space is going to two guys?

What does that have to do with either one of the questions I asked? Is a player who never has scored 80 points in a season and his team won the Cup with him scoring 1 goal in that teams first 20 playoff games worth 10.8 million a year?
- stevens87

It means I think Toews is worth being one of, if not the, highest paid players in the league. Personally there isn't one player I'd want the Hawks to trade for him. Including the regular season dynamo, Cry Baby Sid.

Toews is the drink, Kane is the straw. Paulr is the pot stirrer.
- HawkintheD

I resemble that remark.